For laptops, that's a 400%-500% increase.
Soon enough, the same progress will be made for smartphones.
So, it's definitely a worthy endeavour for companies to pursue and very likely breakthroughs will occur.
Get my point now?
Iphone4. Vs. Galaxy
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Soon enough, the same progress will be made for smartphones.
So, it's definitely a worthy endeavour for companies to pursue and very likely breakthroughs will occur.
Get my point now?
Let me paraphrase your argument for you in fewer words: "any phone that doesn't come with a user-replaceable battery is a toy phone". Put that way, it's obvious just how absurd this statement is. If you want battery life, the aforementioned battery case for the iPhone is a fantastic solution. You can't equivocate and shift the goalposts by calling it "bulky", when the phone you're currently using is bulkier than the iPhone anyway (since it has a removable battery). Besides, you wouldn't hold the handset to your ears. Busy people use bluetooth earpieces or docks that pipe audio through external speakers. If you're truly tied to your phone all day as you claim, I'd think that you couldn't afford even 2 minutes of downtime in a day, which is how long it would take to shutdown, swap the battery, and reboot. So the external battery case would be even better than your current way of doing things (no downtime whatsoever). Lest you interpret this as an attack on your very identity (let's face it, you're unusually attached to your phone and the constant "Android ruleeezz!!!1" bleating is getting tiring), bear in mind that there is a growing market for external battery cases for the newest Android phones as well.
Tell me fuji, are businessmen who use phones without replaceable batteries not true businessmen? Are they poseurs?
You seem to think that it's talk time that is eating my battery, it's not. I do have a bluetooth headset, and I might spend a couple of hours talking on my phone some days, but that is not what kills the battery.
What kills my battery is the screen on time. That's because I use my phone as my main mobile computing device. If I'm in a meeting, I'm using it to read relevant documents, or viewing a slide deck. The rest of the time I'm sending/receiving emails and IMs. And aside from all that, if I'm sitting around being bored then I use it to check facebook, shop on ebay, play some game, or log onto terb. In short, the screen winds up being on a LOT, and this is what kills the battery. I can see in the power status page that 80-90% of my battery goes to power the screen, and that's because any non-talking use of my phone has the screen on. Everything else the phone does uses very little power, but those nice bright high definition colour screens are power hungry.
If I just used my phone to talk, or left it sitting around in standby mode, the battery would probably last a couple of days, but turn it into a mini-laptop and use it for documents and emails, and suddenly you're into hours of screen on time, and that's a killer.
And yes, I think those cases are BULKY. I carry my phone around with me in my pocket. I carry the spare battery in my back pocket and I have another one in my laptop bag. Either way it's not nearly so bulky as the battery case. Sure, you can probably work around this iPhone failure by using that case--but it's an ugly and stupid solution that reduces the convenience of the phone. All for what? Because your iPhone case is screwed shut. Stupid.
What kills my battery is the screen on time. That's because I use my phone as my main mobile computing device. If I'm in a meeting, I'm using it to read relevant documents, or viewing a slide deck. The rest of the time I'm sending/receiving emails and IMs. And aside from all that, if I'm sitting around being bored then I use it to check facebook, shop on ebay, play some game, or log onto terb. In short, the screen winds up being on a LOT, and this is what kills the battery. I can see in the power status page that 80-90% of my battery goes to power the screen, and that's because any non-talking use of my phone has the screen on. Everything else the phone does uses very little power, but those nice bright high definition colour screens are power hungry.
If I just used my phone to talk, or left it sitting around in standby mode, the battery would probably last a couple of days, but turn it into a mini-laptop and use it for documents and emails, and suddenly you're into hours of screen on time, and that's a killer.
And yes, I think those cases are BULKY. I carry my phone around with me in my pocket. I carry the spare battery in my back pocket and I have another one in my laptop bag. Either way it's not nearly so bulky as the battery case. Sure, you can probably work around this iPhone failure by using that case--but it's an ugly and stupid solution that reduces the convenience of the phone. All for what? Because your iPhone case is screwed shut. Stupid.
Have I got news for you. Web browsing is about as screen-intensive as you can get, and the iPhone 4S comes out on top in the battery life benchmarks.
Which is only academically interesting. In the real world that just means your iPhone runs out of batter 30-45min after my phone ran out of battery. By that time I have my fresh battery popped in, and I've still got hours of battery left, while you have a paperweight.
30-45 min? Try 4 hours (look at the graphs again). There's no need to be intentionally obtuse about this, man.
Nope, and that's one of the two big reasons why its battery life is miles ahead of the competition. 4G chipsets were power hogs back when it was released, so its hardware engineering team decided to double its cellular bandwidth with antenna switching instead. I'm guessing you need more than 14.4 Mbps for those slide decks and web-surfing?
At the rate that the Android phone market is going, everybody will be using "toy phones" according to Fuji's definition.
there is no real end to this discussion. I will stay with my current phone because it's got what I need. Fuck the apps...how much harder would your life be without them? I would understand teenagers having butt-itch on every new phone that comes out of the market but this cellphone-war is getting out of hand...just finished watching "God Bless America" btw...
This is a serious load of horse shit. I had to jailbreak my iPhone because Apple refused to put applications in their iTunes store because they were either denying me service offered in their later (iPhone 4) models or they had their own shitty app they were trying to push so they refused to carry the better app. If you are happy getting spoon fed all your decisions what your iPhone can or cannot do - good for you. I am not going to deny myself the benefits of modern technology simply in some perverse product loyalty to either Blackberry, iPhone or Android. As soon as you loose your objectiveness and embrace blind product loyalty- you loose.
I have no idea how people are getting O/S without iTunes. My Android tablet updated to ICS without the need to tether to a PC but my iPhone always requires tethering. If the iPhone O/S can be updated without tethering, it could be new O/S functionality that I have recently refused to update. [Steve Jobs view of people that jailbreak their phones is that they are terrorists or thieves and consequently new O/S software always try to plug jailbreak loop holes.] I won't update unless I know the jailbreak exists and lately I've been too busy to do the research. This - a long with the inability to expand my memory is one of the prime reasons I will switch to Android on the next round.
What a tool you are
Guess that's the way they train Apple salesmen like you today, eh nibs....
Sad that you are sooooo drunk in Apple iJuice you can't learn a thing nibs.....
Guess that's the way they train Apple salesmen like you today, eh nibs....
Actually, we've been over this locked-in battery issue before and it was proven to be a red herring. Simply buy an external battery pack and plug it in.
Actually, no, if I need to recharge I simply place the iPhone or Galaxy S (it takes a different external battery pack though) down and recharge it. And, the thing is, only the Galaxy has depleted its battery on me, you remember all of my postings about its short or inconsistent battery life?
So, first you have this huge pack to carry around in your pocket, and second, you can't use your phone while it's charging. You're either doing a quick charge, which grossly reduces the lifespan of the battery that you can't swap.
Spare batteries for my phone cost $5 on eBay, by the way.
Spare batteries for my phone cost $5 on eBay, by the way.
