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How does the new law affect people who barter with sex workers?

Cobra Enorme

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Im in the industry (photographer) and usually the ladies suggest sex instead of payment. can i go to jail now if i accept?
 

tegR

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Hmm interesting.

Instinctively I want to say, Yes. Consideration is exchanged for sex, so unlawful.

From a fine technical point, it might be argued that you provided the photography service pro bono and the sex just happened after the fact. If the provision of your professional services was done without prior discussed compensation, and without any expectation of (sexual) compensation, then its kind of grey if you actually obtained sexual services for consideration.
 

bobcat40

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This is actually a funny scenario. The test would be whether or not you the rendering of your photography services was contingent on the provision of sexual services. I would say that is probably true as no one would want to do their photography work for free (Or maybe you would :D)
 

tegR

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This is actually a funny scenario. The test would be whether or not you the rendering of your photography services was contingent on the provision of sexual services. I would say that is probably true as no one would want to do their photography work for free (Or maybe you would :D)
I'd argue I volunteered the take the pictures so I could build a professional collection/portfolio. That I simply appreciate the nude female form as an artistic subject. The model's willingness to work with me is all the compensation I need :)
 

Lamour Amour

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The law reads "material benefit", not cash or currency. So yes, you would be off to jail just as if you had taken cash.
 

MadonnaLove

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this just irks me cause its so hard to find a photographer that is professional and that doesn't want sex in exchange for payment !
 

Celticman

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Im in the industry (photographer) and usually the ladies suggest sex instead of payment. can i go to jail now if i accept?
You would deserve jail if the pics turn out bad :)
 

nottyboi

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this just irks me cause its so hard to find a photographer that is professional and that doesn't want sex in exchange for payment !
Based on what you charge for sex, is the trade better or worse from a $$ point of view.
 

MadonnaLove

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Based on what you charge for sex, is the trade better or worse from a $$ point of view.
well when i was new a photographer offered me dozens of pro pics and he requested that i give him an over night in return. The pro pics were like 1500 to 2000 worth and my time is 160 to 250 hour(depending on area ). So you do the math
 

DB123

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well when i was new a photographer offered me dozens of pro pics and he requested that i give him an over night in return. The pro pics were like 1500 to 2000 worth and my time is 160 to 250 hour(depending on area ). So you do the math
Ok...and not to play devils advocate bc while likely tempting it's very unprofessional to make an other like that, but overnight rates are never hourly rate times number of hours. Again, unprofessional of the photographer to suggest but $2000 for an overnight doesn't seem so out of whack.
 

MadonnaLove

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Ok...and not to play devils advocate bc while likely tempting it's very unprofessional to make an other like that, but overnight rates are never hourly rate times number of hours. Again, unprofessional of the photographer to suggest but $2000 for an overnight doesn't seem so out of whack.
Sorry what i left out …….is that he said we wouldn't be sleeping that night lol
 

Cobra Enorme

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to clarify, i want to get paid, i show up expecting to get $200 for the 2 hour shoot. Its them that want to offer sex instead of paying. I dont show up asking for that. Im open to that of course if thats what they want to do.
 

MattRoxx

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I don't see how law enforcement would find out about your deal.

Such a shame that so many people will allow Harper and MacKay to turn rational adults into paranoid alleged criminals.
 
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thirdcup

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this just irks me cause its so hard to find a photographer that is professional and that doesn't want sex in exchange for payment !
I understand. The photo in the footer of your post doesn't have a head. And according you what you tell us, that's where your money maker is.
At least the guy could have included your head. I mean, now how do we even know this is you?
I think it's time you hired a female photographer.
 

Smallcock

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this just irks me cause its so hard to find a photographer that is professional and that doesn't want sex in exchange for payment !
According to the OP, it is the SP that suggests sex instead of payment.
 

oldjones

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There's the nub, I'd say. If there was 'consideration' whether monetary or in kind, then there would be 'income', which must be reported and taxed. That's what makes the sex acts come under C36.

However, people—even professional photgraphers—do take pictures that others ask them to with no expectation of payment, and people—even prostitutes—do have sex without expectation of payment. If that's what happened, then clearly neither the CRA nor the Crown Prosecutor has any business with you.

Given the professions involved their burden of proof would seem somewhat easier than your task of reminding the judge/jury of the reasonable doubt and that you could be just good friends doing friendly favours. But it's interesting to consider if she was an actor and made the same offer, or if you always charged everyone, no exceptions, but not her because she was your wife. GF …?

Like almost all the hypotheticals, it can be read—and can go—either way until a definitive Court decision dictates the way such cases get decided from then on. Laws that criminalize ordinary matters such as these and yet can go either way are stupid and abominable. But they get votes.

Good luck.
 
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