Gawker Claims Video Exists of Rob Ford Smoking Crack

groggy

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I think thats legally accurate
Its quite true, Ford is at little risk of charges or jail for what is supposed to be on the video.
And the city has no power to turf him, if its true.
But he's already lost the council and all or most of his backers at the city, if he tries to continue on it will be a mess.
 

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Its quite true, Ford is at little risk of charges or jail for what is supposed to be on the video.
And the city has no power to turf him, if its true.
But he's already lost the council and all or most of his backers at the city, if he tries to continue on it will be a mess.
rats + sinking ship (for what it seems)...this doesn't exceed my expectations.
 

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Its quite true, Ford is at little risk of charges or jail for what is supposed to be on the video.
And the city has no power to turf him, if its true.
But he's already lost the council and all or most of his backers at the city, if he tries to continue on it will be a mess
And all this with ZERO evidence so far. No video, no nothing!

Legal rights be damned, eh groggy?! Throw out the constitution as well. No trial, no proof, just toss the mayor out because of some allegations from a cheap gossip site like Gawker, and the supposed eyewitness account from a "newspaper" like The Star, who's had it in for Rob Ford since day one.

Yeah, thats fair and balanced justice right there. And quality journalism too
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Ford is rich. Anybody think that one of his supporters has bought the video to bury it
Doubtful.

Why spend $200K on a video without knowing for sure that drug dealer didnt make a few copies which he'll later put on youtube?!
 

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And all this with ZERO evidence so far. No video, no nothing!

Legal rights be damned, eh groggy?! Throw out the constitution as well. No trial, no proof, just toss the mayor out because of some allegations from a cheap gossip site like Gawker, and the supposed eyewitness account from a "newspaper" like The Star, who's had it in for Rob Ford since day one.

Yeah, thats fair and balanced justice right there. And quality journalism too
interview on the radio this morning. the guest said- "innocent or guilty he should resign"
 

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And all this with ZERO evidence so far. No video, no nothing!

Legal rights be damned, eh groggy?! Throw out the constitution as well. No trial, no proof, just toss the mayor out because of some allegations from a cheap gossip site like Gawker, and the supposed eyewitness account from a "newspaper" like The Star, who's had it in for Rob Ford since day one.

Yeah, thats fair and balanced justice right there. And quality journalism too
Nothing to do with legal rights. When he speaks, we'll listen; when he says something, we'll evaluate. How do you give someone like that a fair hearing when he stays hidden away and silent?

But we look at his job performance today and everyday. Not that it was worth the money before this crap, but his incompetent handling of the mess is entirely inadequate and unworthy. All he has done is turn bad to worse. What kind of Mayor hides from the people and the news media and sneaks out of City Hall for parts unknown by the backdoor? One who is running from his responsibilities, not one doing his job.

Doesn't matter much, we the people, even we, represented by our City Council, have no power to remove the Mayor anyway. They used to only serve short terms so we could promptly vote in a new one, but a string of competent, well intentioned team players lulled the province into extending the term to four years. All we get to do, is what we've done since Don Cherry celebrated his election: Try to manage as best we can with a clown in the Chair, and get the work done in spite of him. All he's doing is confirming his irrelevancy.

If this is how Rob handles a maybe non-existant, maybe faked video of a maybe crack-fest, imagine how competently he'd handle a blizzard. Would he even notice the ambulances weren't getting through? At least Mel sincerely tried to be on the job and on top of the situation. How pathetic to read people excusing his bufoonery, inaction and incompetence, even now because he saved them—you do know not everyone got their vehicle tax cut—a paltry few dollars while raising everyone's property taxes and accomplishing nothing at all in the way of civic improvement.

Even his handpicked Executive has said—in writing because he's hiding from them too—he's blundering this one.

Crack or not, he clearly needs help. And a job that suits him better.
 

groggy

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And all this with ZERO evidence so far. No video, no nothing!

Legal rights be damned, eh groggy?! Throw out the constitution as well. No trial, no proof, just toss the mayor out because of some allegations from a cheap gossip site like Gawker, and the supposed eyewitness account from a "newspaper" like The Star, who's had it in for Rob Ford since day one.

Yeah, thats fair and balanced justice right there. And quality journalism too
Regardless of whether or not he actually is a crackhead who hangs out with drug dealers, he's shown himself to be a disaster as a mayor.
The man already was caught lying to national media about drug charges and a dui in Florida, he blew his credibility years before this came to light.
He's lost the confidence of council and the city, do you really think he should still run North America's 4th largest city?

Anyone get one of his fridge magnets?
Maybe its time to give him a call and see if he's still talking to taxpayers, I have branch on a tree that needs trimming.
 

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Nothing to do with legal rights. You look at his job performance. Not that it was worth the money before this mess, but his incompetent handling of it is entirely substandard. What kind of Mayor hides from the people and the news media and sneaks out of City Hall for parts unknown by the backdoor? One who is running from his responsibilities, not one doing his job.

Doesn't matter, we the people, even we represented by our City Council, have no power to remove the Mayor anyway. They used to only serve short terms so we could promptly vote in a new one, but a string of competent, well intentioned team players lulled the province into extending the term to four years.

If this is how Rob handles a maybe non-existant, maybe faked video of a maybe crack-fest, imagine how competently he'd handle an army-scale blizzard. How pathetic to read people excusing his bufoonery and incompetence because he saved them a paltry few dollars while raising everyone's property taxes and accomplishing nothing in the way of civic improvement.

Even his handpicked Executive has formally said he's blundered this one.
Are we talking about Ford? or the one before him?
 

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This story stinks to heaven from day one.

Let me explain.

Somali? Yes Somali foods are good. Somali people are good looking. But why these career criminals identify their ethnic background? I doubt they did. The story tellers just throw that in to sensationalize the encounter.

Drug dealers? Why these video sellers wanted to identify themselves for their career choice? I doubt they did. Sensational journalism at work again.

Why this American website operator risked his own life, without security or back-ups, went to total stranger city in a foreign country (our beloved Toronto is only beloved by us Torontonians but not many someone else outside of Toronto) in person to view this video ( and negotiate price) with "Somali" "drug dealers". Blackmailling, kidnapping and even murder come in my mind.

All this American needed to do is to ask the video owner to send him few second of "highlight" of the recording.

Why 2 newspaper reporters risked their own personal safety to climb into back seats of a known drug dealers' vehical in an area infested with illegal activities?

Why not meet the seller in a bright light donut shop?

Nervous and poor lighting, how can they be sure enough to report anything they claimed they saw on a small srceen cellphone?

Did this website operator and these 2 reporters pay any fees to view the video? Any amount?

Wasn't the owner afraid this "only copy" video might be eraised by all those touchings during the viewing? (I assume these drug dealers and video owner(s) did not know the American and the 2 reporters before the meetings)

Is there any drug dealers so tight for cash to put themselves on the police radar for $200,000? Risking to expose their own wholesale suppliers and handlers? Scaring away their other clientel? The only "poor" drub dealers are the "busted" drug dealers, no?

Why the Star, the storyteller, wanted to scare away the drug dealers and the video owner emphasizing the cops will be "waiting and watching"? Why the Star emphasized the technical dificulties the American might encounter in moving the $200,000 to pay for the video?

Don't they really want to publish the video for all of its readers to see in person themselves?

Or they just don't.

For the exit strategy?
 

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My take on this video?

It exists but its a jokarlist product.

I think Rob Ford saw it before the Star contacted his office and published the story eventually.

And I think he had consulted his lawyer(s) and he has been following their advices not to say anything because base on the wordings of the Star published article he doesn't have a very good chance to claim damages and then be rewarded for compensations.

Poor Rob Ford must have enough lawsuits already for the rest of his life.
 

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Why this American website operator risked his own life, without security or back-ups, went to total stranger city in a foreign country (our beloved Toronto is only beloved by us Torontonians but not many someone else outside of Toronto) in person to view this video ( and negotiate price) with "Somali" "drug dealers". Blackmailling, kidnapping and even murder come in my mind.

All this American needed to do is to ask the video owner to send him few second of "highlight" of the recording.

Why 2 newspaper reporters risked their own personal safety to climb into back seats of a known drug dealers' vehical in an area infested with illegal activities?

Why not meet the seller in a bright light donut shop?
It's no different from any news story for a reporter to pursue. Whether it's war, middle east, south america, etc. -- it's going to be dangerous.

Plus, these are the non-negotiable terms of the video-owner. Accept them or no meeting.
 

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I think Rob Ford saw it before the Star contacted his office and published the story eventually.

And I think he had consulted his lawyer(s) and he has been following their advices not to say anything because base on the wordings of the Star published article he doesn't have a very good chance to claim damages and then be rewarded for compensations.
Its too bad he didn't take the advice of his chief of staff and go into rehab, instead he just fired him.
If Ford saw the video he'd have to have been in contact with the drug dealers, so you think was in contact with them either way?
How about the photo Ford has yet to deny of him with a now dead dealer?
 

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It's no different from any news story for a reporter to pursue. Whether it's war, middle east, south america, etc. -- it's going to be dangerous.

Plus, these are the non-negotiable terms of the video-owner. Accept them or no meeting.
Sure "no meeting".

You think there is a hugh market for this $200,000 video?

PS: these are not war reporters we are talking about.
 

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Bullard's twitter :biggrin1:

Mike Bullard ‏@MikeBullard
Ironic that a guy named "Holiday" is the only one doing any work at city hall this week
 

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Sure "no meeting".

You think there is a hugh market for this $200,000 video?

PS: these are not war reporters we are talking about.
You're a 'little' naive, aren't you? :Eek:

No market for the video?
Duh? It's Crackstarter is up to $145k.
Duh? Worldwide media attention.

You're real naive about journalism too? Whoa?
There are plenty of reporters/journalist, that given the chance for "The Scoop" will travel to hell and back to report

"meeting"
I guess you don't have a clue about strategy, negotiations, power positioning or the art of war
 

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Its too bad he didn't take the advice of his chief of staff and go into rehab, instead he just fired him.
If Ford saw the video he'd have to have been in contact with the drug dealers, so you think was in contact with them either way?
How about the photo Ford has yet to deny of him with a now dead dealer?
Wild Speculation based on my little speculation?

I don't know the reason why his chief of staff got fired.

You don't have to be in contact (you make it sound like he frequents with) drug dealers. It might as simple as someone contact his office saying he got a video Ford ought to see and buy so that the video will not see sunlight again. For that he might demand his "price" and the mayor said no.

Picture with a dead person or dealer? Mel Lastman took pictures with Hell Angels and I had pictures taken with a lot of VIP and they didn't know I am a criminal.
 

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No market for the video?
Duh? It's Crackstarter is up to $145k.
Duh? Worldwide media attention.
So there is NO demand from single persons or corporations in the market for this $200,000 video?

You're real naive about journalism too? Whoa?
There are plenty of reporters/journalist, that given the chance for "The Scoop" will travel to hell and back to report
I guess beside the war reporters the Star reporters did just that to dig dirt on Rob Ford, didn't them. And all the time for the last 2 years. You are so right.

"meeting"
I guess you don't have a clue about strategy, negotiations, power positioning or the art of war
So this is what its all about?

"Strategy, negotiations, power positioning or the art of war" against Rob Ford , the democratically elected Mayor of Toronto?

PS: Please wait for your democratical say in the next election.
 

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why would they pay 200k for a video when the guy has already been pronounced guilty. all the news has to say now is "we saw it and it is him" the mass public love watching people fall and this is no different. so why waste the money.
 
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