Acura or Lexus

George The Curious

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Thinking of either Acura RDX or Lexus RX350. Strictly in terms of resale value and depreciation. Which one has lower depreciation?
 

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RX350. I have an 2005 RX330 and its one of the smoothest rides ever. Plus if you're getting a fairly new one they come packed with a lot of goodies. In terms of resale value Lexus because it is at the top end of quality has better resale value especially if you take good care of the vehicle. If you compare the luxury brands of all three Japanese makers, Lexus tops the list with Infinity at second and Acura at third because they are superior in quality and performance.
 

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I have a 2006 Acura, 130,000+ miles. It is a sweet ride, never a problem.
 

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Thinking of either Acura RDX or Lexus RX350. Strictly in terms of resale value and depreciation. Which one has lower depreciation?
I'm also currently in the market to replace my SUV and have been doing my research. Did you mean Acura MDX? Otherwise you are comparing apples to oranges. A new RDX lists at mid-40s typically equipped and is considered a compact sporty SUV. A RX350 lists at early/mid 60s typically equipped and is considered a mid-sized luxury SUV.

The newer RDXs hold their value well and often tops most lists for resale in it's segment ( http://www.autotrader.com/best-cars/top-luxury-cars-with-the-best-resale-value-227637, http://www.autofocus.ca/news-events...ck-book-awards-highlight-vehicle-depreciation ).

Don't look at depreciation as percentages only - equate it to dollars. Example: Assume the RDX is worth 52% at 4 years and the RX350 57%. On the RDX you lost $21600 and on the RX350 you lost $27950. The exact percentages dependent on equipment, mileage, etc. In general, among the Japanese luxury brands, Lexus holds it's value the best and have the fewest problems according to what I've learned so far. Both do well in safety and crash testing. Lexus has a higher overall cost of ownership.

Interestingly, Infiniti has the lowest brand loyalty of all the luxury brands. Meaning an existing owner is less likely to buy another Infiniti. I've read the various article stating this, but am not clear why this is happening. Infiniti tends towards sporty cars, perhaps as the owners get older they lean more towards luxury? I've always like the QX70.
 

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Interestingly, Infiniti has the lowest brand loyalty of all the luxury brands. Meaning an existing owner is less likely to buy another Infiniti. I've read the various article stating this, but am not clear why this is happening. Infiniti tends towards sporty cars, perhaps as the owners get older they lean more towards luxury? I've always like the QX70.
As an Infiniti Owner, I can answer that....

Shit performance.

I own a G37x. It's a piece of shit and I'll never buy another Infiniti again. I love the styling, it doesn't LOOK like an old man's car (like a Lexus does), but it sure performs like an old man's car. It's a turd when it comes to responsiveness. In a nutshell, the transmission in the thing (the 7 speed automatic) is a piece of junk. It lags, it hesitates very badly, it upshifts too soon causing the car to bog out, and it simply is unresponsive. JATCO (Japanese Automatic Transmission Company) has no fucking clue how to build an automatic transmission for a luxury sport sedan. No fucking clue whatsoever. Put your foot to the floor in a straight line, it fucks off very nicely. But if you are cruising and you want to accelerate and you give it a moderate demand for acceleration, it bogs out. Especially bad in the city. So you are left with one option when you want to accelerate and have the car actually respond - hammer it. Then you will almost pile into the car in front of you, so you have to hammer on the brakes. In short, you have to drive like an asshole. Likewise, if you are cruising, you hit the brakes, then go back on the gas, the car just sits there for about a second before it accelerates.

I bought this load new and I complained about until I was blue in the face. No-one and I mean no-one at Infiniti gives a fuck. They all know they have a dog on their hands, but they don't care. I've rented Chevy Malibus that are more responsive than my Infiniti. If Infiniti was smart, they would simply buy transmissions from ZF or General Motors (believe it or not, I'm convinced that the one thing that the General knows how to make is automatic transmissions), but since they pretty much own JATCO, they stick to JATCO.
 

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To the OP, if you were talking an MDX by Acura, then I would say the MDX.

But RDX vs. Lexus RX350, then the Lexus.
 

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How about 2016 /17 Audi Q7.
After extensive research, Audi are unreliable, and depreciates after than either Acura or Lexus. If you have money to burn, buy Audi Bmw Mercedes, but they depreciates after than Japanese due to long term reliability issues.
Oh, Audi is also the least safe luxury brand.
 

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I'm also currently in the market to replace my SUV and have been doing my research. Did you mean Acura MDX? Otherwise you are comparing apples to oranges. A new RDX lists at mid-40s typically equipped and is considered a compact sporty SUV. A RX350 lists at early/mid 60s typically equipped and is considered a mid-sized luxury SUV.

The newer RDXs hold their value well and often tops most lists for resale in it's segment ( http://www.autotrader.com/best-cars/top-luxury-cars-with-the-best-resale-value-227637, http://www.autofocus.ca/news-events...ck-book-awards-highlight-vehicle-depreciation ).

Don't look at depreciation as percentages only - equate it to dollars. Example: Assume the RDX is worth 52% at 4 years and the RX350 57%. On the RDX you lost $21600 and on the RX350 you lost $27950. The exact percentages dependent on equipment, mileage, etc. In general, among the Japanese luxury brands, Lexus holds it's value the best and have the fewest problems according to what I've learned so far. Both do well in safety and crash testing. Lexus has a higher overall cost of ownership.

Interestingly, Infiniti has the lowest brand loyalty of all the luxury brands. Meaning an existing owner is less likely to buy another Infiniti. I've read the various article stating this, but am not clear why this is happening. Infiniti tends towards sporty cars, perhaps as the owners get older they lean more towards luxury? I've always like the QX70.
I agree. I am leaning towards RDX still, because of cost of ownership is significantly lower. I don't care for MDX because of 3rd row seats, which I will never use. Lexus RX350 is big, but only two row seats which I like.
 

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Subaru Outback
All Outback 2.5i engines breaks at 100,000 km, Just because it's Japanese doesn't make it reliable. From all my research, still only Honda and Toyota excel at reliability department. Mazda is week with Transmission, and Subaru is just poor quality overall - especially cheap interior, except for safety and AWD. Nissan is just bad handling, and also bad transmission.
 

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After extensive research, Audi are unreliable, and depreciates after than either Acura or Lexus. If you have money to burn, buy Audi Bmw Mercedes, but they depreciates after than Japanese due to long term reliability issues.
Oh, Audi is also the least safe luxury brand.
You have more info and done the research. I came across this Consumer Reports video for 2915/16 Reliable Car Brands recently before you posted your question here. As expected Lexus/ Toyota are tops. But Audi didn't fare too badly (surprised me). Acura came in rather poorly ( more surprise).

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/...eliable-car-brands/17512520001/4565804421001/
 

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The current crop of Toyota /Lexus are among the best cars ever built and subsequently should stand the test time and have the highest resale value in the future. However, current research on customers satisfaction today doesn't necessarily mean satisfaction tomorrow.
 

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Subaru Outback
Outback is a great car but isn't really competition for a Lexus. Outback competes with (and beats) highlander or rav4. Lexus is a luxury car at a different price point, and is an amazing value at its higher price, just as an outback is amazing value at its more modest price.
 

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All Outback 2.5i engines breaks at 100,000 km, Just because it's Japanese doesn't make it reliable. From all my research, still only Honda and Toyota excel at reliability department. Mazda is week with Transmission, and Subaru is just poor quality overall - especially cheap interior, except for safety and AWD. Nissan is just bad handling, and also bad transmission.
Subaru makes Toyota Camrys, so you may want to rethink your notion that there is a quality difference.

Toyota is the largest investor in Subaru, and the Subaru factory in Lafayette that makes outback and legacy also makes Toyota Camry (though only for another year then it will make Imprezas).
 

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The current crop of Toyota /Lexus are among the best cars ever built and subsequently should stand the test time and have the highest resale value in the future. However, current research on customers satisfaction today doesn't necessarily mean satisfaction tomorrow.
True. They're also better with maintenance charges. Not overcharging their customers with maintenance and parts.
Mazda's and BMW's are overkill on maintenance and ordering parts.
 

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You have more info and done the research. I came across this Consumer Reports video for 2915/16 Reliable Car Brands recently before you posted your question here. As expected Lexus/ Toyota are tops. But Audi didn't fare too badly (surprised me). Acura came in rather poorly ( more surprise).

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/...eliable-car-brands/17512520001/4565804421001/
Interesting, thanks.

I would seem tha transmission woes are the most common complaint, with CVT transmission being the worst of the worst.
 

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Personally, I am not a fan of the new oragami look of the Lexus brand. Although they seem to be toning it down. Of the two vehicles I would prefer the Acura. As far as resale value goes, even if the Acura retains less of its value at trade in time it will not be a huge difference. Get what you like. For those people that say Acura cars are less reliable than Lexus, I say you have to look at the big picture. How do they stack up when you put all luxury cars into the mix, how do they stack up against Cadillac and Lincoln?

In the Olympics the difference between first and 4th. place can be a fraction of a second, but no medal if you came in 4th.
 

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Lexus is still and will forever be the leader, with Acura & Infiniti playing catch up.

Went with a Lexus last year after dumping my Infiniti and I have no regrets. Amazing quality, ride and fit & finish.

Acura is comatose as a brand these days. You seldom see any on the streets, and when I was at a dealership last year I could've named my price as they were giving them away.
 
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