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Gawker Claims Video Exists of Rob Ford Smoking Crack

oldjones

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yes I agree there are many, not all, that are completely obsessed with an invisible video to everyone but three. Based on your numerous posts on this topic you're at the top of this list: Obsession of the invisible.
I try to keep up. You clearly don't bother to read any of them, or you'd know I like to comment on what others have said, not the video. That I'll leave for when and if it can be seen.

I'll happily admit to being more than a tad obsessed with stuff like accuracy, relevance and logical thinking and poking at the places and folks I think are deficient. So I reply to you. With a predilection like mine, this thread is like a barrel so full of fish, bullets would be wasted.

Besides erroneous personal jibes, do you have anything useful, enlightening or informative to toss upon the waters?
 

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If I'm a betting man...Gawker is a front for the Toronto Star, operating at arms length over the border to ease the release of news with little risk.
Why do you keep posting shit like this? All your posts are invariably ridiculed and dismissed as useless and foolish. You seem utterly oblivious to your own stupidity and ignorance.
 

danmand

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Somewhat relevant is that the incoming President [Ford, no connection] speedily pardoned his predecessor so that the possibility of charging and trying him for anything, criminal or otherwise, moved back into politics. In Toronto we're still at the first stage, where the politics and the criminal stuff are completely inextricable.

As for the press, they go after and print what attracts the eyeballs they sell, and that's as true for the most respected journals as it is of the sleaziest tabloids and gossip sites. Like the unprincipled wrongdoing politicians who stubbornly cling to office, the prying salacious scandal-mongering media are the creations of the public. We buy their stories, we vote for them. And frankly, in an era when we're repeatedly voting for crooks and clowns and conspirators only because they chant the right slogans and wear the right colors it's a damned good thing we've got wikileakers, sneaky reporters and shrieking headlines to counter them with.

When we're all—or any of us—reading footnoted position papers and scholarly op-eds before and after voting, let me know. Until that glorious day, I only hope the press is free enough to be as self-interested and sleazy as the pols they go after. We get the pols and press we deserve.
I watched a discussion on "The Agenda" about the media's handling of the Rob Ford disaster. The publisher of the Star made a convincing argument that the story about Rob Ford actually hurt the sale of the Star.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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what relevance does the criminal activities of the occupants have?- i am not following
Because it shows the resident(s) are into hard-drugs. And its not like she was arrested for just using coke, she trafficked in the stuff.

It would be different IMO if she got busted for weed
 

fmahovalich

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This thread is a fine example of how the LEFT loves to carry on with grandiose innuendo, conjecture and speculation over some saliscious news story. After all..sex sells. So do drugs. ASK THE STAR AND THEIR Partner Gawker ( although Gawker has few subscribers relatively speaking, as the Mothership Star does the heavy lifting) Look at the spot count!!

Sort of like rubber neckers at accidents...they just have to see....pile on and big down traffic. Offering nothing...but injecting themselves to be heard...and the next thing we know we have a huge traffic jam. Think G20.

But when something important happens, with actual facts, monumental monetary loss, and political bias over the gas plants, the LEFTIES just drive by...no rubber necking. Nadda.....

It would be an interesting study.
 

red

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Because it shows the resident(s) are into hard-drugs. And its not like she was arrested for just using coke, she trafficked in the stuff.

It would be different IMO if she got busted for weed
i see. so guilt by association.
 

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Yeah FM, because it really is no big deal if the mayor is a crackhead. It wouldn't make Toronto a global laughingstock at all.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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i see. so guilt by association
Sort of, yup.

Like I said, still not enough evidence for a conviction if this were a court case. But it looks really bad, having a mayor frequent a home where drug dealers live.

I still wanna see that video though
 

fmahovalich

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Yes, if he is frequenting a crack house indeed it does add a lot of credibility to the allegation that he smokes crack.

Quick question Fuji Boy.

Would you like to see the Criminal charges laid against the Liberal Ministers who have been proven to delete emails, thereby obstructing justice and or perjuring themselves when asked at the inquiries if all documents had been turned over?

And please, no wishy washy Kathleen Wynn type responses.
 

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i see. so guilt by association.
One more piece of evidence for use in the court of public opinion. Yes, if he is associating with Crack dealers then the chance that he was smoking crack on a video increases.
 

fuji

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Quick question Fuji Boy.

Would you like to see the Criminal charges laid against the Liberal Ministers who have been proven to delete emails, thereby obstructing justice and or perjuring themselves when asked at the inquiries if all documents had been turned over?

And please, no wishy washy Kathleen Wynn type responses.
Get your own thread, this thread is about El Cracko Loco.
 

oldjones

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what relevance does the criminal activities of the occupants have?- i am not following
There's a continuing theme about the sufficiency of evidence for a criminal conviction, as if a TERB thread was a jury judging beyond a doubt. Those activities have not been shown to be relevant for jury-level thinking, but there are other levels. For a police investigation as one example, they would be quite relevant, and would be considered in the effort to gather enough additional stuff to give a Crown, who again has a benchmark rather less than the high standard required for a jury to convict. Outside the criminal-legal sphere, as in deciding civil matters such as Ford vs. the Star there are even more, like 'preponderance of evidence', and 'balance of probabilities'. In all of these such stff as you're asking after may be relevant, though it couldn't meet the test of relevance in a criminal matter.

FredZed hasn't established an official benchmark for TERBians who want to make judgements. It's certainly not unreasonable to point at the address, the occupants' activities and the several allegations of Rob's attendance there as well as the circumstances connecting the photo perhaps taken there with allegations of drug use, violence and murder as enough to meet a reasonable standard for speculation, investigation and reporting by the media and the media audience of citizens, even if it is not yet at the level for police investigation.

For those imagining this thread is a Jury Room, these matters are beyond consideration. For standard TERB standards, clearly they are not
 

Nate1

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Quick question Fuji Boy.

Would you like to see the Criminal charges laid against the Liberal Ministers who have been proven to delete emails, thereby obstructing justice and or perjuring themselves when asked at the inquiries if all documents had been turned over?

And please, no wishy washy Kathleen Wynn type responses.
Valid question . . . why don't you start a thread asking that question? How does this relate to this thread and the question of Mr. Ford being a drug addled Mayor?
 

slowandeasy

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I watched a discussion on "The Agenda" about the media's handling of the Rob Ford disaster. The publisher of the Star made a convincing argument that the story about Rob Ford actually hurt the sale of the Star.
I did not see the discussion, but I love the spin that the Rob Ford coverage hurt sales? Did he actually provide some numbers to prove his
point? The Star has become the National Enquirer of Canada, and there really needs to be some accountability.
 

oldjones

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Quick question Fuji Boy.

Would you like to see the Criminal charges laid against the Liberal Ministers who have been proven to delete emails, thereby obstructing justice and or perjuring themselves when asked at the inquiries if all documents had been turned over?

And please, no wishy washy Kathleen Wynn type responses.
No Liberal Ministers have been proven to have deleted any e-mails, or even been accused of doing so by anyone authoritative in anything I have read. I'm sure you'll promptly provide a link to st source for this serious charge you have made.

To spare you the trouble of actually saying what you really meant, I'll remind you that Ministers have people to do that sort of thing for them, and that two Ministerial CoS's have been so accused (not yet proven) but not their Ministers.

If that was what you meant to refer to when you slandered the actual Ministers, I'd caution you not to reply in a way that might suggest Mr. Harper should be held responsible for his CoS paying off a Senator to make a scandal go away.

And please, no rash and unconsidered Ford-type responses. Just to get us remotely close to the topic.
 

red

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One more piece of evidence for use in the court of public opinion. Yes, if he is associating with Crack dealers then the chance that he was smoking crack on a video increases.
thats what the romans and pharisees said about jesus
 
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