Obamacare isn't Too Expensive, Cancel your Cable says POTUS

[onthebottom]

Not sure how this is going to go over with the base..

http://youtu.be/ijQIJAK0NFA

 

[oldjones]

Whether they like it or not, there's no argument with the rationale: Cable TV is discretionary spending for entertainment. Over the air is still absolutely free.

 

[danmand]

Good advice. Get rid of the internet connection also.

 

[blackrock13]

Good advice. Get rid of the internet connection also.

There are internet cafes all over the place, what's your point.

 

[rld]

Actually is anyone took the time to watch the video you would see that President Obama does not say what OTB says he did. The title is simply bullshit.

Watch the video, its short and worth it. His response is reasoned, thoughtful and quite honest. Quality statements from a quality man.

Don't believe the hype of the title. It is flatly inaccurate.

 

[Lovehobby]

As Sen Saunders points out and he voted for Obamacare, only full medicare makes rational economic sense. All the nations with single payer state medicare have better health outcomes than USA less than 1/2 the cost.

 

[blackrock13]

Actually is anyone took the time to watch the video you would see that President Obama does not say what OTB says he did. The title is simply bullshit.

Watch the video, its short and worth it. His response is reasoned, thoughtful and quite honest. Quality statements from a quality man.

Don't believe the hype of the title. It is flatly inaccurate.

SOP for OTB.

 

[BottomsUp]

Actually is anyone took the time to watch the video you would see that President Obama does not say what OTB says he did. The title is simply bullshit.

Watch the video, its short and worth it. His response is reasoned, thoughtful and quite honest. Quality statements from a quality man.

Don't believe the hype of the title. It is flatly inaccurate.

You've got to be kidding! The message was crystal clear. There's nothing Obama would like better than to have people stop watching Fox, the only network that routinely exposes and calls him out on all his lies.

 

[rld]

You've got to be kidding! The message was crystal clear. There's nothing Obama would like better than to have people stop watching Fox, the only network that routinely exposes and calls him out on all his lies.

At which point in the video did he tell people to cancel their cable?

 

[Lovehobby]

You've got to be kidding! The message was crystal clear. There's nothing Obama would like better than to have people stop watching Fox, the only network that routinely exposes and calls him out on all his lies.

It is FOX that is all lies all the time.

 

[BottomsUp]

At which point in the video did he tell people to cancel their cable?

Are you really that stupid? Why did he even bring cable up then? What the hell do you think he means?

 

[BottomsUp]

It is FOX that is all lies all the time.

Guess you didn't watch O'Reilly work him over on the Super Bowl interview. Made him look like the liar and fool that he is. Obama can't get out of the way of his own bullshit. Pity, you're too blind to see it.

 

[blackrock13]

Guess you didn't watch O'Reilly work him over on the Super Bowl interview. Made him look like the liar and fool that he is. Obama can't get out of the way of his own bullshit. Pity, you're too blind to see it.

I guess we missed that too, just like Obama saying, 'cancel you cable'.

 

[Lovehobby]

Guess you didn't watch O'Reilly work him over on the Super Bowl interview. Made him look like the liar and fool that he is. Obama can't get out of the way of his own bullshit. Pity, you're too blind to see it.

ORielly is a total flaming asshole.

 

[Lovehobby]

Guess you didn't watch O'Reilly work him over on the Super Bowl interview. Made him look like the liar and fool that he is. Obama can't get out of the way of his own bullshit. Pity, you're too blind to see it.

Elected twice. Go figure. My problem he is too right wing.

 

[MattRoxx]

Americans are so backwards about some things. From the LA Times:

Watch an expert teach a smug U.S. senator about Canadian healthcare

A U.S. politician's I-don't-need-no-stinkin'-facts approach to health policy ran smack into some of those troublesome facts Tuesday at a Senate hearing on single-payer healthcare, as it's practiced in Canada and several other countries.
The countries in question have successful and popular government-sponsored single-payer systems, provide universal coverage and match or outdo the United States on numerous measures of medical outcomes -- for far less money than the U.S. spends. To explain this, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) asked seven experts to testify before his subcommittee on primary health and aging.
Those interested in how the U.S. matches up should watch the whole 90-minute session, viewable below. (The official subcommittee hearing record is also available.)

By far the high point of the morning was an exchange between Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.) and Danielle Martin, a physician and health policy professor from Toronto. The exchange, in which Martin bats down the myths and misunderstandings about the Canadian system that Burr throws at her, starts at about the 1:00:15 mark.
(The reference to "Premier Williams" is to Newfoundland Premier Danny Williams, whose decision to have a heart valve procedure in Miami, near where he owns a condo, rather than Canada, is widely viewed in Canada as a rich man's failure to investigate the care available to him closer to home.)
Here's a lightly edited transcript of the key moments, which start with Burr asking Martin about the observation in her written testimony that wait times for elective surgery in single-payer systems will lengthen as doctors move out of the public system:
BURR: Why are doctors exiting the public system in Canada?
MARTIN: Thank you for your question, Senator. If I didn’t express myself in a way to make myself understood, I apologize. There are no doctors exiting the public system in Canada, and in fact we see a net influx of physicians from the United States into the Canadian system over the last number of years.
What I did say was that the solution to the wait time challenge that we have in Canada -- we do have a difficult time with waits for elective medical procedures -- does not lie in moving away from our single-payer system toward a multipayer system. And that’s borne out by the experience of Australia. So Australia used to have a single-tier system and did in the 1990s move toward a multiple-payer system where private insurance was permitted. And a very well-known study by Duckett, et al., tracked what took place in terms of wait times in Australia as the multipayer system was put in place.
And what they found was in those areas of Australia where private insurance was being taken up and utilized, waits in the public system became longer.
BURR: What do you say to an elected official who goes to Florida and not the Canadian system to have a heart valve replacement?
MARTIN: It’s actually interesting, because in fact the people who are the pioneers of that particular surgery, which Premier Williams had, and have the best health outcomes in the world for that surgery, are in Toronto, at the Peter Munk Cardiac Center, just down the street from where I work.
So what I say is that sometimes people have a perception, and I believe that actually this is fueled in part by media discourse, that going to where you pay more for something, that that necessarily makes it better, but it’s not actually borne out by the evidence on outcomes from that cardiac surgery or any other.
(The ultimate zinger came at the end of the exchange, when Burr thought he had Martin down for the count about wait times in Canada, and she neatly put the difference between the Canadian and U.S. systems in perspective.)
BURR: On average, how many Canadian patients on a waiting list die each year? Do you know?
MARTIN: I don’t, sir, but I know that there are 45,000 in America who die waiting because they don’t have insurance at all.

 

[oldjones]

Fox-Nuisance and Bull O'Reilly aside, along with Obama's actual abilities, Canadian Medicare and what the PotUS really said, the point OTB put on the table is well worth discussing these days when the popular cant heard on all sides is, "we're already taxed to deat and can't afford to pay a penny more", while what we have crumbles and decays and what we want and need gets further out of reach every day.

But don't ever suggest touching the 500 channels with nothing to watch that we—well, not me, but enough to make TedRogers a billionaire—pay for monthly.

Just half those dollars going for roads, transit, schools and health would make much better nations both sides of the border. And possibly smarter vters making better choices if they have less TV 'news' to watch.

 

[onthebottom]

He said that people saying healthcare is too expensive just haven't looked at what they are spending on cable TV and mobile phone bills and have not prioritized correctly… not misleading at all. If a Republican said something like this the lefty jackboots here would be on the march.

OTB

 

[Lovehobby]

He said that people saying healthcare is too expensive just haven't looked at what they are spending on cable TV and mobile phone bills and have not prioritized correctly… not misleading at all. If a Republican said something like this the lefty jackboots here would be on the march.

OTB

That is the way politics works. It is called "only Nixon can go to China".

 

[Lovehobby]

Canadian doctor gives GOP senator smack down at Obamacare Senate hearing. Ouch that will leave a mark.


http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/#!/content/1.2570872