Iphone4. Vs. Galaxy

[Identity]

Similar to the 1.6% of iOS users who jailbreak to remove the limitations from their phone. You don't have to jailbreak, and you can wait for your carrier to push through your Android update.

People jailbreak iPhones because they love to tinker (nothing wrong with that), or they are zealot techies obsessed with "freedom" (goes back to what I said about it just being a phone, not a way of life). The App Store review process has worked amazingly well, so well that it has been adopted by Microsoft for the Windows Phone and Windows 8 App Store. I enjoy the peace of mind in knowing that smart programmers at Apple have reviewed every app's code to ensure that my dirty secrets aren't secretly being siphoned off to some slimy hacker in Bumfarkistan.

As mentioned earlier, most Android users shouldn't hold their breaths waiting for the carriers to push an update. They're stuck on their stale version until the hardware gives way. This is the very definition of planned obsolescence. I know the problem isn't with Android per se, but the carriers. It's Google's fault for being such milquetoast pansies during negotiations. Someday they'll grow a spine.

 

[Powershot]

As mentioned earlier, most Android users shouldn't hold their breaths waiting for the carriers to push an update. They're stuck on their stale version until the hardware gives way. This is the very definition of planned obsolescence. I know the problem isn't with Android per se, but the carriers. It's Google's fault for being such milquetoast pansies during negotiations. Someday they'll grow a spine.

Most Android phones never get an update pushed out? Hmm that's odd, I've had two and they both got updates (not Nexus models), and I know plenty of Galaxy S2 users who got ICS from Rogers etc. But whatever makes up "most" in your mind must be accurate.

 

[Identity]

Most Android phones never get an update pushed out? Hmm that's odd, I've had two and they both got updates (not Nexus models), and I know plenty of Galaxy S2 users who got ICS from Rogers etc. But whatever makes up "most" in your mind must be accurate.

That link again. Only 10.9% of Android phones are running ICS. That's horrible, for software that was released back in October last year. Even more alarming is the fact that (according to the official graph) almost 1 in 4 Android users still don't have essential security patches, so hackers are having a field day with their phones as we speak. Hide yo' kids, hide yo' wife.

 

[Powershot]

That link again. Only 10.9% of Android phones are running ICS. That's horrible, for software that was released back in October last year.

I agree the ICS upgrades have been pretty limited, but lots got updated to Froyo or Gingerbread.
I bet iPhone 4 users are loving their Siri and looking forward to the ios6 facetime over 3g, turn by turn navigation and 3d floyover feature... That A5 proc must not be so great, everyone though the Ipad 2 rocks with it.

 

[simon482]

i was trying to help my mom with her iphone today. god that thing is a confusing piece of shit. i take a pic with my droid then click on the pic and it gives me a list of places to share (FB, twitter, text, email) then i click which i want to send it to and it's there.

iphone i had to log into her face bok, click on upload a pic, find the album the pic was in, select the pic, then upload it. while not complicated it is still more frustrating and less fast than a droid and her iphone is about half the size of my razr maxx.

 

[CapitalGuy]

It depends on whether you're a normal dude who likes to fuck women and does so frequently (iPhone) or if you're a basement-dwelling weirdo who sits around in his tightie whities, in the basement, masturbating to star trek cartoons (galaxy). Your call.

 

[simon482]

It depends on whether you're a normal dude who likes to fuck women and does so frequently (iPhone) or if you're a basement-dwelling weirdo who sits around in his tightie whities, in the basement, masturbating to star trek cartoons (galaxy). Your call.

god that is sad lol

 

[djk]

It depends on whether you're a normal dude who likes to fuck women and does so frequently (iPhone) or if you're a basement-dwelling weirdo who sits around in his tightie whities, in the basement, masturbating to star trek cartoons (galaxy). Your call.

Hey, you're on to something...

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162-20013286-10391704.html

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/08/gadget-sex/

 

[onthebottom]

For me with my android phone everything just worked, including the over-the-air upgrade from gingerbread to ICS. I got a little status bar icon one day saying an upgrade was available, so I clicked OK. It upgraded my phone and just worked.

All the basic stuff people do just worked on my phone the day I bought it, out of the box. Emails, webs, taking pictures and videos, sharing pictures and videos on email facebook or youtube, google maps, browsing the web, GPS integration, and obviously the basic phone stuff like send/receive texts and phone calls. It all just worked.

I never flashed any ROM on my phone. If I did I could remove a few apps that I don't use that are always running there, but that's no big deal. That's just nerd optimization, so I can say I'm cooler because stuff would then launch on my phone a half second faster than if I didn't do that. Big fucking deal.

I did go on to install a bunch of apps to do things that didn't come with my phone, and for the most part, that all just worked as well. I installed a bunch of different messaging clients, VOIP clients, forum browsing software, some games, and other things. I locked down security on my phone by putting on a selective app protector. I installed a little app that automatically turns on my wifi when I get home, and makes my phone silent when I'm in the office, based on network location. But that stuff is all extras. The basics just work on Android. Maybe in early versions that was not the case, but it is the case today.

In fact I don't think I could stand using an iPhone because it doesn't even have some of the basics, like good integration with gmail or google maps. The lack of that stuff is just fucking painful, whereas on my phone, that was built in and just worked.

your lucky, 90% are not:

The last two points are just wrong, I have my gmail account integrated with my work email on my iPhone - seamless integration (joint inbox...) and google maps comes as a required app on iOS 5. Fuji is wrong, wonder how long it will take him to admit it.

OTB

 

[onthebottom]

It depends on whether you're a normal dude who likes to fuck women and does so frequently (iPhone) or if you're a basement-dwelling weirdo who sits around in his tightie whities, in the basement, masturbating to star trek cartoons (galaxy). Your call.

Now that's funny, because it's true.....

now go flash a rom.....

 

[GG2]

Hey, you're on to something...

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162-20013286-10391704.html

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/08/gadget-sex/

All that sex (quantity, not quality) and RIM is tanking. Those surveys (not studies) were taken from free dating site OKCupid.com in 2010 when nobody knew what Android was. Let's try a new 'scientific' poll for 2012 on the same site or plentyoffish to mix it up.

 

[fuji]

Fortunately iOS6 will do away with Google Maps entirely. Apple will be using their own mapping service with turn-by-turn directions.

Will it include street view? Will it be as up to date? Nobody seriously believes it will be as good as Google Maps. It is a killer app, and it is a big liability on the iPhone. The fact that the iPhone has a slightly better music player does not convince me to give up on Google maps.

 

[fuji]

your lucky, 90% are not

It's not luck. It's pretty clear which phones to buy, if you want to have one that is better than an iPhone.

 

[Identity]

Will it include street view? Will it be as up to date? Nobody seriously believes it will be as good as Google Maps. It is a killer app, and it is a big liability on the iPhone. The fact that the iPhone has a slightly better music player does not convince me to give up on Google maps.

And that's perfectly alright. Everyone's use case is different. If Android fits your usage patterns best, by all means continue using Android. I find the builtin Google Maps app on iOS to be more than adequate in getting me from point A to point B. I don't miss Street View. Others might. I buy my music from iTunes, listen to podcasts, get lectures from iTunes University, and control my media centre using my iPhone. This works for me.

 

[black booty lover]

I have an Iphone 4 and I think it's simply best invention in the history of the world.

 

[djk]

It's not luck. It's pretty clear which phones to buy, if you want to have one that is better than an iPhone.

 

[fuji]

And that's perfectly alright. Everyone's use case is different. If Android fits your usage patterns best, by all means continue using Android. I find the builtin Google Maps app on iOS to be more than adequate in getting me from point A to point B. I don't miss Street View. Others might. I buy my music from iTunes, listen to podcasts, get lectures from iTunes University, and control my media centre using my iPhone. This works for me.

I find iTunes horribly overpriced, and overall a pretty useless piece of software. Not having that is an advantage, the whole thing seems to be designed to prevent you from doing whatever you want with the content you buy. It makes anything I actually want to do HARDER, and charges me extra for the privilege of frustrating me. I don't have that crap installed anywhere. If I really did want to buy something from iTunes I could buy it on a PC and copy it over, and once upon a time I installed iTunes so that I could do that. But you know what? I never did buy anything there, and eventually I just deleted the application.

I download a couple of gigs of content a month, various podcasts, documentaries, lectures, whatever. They're all available, and it all just works. The only things I really miss are things that aren't available on iPhone either--like Pandora Radio not being available in Canada. It's available in the US on both platforms, but Canadians lose. Pandora is the killer app for music, not anything Apple ever made.

You know the ONLY value that Apple offers, in my opinion? They force the carriers to sell you a stock iPhone that is not broken by carrier specific crap. That is the real reason why you find some Android users struggling with older versions of the software and phones that have broken shit on them. They got some carrier-specific ROM that just doesn't work very well and is never updated. This is also the #1 reason why people wind up flashing their phone with a new ROM--to escape the problems the carrier specific ROM has. So is that an advantage of an iPhone? Hell no. You just have to know enough to avoid stupid carrier branded versions of Android. Then it's all good and none of the problems you mentioned exist.

To me your argument boils down to, "I am too dumb or too lazy to spend 10 minutes making sure the phone I'm buying is a stock phone that is fully supported, so I bought an inferior phone where I don't have to worry about that." Uh.. yeah.

 

[fuji]

It's absolutely true. If you buy some broken carrier-specific Android phone, or from a shitty vendor like Sony, you are getting a shitty product and certainly an iPhone is better than that. But if you buy a stock android phone made by a good vendor, HTC or Samsung, your phone will kick the ass of any equivalent generation iPhone. And by that I mean is that it will do more things, it will do them faster, and more of them will "just work" without any problem, out of the box.

Android market is also simply a better market, and it's because it's built on a better platform, from the perspective of App developers, and consequently from the perspective of users too. What do I mean by that? It tickles me pink that things like "Angry Bird" are paid apps in the iPhone world. You guys just get ripped off. It should be FREE. But nope, you have to pay. A lot of other apps aren't even available to you, and not always because Apple's being a shithead and shutting it out--which they do--but because App developers often just don't care as much about iPhone, even when there are more iPhones in their target market.

You know why you have to pay for stuff on iPhone that should be free? Because Google has a better marketing engine behind Android, and while as an end user you may THINK you don't care about that, what it means is that it's a lot more interesting (read, profitable) platform for App developers, and they are willing to give away a hell of a lot of stuff for free, to tap into that ad revenue. Try the app and like it, but don't like the ads? There is almost always a pay version that eliminates the ads. But you don't have to pay until you know whether you like the app, and even then, only if the ads are bugging you.

But here's the kicker: We all know that there are probably 100 people out there who are willing to use an app if it's free, for every one person who is willing to pay for it. On the Google platform, the app developer gets paid for all 101 users. On the iPhone, they only get paid by one.

Now it's a small thing, but it demonstrates the fundamental superiority of the Google platform. And by platform, I don't just mean Android. I mean the entire integrated Google infrastructure, that connects your phone to the Google apps/API infrastructure, from Google maps, through Gmail, through Adsense.

 

[djk]

To me your argument boils down to, "I am too dumb or too lazy to spend 10 minutes making sure the phone I'm buying is a stock phone that is fully supported, so I bought an inferior phone where I don't have to worry about that." Uh.. yeah.

Not really.

The only stock Android phones are the Nexus lineup. The latest model is the Galaxy Nexus.

And even then, customers are dictated when they will get their updates based on type of Galaxy Nexus they have.

Versions that are yakjusc, yakjuxw and yakjuux get their updates from Samsung and the carriers. In other words, patience is a virtue.

Versions that are yakju get their updates from Google and Samsung.

Ones with takju get their updates directly from Google and are updated within a few days of an update being released. Problem is that Takju devices are only available from Google Play. You can't get them subsidized from the carriers. Most phones subsidized from the carriers are one of the yakjusc variants.

So even if someone were to follow your advice and get a Galaxy Nexus. They're not guaranteed to get updates in a timely manner. Not even close.

 

[djk]

It's absolutely true. If you buy some broken carrier-specific Android phone, or from a shitty vendor like Sony, you are getting a shitty product and certainly an iPhone is better than that. But if you buy a stock android phone made by a good vendor, HTC or Samsung, your phone will kick the ass of any equivalent generation iPhone. And by that I mean is that it will do more things, it will do them faster, and more of them will "just work" without any problem, out of the box.

Android market is also simply a better market, and it's because it's built on a better platform, from the perspective of App developers, and consequently from the perspective of users too. What do I mean by that? It tickles me pink that things like "Angry Bird" are paid apps in the iPhone world. You guys just get ripped off. It should be FREE. But nope, you have to pay. A lot of other apps aren't even available to you, and not always because Apple's being a shithead and shutting it out--which they do--but because App developers often just don't care as much about iPhone, even when there are more iPhones in their target market.

You know why you have to pay for stuff on iPhone that should be free? Because Google has a better marketing engine behind Android, and while as an end user you may THINK you don't care about that, what it means is that it's a lot more interesting (read, profitable) platform for App developers, and they are willing to give away a hell of a lot of stuff for free, to tap into that ad revenue. Try the app and like it, but don't like the ads? There is almost always a pay version that eliminates the ads. But you don't have to pay until you know whether you like the app, and even then, only if the ads are bugging you.

But here's the kicker: We all know that there are probably 100 people out there who are willing to use an app if it's free, for every one person who is willing to pay for it. On the Google platform, the app developer gets paid for all 101 users. On the iPhone, they only get paid by one.

Now it's a small thing, but it demonstrates the fundamental superiority of the Google platform. And by platform, I don't just mean Android. I mean the entire integrated Google infrastructure, that connects your phone to the Google apps/API infrastructure, from Google maps, through Gmail, through Adsense.