George Galloway 'beaten over Israel comments'

[groggy]

Groggy if you think people can't read the context of that phrasefor themselves you are STUPID. It has nothing to do with any plan to put Palestinians in a concentration camp, it was a facetious reference to Gaza being overcrowded, the speaker desiring to give them MORE LAND.

In particular it was a generous offer from Israel to give up land to Egypt in exchange for Egypt giving the Sinai to the Palestinians.

Are you against the Palestinians getting more land?

You must have a degenerative brain disease, you get stupider and stupider.

Why is it that every plan that comes up with the word's 'concentration camp' in it gets your approval?
Pattern?

 

[fuji]

My plan is to expose you as a liar every time you lie, yes. If you don't like being exposed as a liar then don't lie.

Neither Feiglin nor this guy have made any proposal to put Palestinians in a concentration camp. Feiglin proposed refugee camps to protect them, Eiland proposed providing them with a lot more land to alleviate overcrowding.

You are just a lying sack of shit, nothing you post is true and in this case your lie is exposed just by reading the stuff you yourself posted, which makes you a STUPID liar, you aren't even smart about lying.

 

[groggy]

My plan is to expose you as a liar every time you lie, yes. If you don't like being exposed as a liar then don't lie.

Neither Feiglin nor this guy have made any proposal to put Palestinians in a concentration camp. Feiglin proposed refugee camps to protect them, Eiland proposed providing them with a lot more land to alleviate overcrowding.

You are just a lying sack of shit, nothing you post is true and in this case your lie is exposed just by reading the stuff you yourself posted, which makes you a STUPID liar, you aren't even smart about lying.

The international media described Feiglin's plan as 'concentration camps'. That is my source and the reason I continually refer to it as such.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-annihilation-fighting-forces-supporters.html
Its perfectly reasonable to continue to characterize his heinous plan as 'concentration camps'.

What is shocking is that you continue to defend this plan.

 

[fuji]

The daily mail is a secondary source, and one proved wrong by looking at the primary source. But you know this, you have already given us your definition is concentration camp and it turned it his proposal want even remotely close to that.

After losing the debate on the primary source you cannot go running back to I inaccurate secondary sources.

Particularly as since then he had appeared in othery media and confirmed that he is talking about a refugee camp.

As we have discussed this in detail you already know this, which means you ate just a lying sack of shit repeating things you already know are false.

 

[groggy]

The daily mail is a secondary source, and one proved wrong by looking at the primary source. But you know this, you have already given us your definition is concentration camp and it turned it his proposal want even remotely close to that.

After losing the debate on the primary source you cannot go running back to I inaccurate secondary sources.

Particularly as since then he had appeared in othery media and confirmed that he is talking about a refugee camp.

As we have discussed this in detail you already know this, which means you ate just a lying sack of shit repeating things you already know are false.

Just because Feiglin calls his plan for concentration camps 'paradise camps' doesn't make them so. I thought you knew a bit about history here.
Really, I don't care what Feiglin called it, the dailymail and Blitzer both could see through that, and so should you.
The definition of concentration camps fits the usage, as we clearly established earlier.

And here are Feiglin's words

“designate certain open areas on the Sinai border, adjacent to the sea, in which the civilian population will be concentrated, far from the built-up areas that are used for launches and tunneling. In these areas, tent encampments will be established”

Concentrated encampments?

More words from Feiglin:

“Gaza is part of our Land and we will remain there forever,” Feiglin concludes. “Subsequent to the elimination of terror from Gaza, it will become part of sovereign Israel and will be populated by Jews. This will also serve to ease the housing crisis in Israel.”

The question remains, why do you support a plan for concentration camps?

 

[fuji]

Just because Feiglin calls his plan for concentration camps 'paradise camps' doesn't make them so

And just because the daily mail wrongly called them concentration camps CERTAINLY doesn't make it so. More to the point you yourself provided a definition of concentration camp, and it was immediately obvious that Feiglin's didn't match it, not even close.

An objective look at his accrual proposal clearly shows that they are refugee camps next to ensure humane treatment of civilians during a time of war.

So you are just blatantly lying now, just like you tried to claim I support harming children. You are a pathetic, lying sack of shit.

 

[groggy]

And just because the daily mail wrongly called them concentration camps CERTAINLY doesn't make it so. More to the point you yourself provided a definition of concentration camp, and it was immediately obvious that Feiglin's didn't match it, not even close.

An objective look at his accrual proposal clearly shows that they are refugee camps next to ensure humane treatment of civilians during a time of war.

So you are just blatantly lying now, just like you tried to claim I support harming children. You are a pathetic, lying sack of shit.

Again.
Here are Feiglin's words

“designate certain open areas on the Sinai border, adjacent to the sea, in which the civilian population will be concentrated, far from the built-up areas that are used for launches and tunneling. In these areas, tent encampments will be established”

Would it make you happier to use his exact words and call it a concentrated camp or concentration encampment or even concentrated encampment?
Does that go down a bit better and keep the bile from rising even a bit?

And again, here's the definition.

The term concentration camp refers to a camp in which people are detained or confined, usually under harsh conditions and without regard to legal norms of arrest and imprisonment that are acceptable in a constitutional democracy.

Yup, that sounds like Feiglin's plan, move them against their will, against law and force them to live without services in the desert.


Why are you still supporting this call for concentration camps?

 

[fuji]

His words don't describe a concentration camp, not in any sense related to Nazi Germany's. You are just lying. Summer camps concentrate kids in a wooded area, are you going to start calling summer camps concentration camps too?

You are a pathetic lying sack of shit.

 

[groggy]

His words don't describe a concentration camp, not in any sense related to Nazi Germany's. You are just lying. Summer camps concentrate kids in a wooded area, are you going to start calling summer camps concentration camps too?

You are a pathetic lying sack of shit.

Again.
Here are Feiglin's words

“designate certain open areas on the Sinai border, adjacent to the sea, in which the civilian population will be concentrated, far from the built-up areas that are used for launches and tunneling. In these areas, tent encampments will be established”

And again, here's the definition.

The term concentration camp refers to a camp in which people are detained or confined, usually under harsh conditions and without regard to legal norms of arrest and imprisonment that are acceptable in a constitutional democracy.

Yup, that sounds like Feiglin's plan, move them against their will, against law and force them to live without services in the desert.


Why are you still supporting this call for concentration camps?

 

[fuji]

He never said anything about moving people against their will, denying them services, detaining them, confining them, nothing about harsh conditions, nothing about holding people, arresting anyone, let alone against the law.

You are obviously lying. He is talking about a refugee camp, you lying sack of shit.

 

[groggy]

He never said anything about moving people against their will, denying them services, detaining them, confining them, nothing about harsh conditions, nothing about holding people, arresting anyone, let alone against the law.

You are obviously lying. He is talking about a refugee camp, you lying sack of shit.

Again.
Here are Feiglin's words

“designate certain open areas on the Sinai border, adjacent to the sea, in which the civilian population will be concentrated, far from the built-up areas that are used for launches and tunneling. In these areas, tent encampments will be established”

And again, here's the definition.

The term concentration camp refers to a camp in which people are detained or confined, usually under harsh conditions and without regard to legal norms of arrest and imprisonment that are acceptable in a constitutional democracy.

Yup, that sounds like Feiglin's plan, move them against their will, against law and force them to live without services in the desert.


Why are you still supporting this call for concentration camps?

 

[fuji]

So you are just lying, nothing in the words you quoted match. Nothing in his words about detaining people, nothing about them being there against their will you lied.

Which is expected, you are just a lying sack of shit, you are NEVER honest.

 

[groggy]

So you are just lying, nothing in the words you quoted match. Nothing in his words about detaining people, nothing about them being there against their will you lied.

Which is expected, you are just a lying sack of shit, you are NEVER honest.

Here are Feiglin's words again.
Take it up with him.

“designate certain open areas on the Sinai border, adjacent to the sea, in which the civilian population will be concentrated, far from the built-up areas that are used for launches and tunneling. In these areas, tent encampments will be established”

And again, here's the definition.

The term concentration camp refers to a camp in which people are detained or confined, usually under harsh conditions and without regard to legal norms of arrest and imprisonment that are acceptable in a constitutional democracy.

Yup, that sounds like Feiglin's plan, move them against their will, against law and force them to live without services in the desert.


Why are you still supporting this call for concentration camps?

 

[fuji]

Keep cutting and pasting your spam post, troll, everyone can see that his words don't contain any of the things from your definition.

You are a fucking idiot. Your own post refutes you and proved you are not only a liar, but a STUPID liar.

Nothing in his words about detaining people, etc.

 

[groggy]

Keep cutting and pasting your spam post, troll, everyone can see that his words don't contain any of the things from your definition.

You are a fucking idiot. Your own post refutes you and proved you are not only a liar, but a STUPID liar.

Nothing in his words about detaining people, etc.

Yes he did.

in which the civilian population will be concentrated,

How do you think he's going to 'concentrate them' in those encampments?



Why are you still supporting this call for concentration camps?

 

[fuji]

Groggy, look up the word "concentrated" in your Farsi/English dictionary. It does not mean arrested, detained, there against their will, etc., it means that they would be brought together in a smaller area, he says so that they can be kept safe during fighting.

So you just lost the debate and it turns our you were stupidly illiterate. He said nothing about detaining or arresting people, bringing them against their will, or anything else like that.

 

[groggy]

Groggy, look up the word "concentrated" in your Farsi/English dictionary. It does not mean arrested, detained, there against their will, etc., it means that they would be brought together in a smaller area, he says so that they can be kept safe during fighting.

So you just lost the debate and it turns our you were stupidly illiterate. He said nothing about detaining or arresting people, bringing them against their will, or anything else like that.

Feiglin planned to bomb gaza into dust, moving every person who didn't resist or get ethnically cleansed into the concentration camps.
Did you think that all of Gaza would volunteer to go live in tents in the desert?

“designate certain open areas on the Sinai border, adjacent to the sea, in which the civilian population will be concentrated, far from the built-up areas that are used for launches and tunneling. In these areas, tent encampments will be established”

And again, here's the definition.

The term concentration camp refers to a camp in which people are detained or confined, usually under harsh conditions and without regard to legal norms of arrest and imprisonment that are acceptable in a constitutional democracy.

Yup, that sounds like Feiglin's plan, move them against their will, against law and force them to live without services in the desert.


Why are you still supporting this call for concentration camps?

 

[fuji]

Yup, that sounds like Feiglin's plan, move them against their will, against law and force them to live without services in the desert.

He never said anything like that. You made it up. Stop lying.

 

[groggy]

He never said anything like that. You made it up. Stop lying.

Sure he did, let me repost his words, in case you missed them the last time, including a bit more of his plan.

(2) Defining the tasks

Conquest of the entire Gaza Strip, and annihilation of all fighting forces and their supporters.

(3) Defining the strategic goal:

To turn Gaza into Jaffa, a flourishing Israeli city with a minimum number of hostile civilians.

(4) Defining war ethics: “Woe to the evildoer, and woe to his neighbor”

In light of these four points, Israel must do the following:

a) The IDF [Israeli army] shall designate certain open areas on the Sinai border, adjacent to the sea, in which the civilian population will be concentrated, far from the built-up areas that are used for launches and tunneling. In these areas, tent encampments will be established, until relevant emigration destinations are determined.

The supply of electricity and water to the formerly populated areas will be disconnected.

b) The formerly populated areas will be shelled with maximum fire power. The entire civilian and military infrastructure of Hamas, its means of communication and of logistics, will be destroyed entirely, down to their foundations.

c) The IDF will divide the Gaza Strip laterally and crosswise, significantly expand the corridors, occupy commanding positions, and exterminate nests of resistance, in the event that any should remain.

And again, here's the definition.

The term concentration camp refers to a camp in which people are detained or confined, usually under harsh conditions and without regard to legal norms of arrest and imprisonment that are acceptable in a constitutional democracy.

Yup, that sounds like Feiglin's plan, move them against their will, against law and force them to live without services in the desert.


Why are you still supporting this call for concentration camps?

 

[fuji]

Are you illiterate?

Nowhere does he talk about any of the things in your definition. Are you so stupid that you are lying about quotes you have actually posted here?????

He does not say move them against their will or deny them services???!!!! You are lying.

He certainly talks a lot about annihilating Hamas, but that is a good thing. Hamas should be annihilated. The civilians he proposes will be safe in refugee camps.