Interesting dismissal at the CBC.......

AK-47

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Ghomeshi's facebook post:

https://twitter.com/jianghomeshi

https://www.facebook.com/jianghomeshi/posts/10152357063881750

Dear everyone,

I am writing today because I want you to be the first to know some news.

This has been the hardest time of my life. I am reeling from the loss of my father. I am in deep personal pain and worried about my mom. And now my world has been rocked by so much more.

Today, I was fired from the CBC.

For almost 8 years I have been the host of a show I co-created on CBC called Q. It has been my pride and joy. My fantastic team on Q are super-talented and have helped build something beautiful.

I have always operated on the principle of doing my best to maintain a dignity and a commitment to openness and truth, both on and off the air. I have conducted major interviews, supported Canadian talent, and spoken out loudly in my audio essays about ideas, issues, and my love for this country. All of that is available for anyone to hear or watch. I have known, of course, that not everyone always agrees with my opinions or my style, but I've never been anything but honest. I have doggedly defended the CBC and embraced public broadcasting. This is a brand I’ve been honoured to help grow.

All this has now changed.

Today I was fired from the company where I've been working for almost 14 years – stripped from my show, barred from the building and separated from my colleagues. I was given the choice to walk away quietly and to publicly suggest that this was my decision. But I am not going to do that. Because that would be untrue. Because I’ve been fired. And because I've done nothing wrong.

I’ve been fired from the CBC because of the risk of my private sex life being made public as a result of a campaign of false allegations pursued by a jilted ex girlfriend and a freelance writer.

As friends and family of mine, you are owed the truth.

I have commenced legal proceedings against the CBC, what’s important to me is that you know what happened and why.

Forgive me if what follows may be shocking to some.

I have always been interested in a variety of activities in the bedroom but I only participate in sexual practices that are mutually agreed upon, consensual, and exciting for both partners.

About two years ago I started seeing a woman in her late 20s. Our relationship was affectionate, casual and passionate. We saw each other on and off over the period of a year and began engaging in adventurous forms of sex that included role-play, dominance and submission. We discussed our interests at length before engaging in rough sex (forms of BDSM). We talked about using safe words and regularly checked in with each other about our comfort levels. She encouraged our role-play and often was the initiator. We joked about our relations being like a mild form of Fifty Shades of Grey or a story from Lynn Coady's Giller-Prize winning book last year. I don’t wish to get into any more detail because it is truly not anyone's business what two consenting adults do. I have never discussed my private life before. Sexual preferences are a human right.

Despite a strong connection between us it became clear to me that our on-and-off dating was unlikely to grow into a larger relationship and I ended things in the beginning of this year. She was upset by this and sent me messages indicating her disappointment that I would not commit to more, and her anger that I was seeing others.

After this, in the early spring there began a campaign of harassment, vengeance and demonization against me that would lead to months of anxiety.

It came to light that a woman had begun anonymously reaching out to people that I had dated (via Facebook) to tell them she had been a victim of abusive relations with me. In other words, someone was reframing what had been an ongoing consensual relationship as something nefarious. I learned – through one of my friends who got in contact with this person – that someone had rifled through my phone on one occasion and taken down the names of any woman I had seemed to have been dating in recent years. This person had begun methodically contacting them to try to build a story against me. Increasingly, female friends and ex-girlfriends of mine told me about these attempts to smear me.

Someone also began colluding with a freelance writer who was known not to be a fan of mine and, together, they set out to try to find corroborators to build a case to defame me. She found some sympathetic ears by painting herself as a victim and turned this into a campaign. The writer boldly started contacting my friends, acquaintances and even work colleagues – all of whom came to me to tell me this was happening and all of whom recognized it as a trumped up way to attack me and undermine my reputation. Everyone contacted would ask the same question, if I had engaged in non-consensual behavior why was the place to address this the media?

The writer tried to peddle the story and, at one point, a major Canadian media publication did due diligence but never printed a story. One assumes they recognized these attempts to recast my sexual behaviour were fabrications. Still, the spectre of mud being flung onto the Internet where online outrage can demonize someone before facts can refute false allegations has been what I've had to live with.

And this leads us to today and this moment. I’ve lived with the threat that this stuff would be thrown out there to defame me. And I would sue. But it would do the reputational damage to me it was intended to do (the ex has even tried to contact me to say that she now wishes to refute any of these categorically untrue allegations). But with me bringing it to light, in the coming days you will prospectively hear about how I engage in all kinds of unsavoury aggressive acts in the bedroom. And the implication may be made that this happens non-consensually. And that will be a lie. But it will be salacious gossip in a world driven by a hunger for "scandal". And there will be those who choose to believe it and to hate me or to laugh at me. And there will be an attempt to pile on. And there will be the claim that there are a few women involved (those who colluded with my ex) in an attempt to show a "pattern of behaviour". And it will be based in lies but damage will be done. But I am telling you this story in the hopes that the truth will, finally, conquer all.

I have been open with the CBC about this since these categorically untrue allegations ramped up. I have never believed it was anyone's business what I do in my private affairs but I wanted my bosses to be aware that this attempt to smear me was out there. CBC has been part of the team of friends and lawyers assembled to deal with this for months. On Thursday I voluntarily showed evidence that everything I have done has been consensual. I did this in good faith and because I know, as I have always known, that I have nothing to hide. This when the CBC decided to fire me.

CBC execs confirmed that the information provided showed that there was consent. In fact, they later said to me and my team that there is no question in their minds that there has always been consent. They said they’re not concerned about the legal side. But then they said that this type of sexual behavior was unbecoming of a prominent host on the CBC. They said that I was being dismissed for "the risk of the perception that may come from a story that could come out." To recap, I am being fired in my prime from the show I love and built and threw myself into for years because of what I do in my private life.

Let me be the first to say that my tastes in the bedroom may not be palatable to some folks. They may be strange, enticing, weird, normal, or outright offensive to others. We all have our secret life. But that is my private life. That is my personal life. And no one, and certainly no employer, should have dominion over what people do consensually in their private life.

And so, with no formal allegations, no formal complaints, no complaints, not one, to the HR department at the CBC (they told us they’d done a thorough check and were satisfied), and no charges, I have lost my job based on a campaign of vengeance. Two weeks after the death of my beautiful father I have been fired from the CBC because of what I do in my private life.

I have loved the CBC. The Q team are the best group of people in the land. My colleagues and producers and on-air talent at the CBC are unparalleled in being some of the best in the business. I have always tried to be a good soldier and do a good job for my country. I am still in shock. But I am telling this story to you so the truth is heard. And to bring an end to the nightmare
 

Celticman

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It will be interesting to see if/where/when he will be hired again. Perhaps he can go to work for Susan G. Cole at Now magazine. They gave him a media award in 2013. Although it might be short term once C-36 comes into effect if their ad revenue dries up.
 

nobody123

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I've never listened to him, but after listening to this, I suspect he was a free thinker and looked at things from all sides,
which maybe didn't coincide with CBC's politics..
I wish him well !!!
Jesus Christ. The enemy of your enemy is not always your friend. He was about as far from a free thinker as you can get, for fucks sakes. And as if the ceeb was on a witch-hunt for those not toeing whatever misconception you have about what their party line is. Wouldn't Rex Murphey be first in line? Wouldn't they do more Noam Chomsky on "Ideas" and less motherfucking "Moses Znaimer presents annoying fucking business people who think they have a philosophy"?

FYI, Gomeshi was a milquetoast dullard, and about as lukewarm political correct an on-air personna as you could possibly imagine. Times a hundred. A starfucker with a raging ego hiding under a (very thin) veneer of "gee gosh" humility. As much as I hate for anyone to be an actual victim of sexual harassment (that's what this is about, by the by. In case it wasxn't fecking obvious to all), I am so glad to see this irksome fucktard off the air. About fucking time.
 

benstt

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This will be interesting - personal life crossing over into job space. I've often questioned the ability of companies to censure staff for legal activities off the clock. Seems to happen in the US all the time.

Btw, i can take his show in small doses, but not the music-backed monologue at the beginning. Has me reaching for the off button every time. Doesn't seem to get we're there to listen to guests, not him.
 

explorerzip

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I'm wondering if CBC could use Jian's Facebook post for anything? If I were him, I'd keep my mouth shut until the lawyers are finished with each other. It sounds like he wants his old job back, but why?! Why go back to work for an organization that fires its employees for something that happened outside of work between adults? Then again, he might have breached some hidden CBC ethical code of conduct.
 

Scarey

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Transgender consensual sexual relations?We applaud you for the courage to be yourself in our Multicultural society
Gay consensual sexual relations? We applaud you for the courage to be yourself in our Multicultural society
Interracial consensual sexual relations? We applaud you for the courage to be yourself in our Multicultural society
Alternative lifestyle sexual relations? We here at the CBC/PC Headquarters think your f'in dirty.....dirty..dirty..dirty....and we couldn't possibly have you here anymore....and the evangelical wing of our party is coming for your devil wiener.

Jesus
 

Viggo Rasmussen

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I never liked Ghomeshi, but I fully support his fight. :thumb:

If people can get fired for having consensual sex in their private home then most people on here are in the same boat.
 

james t kirk

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After reading this article,

http://www.xojane.com/#!/it-happened-to-me/non-date

I can not be sure who to believe.
The guy made a pass that failed at a woman who wasn't interested.

Happens every minute of every day, it's not a crime.

Granted, he should have read her signals better and dropped it, but being a dumb ass when it comes to women is nothing unusual.

He was too old for her anyway.

Frankly, she comes across as thinking she is a princess. She should have simply told him she wasn't interested instead of hoping he would go away
 

nobody123

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I'm starting to get a real sinking feeling about this. At first it was all Schadenjoy (TM. Mine, all mine!) at him getting his comeuppance. Then I remembered that the CBC shitcanned Sook Yin Lee for a while because she had the audacity to do a nudie scene in a movie. The CBC is run by prudes and morons, and God help us, Ghomeshi might be right about this one. Which means we'll never hear the end of the smug prick.
 

fuji

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It's not surprising that everyone on terb thinks Ghomeshi is somehow the victim here. The bitter divorced guys and the jilted guys are all coming out of the woodwork.
 

fuji

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The guy made a pass that failed at a woman who wasn't interested.
The allegation is that he grabbed her ass. That is more than just making a pass at her. The CBC actually look worse than Ghomeshi in that instance though because she did file a complaint and the result was that SHE was asked what she could do to make things less toxic, whereas they should have reprimanded Ghomeshi. That is totally on the CBC if that's the case.

The physical aggression towards women that he claims is all consensual looks pretty bad for him. Three different women telling the same story versus his word -- it does not look good. If it was one woman versus his word that would be something else, but three, all saying the same thing, all just a conspiracy out to get him?

Who knows if his lawyers can get him out of this but it's clear he's got serious issues with aggression towards women. Where by serious I mean if their allegations are ever proved true in a court he goes to jail.
 

LuxeLadyAmber

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Looks like the CBC is trying to hold itself to some "higher" standard than the City! Am not sure how having particular sexual proclivities can be grounds for dismissal, yet the (outgoing) Mayor of TO has clearly done far worse...
 

Scarey

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The guy made a pass that failed at a woman who wasn't interested.

Happens every minute of every day, it's not a crime.

Granted, he should have read her signals better and dropped it, but being a dumb ass when it comes to women is nothing unusual.

He was too old for her anyway.

Frankly, she comes across as thinking she is a princess. She should have simply told him she wasn't interested instead of hoping he would go away
I actually don't think she wanted him to go away.She wanted him to set her up with some future networking contacts......and then go away.She blogged about it.......instead of reporting it.What he did was wrong but her handling of the whole situation brings out very little sympathy in me
 

Scarey

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It's not surprising that everyone on terb thinks Ghomeshi is somehow the victim here. The bitter divorced guys and the jilted guys are all coming out of the woodwork.
That carries a tremendous amount of weight from the resident self proclaimed womanizing slimeball......lol....jesus.If he's guilty he deserves to lose his job.If he's not i hope he sues the CBC, this reporter, and the person who started all this for the shirts on their backs.
 
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