I'm talking about women in general who identify as feminists, at least ones I know - most aren't part of lobby groups or involved in campaigning. And the majority (probably all) are against objectifying women, definitely not anti-sex. There certainly are those who are strongly opposed to porn and the sex industry, but you can't lump all feminists into that category. And regardless, the PCs aren't looking to appease any of them.
Would this be the true Motivation behind C36
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Whether a woman is a feminist or not, I think the majority who are not involved in the sex industry, are for prostitution.
So except for abolitionist feminists, I suppose Harper doesn't care about the rest of them, but I think it's safe bet that he's appeasing more women.
Most women are against men seeing prostitutes, but most women vote against the Conservatives and that won't change with the new law.
This is one of the motivations
http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/09/24/the-largest-expansion-of-prison-building-since-the-1930s/
This nation is going to start moving towards a "for profit" prison system like the U.S has.They need to fill these prisons so they can build more prisons.Don't believe me?Bookmark this and we'll talk again in 3 years on this subject.2 gods are pushing this legislation.Religion and money.
Profit from where?
Seizing legitimate assets of prisoners to pay for their room and board?
If I am correct there are two groups of feminists. The first group that supports women's rights, equality for women, etc. etc. that legitimately speaks for the women of Canada and is made up of intelligent fair minded women. Then there is the anti-male feminist groups who are fighting for women's superiority over the male population and will not be happy until they destroy ALL male / female relationships. It is this group that makes up the rescue parasites and this group that the Harper Conservatives are catering to.
It costs over 100 grand to house a prisoner per year.Up 46% from a decade ago.
http://www.edmontonsun.com/2014/03/18/federal-inmate-cost-soars-to-177gs-each-per-year
Dozens of services involved.That money is paid to someone.Google "US for profit prisons" and do some research.The biggest example for it was probably the "kids for cash" case
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kids_for_cash_scandal
C36 is motivated first by Harper government as a tool to express a Policy philosophy towards their Supporters ( Those giving Big Money to run Campaigns to get The Conservative party re-elected ) As for this and any Profiteering ...... Prisions for Profit etc ..... This only continues if ordinary Canadian Citizens continue to vote these corrupt Politicians into Office.
While there's probably some truth in sunny's suggestion, I think it's too extreme to account for C36 all by itself. It's only a minorly significant—and entirely understandable and predictable—that rescue organizations would belive there was a problem to rescue people from, and that legislation that further marginalized that problem would fit their agenda.
But blaming them for the law would be like blaming Narcotics Anonymous for the drug laws. Or doctors for keeping us living unhealthily so we'll have illnesses they can 'cure'. It would be as sensible to blame AA for keeping alcohol legal in order to keep its membership high. But oops! that's the opposite model.
But blaming them for the law would be like blaming Narcotics Anonymous for the drug laws. Or doctors for keeping us living unhealthily so we'll have illnesses they can 'cure'. It would be as sensible to blame AA for keeping alcohol legal in order to keep its membership high. But oops! that's the opposite model.
Just as there are many definitions of what it means to be Christian, there are many forms of feminism.
The pro-C36 type of feminism is usually referred to as abolitionist, prohibitionist, or carceral feminism. Melissa Farley and Julie Bindel fall into this category.
Very much the opposite of the sex positive feminism I identify with.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/16/feminism-poll_n_3094917.html
Only one-fifth of Americans identify as feminists, according to a new HuffPost/YouGov poll. But the vast majority fit the basic definition of the word.
According to the survey, just 20 percent of Americans -- including 23 percent of women and 16 percent of men -- consider themselves feminists. Another 8 percent consider themselves anti-feminists, while 63 percent said they are neither.
Only one-fifth of Americans identify as feminists, according to a new HuffPost/YouGov poll. But the vast majority fit the basic definition of the word.
According to the survey, just 20 percent of Americans -- including 23 percent of women and 16 percent of men -- consider themselves feminists. Another 8 percent consider themselves anti-feminists, while 63 percent said they are neither.
I really think you need to understand that feminism doesn't mean man-hater. It simply means you want equality for all. Most men and women are feminists but that word in itself has been given a bad connotation.
You are still thinking of feminism in "Al Bundy" terms, which is essentially just the cultural backlash after second wave feminism happened. Feminism really is not a bad thing and in fact feminism is equality for men as well. Men have it shitty too and feminism recognizes the unfair treatment that men feel in today's society. I would hope most women and men alike would consider them feminists. To me, feminism has given me the right to sexual liberation and to be in this awesome industry.
Anyone who tells me they hate feminism ... im sorry you are cock blocking yourselves.
Lisbeth, is right, we should strike the word feminism and use a different term, when referring to the women who want to abolish the sex trade.
I for one, am seeing a few women who are feminists, and who believe in their rights. They have character, which I find quite attractive, and the sex is just as good, even overwhelming sometimes.
Totally! Feminists are the ones who reclaimed the word slut and made it a positive thing.. and come on now.. who doesn't love sluts! They are AWESOME and FUN!Lisbeth, is right, we should strike the word feminism and use a different term, when referring to the women who want to abolish the sex trade.
I for one, am seeing a few women who are feminists, and who believe in their rights. They have character, which I find quite attractive, and the sex is just as good, even overwhelming sometimes.
Totally this.
It's not as black and white as that, not nearly.
And this.
Feminists are human beings, and thus vary in their views and opinions. While there are undoubtedly some who are negative about men, I don't think most are. It's a shame that people so often have to take a binary view: "this thing is about X, it must be anti Y"; "feminists are criticizing the societal views some people hold, I am similar to those people, therefore feminists are criticizing *me*".Lisbeth, is right, we should strike the word feminism and use a different term, when referring to the women who want to abolish the sex trade.
I for one, am seeing a few women who are feminists, and who believe in their rights. They have character, which I find quite attractive, and the sex is just as good, even overwhelming sometimes.
It's not as black and white as that, not nearly.
Do you must mean privatization of prison systems? Are the taxpayers still going to pay? The profit is to the prison owners, and hopefully, the taxpayers save on efficiencies?
