WTf is up with some SP's?

[frankcastle]

Interesting theory.

I feel that if clients had their lives in order, there would be no market for SPs, so there wouldn't be any SPs. The more fucked up a client's life and the client's past and the client's work related stresses and the client's family related stresses - the better for SPs!

When my life wasn't in order, I wasn't a very good SP - I was very cranky after all, my life wasn't in very good order. Now, however, I like to think I have my life in pretty good order and so I'm happy and so clients repeat with me more than they ever did before - also I am able to work more giving clients easier access to my body - because of course, when my life wasn't in very good order I cancelled every other call! Ain't that somethin?

Also, I make SOOOOO much money the day right after a long weekend! I wonder why that is...

I disagree. My life has progressively gotten better over the last 10 years in terms of finances, personal life, maturing, reduced partying, health but I still enjoy the hobby.

Flat out from the client side there will always be horny men. The fact that you hear about their problems is a side effect. You only hear about the bad stuff because some guys go to vent. Kinda like the friendly bartender.

From the SP side there will always be women who will do this job because it pays very well. In terms of income and flexible hours and little to no qualifications necessary it is open to a lot of women. That is not to say that SPs are dumb and uneducated. Far from it. I'm just pointing out that it is an easy job to get. Granted it can be difficult to do. Some have their lives together and others don't but I don't htink this is what draws women to this profession. I would assume that for most it is some sort of financial desperation be it large debts, difficulty finding a job that supports their lifestyle, or people who depend on them.

 

[Hurricane Hank]

I must be totally dysfunctional as well as mature. I keep helping SPs (White Knight Syndrome?) and for the most part, like normal everyday people, they keep letting me down.

The one thing I don't do is air my dirty laundry. Isn't that what Facebook is for?

 

[GPIDEAL]

Interesting theory.

I feel that if clients had their lives in order, there would be no market for SPs, so there wouldn't be any SPs. The more fucked up a client's life and the client's past and the client's work related stresses and the client's family related stresses - the better for SPs!

When my life wasn't in order, I wasn't a very good SP - I was very cranky after all, my life wasn't in very good order. Now, however, I like to think I have my life in pretty good order and so I'm happy and so clients repeat with me more than they ever did before - also I am able to work more giving clients easier access to my body - because of course, when my life wasn't in very good order I cancelled every other call! Ain't that somethin?

Also, I make SOOOOO much money the day right after a long weekend! I wonder why that is...

I don't think that's an analogy, but I also don't believe that every SP's life is by definition out of order. I believe GG is saying the more women whose lives are out of order, the more likely that there will be more SPs for a man's choosing, but this doesn't mean that in general, SP's have their lives in disarray. On the contrary, there are many who do so freely and not out of desparation.

 

[Mod100]

Interesting theory.

I feel that if clients had their lives in order, there would be no market for SPs, so there wouldn't be any SPs. The more fucked up a client's life and the client's past and the client's work related stresses and the client's family related stresses - the better for SPs!

When my life wasn't in order, I wasn't a very good SP - I was very cranky after all, my life wasn't in very good order. Now, however, I like to think I have my life in pretty good order and so I'm happy and so clients repeat with me more than they ever did before - also I am able to work more giving clients easier access to my body - because of course, when my life wasn't in very good order I cancelled every other call! Ain't that somethin?

Also, I make SOOOOO much money the day right after a long weekend! I wonder why that is...

See, I told you she wasn't just another pretty face.

 

[GG2]

Interesting theory.

I feel that if clients had their lives in order, there would be no market for SPs, so there wouldn't be any SPs. The more fucked up a client's life and the client's past and the client's work related stresses and the client's family related stresses - the better for SPs!

When my life wasn't in order, I wasn't a very good SP - I was very cranky after all, my life wasn't in very good order. Now, however, I like to think I have my life in pretty good order and so I'm happy and so clients repeat with me more than they ever did before - also I am able to work more giving clients easier access to my body - because of course, when my life wasn't in very good order I cancelled every other call! Ain't that somethin?

Also, I make SOOOOO much money the day right after a long weekend! I wonder why that is...

Men paying for sex has to do with their biology - the desire for sex. That they can afford to pay hundreds of dollars for sex attests to their financial success.

Every day people go to work when their personal lives are in disarray. Even when they feel crumby, they know that when they answer that Customer Service phone, they must pretend to be happy. If they don't, they lose their job, and no money comes in. You do the same as an SP.

Demonstrates that he's willing to take advantage of someone . . . to serve his own selfish needs!

It's a symbiotic relationship. SPs take advantage of men's naturally high libidos, and men take advantage of women's financial desperation. Male libidos won't change anytime soon, so you had better hope women continue to clamor for the latest Versace purse so that they'll continue have sex with men they don't like for money.

 

[K Douglas]

Interesting theory.

I feel that if clients had their lives in order, there would be no market for SPs, so there wouldn't be any SPs. The more fucked up a client's life and the client's past and the client's work related stresses and the client's family related stresses - the better for SPs!

When my life wasn't in order, I wasn't a very good SP - I was very cranky after all, my life wasn't in very good order. Now, however, I like to think I have my life in pretty good order and so I'm happy and so clients repeat with me more than they ever did before - also I am able to work more giving clients easier access to my body - because of course, when my life wasn't in very good order I cancelled every other call! Ain't that somethin?

Also, I make SOOOOO much money the day right after a long weekend! I wonder why that is...

I somewhat take offense to that comment Kareena. I feel that my life is in order - I work hard and earn an above average salary. I have goals, people respect me and come to me for advice, I don't abuse drugs or alcohol, I'm not depressed. I'm close with my family. Yet I choose to see escorts and masseuses. Why? Because I am absorbed with work and family I don't have much time to date and quite frankly when I do I haven't had much luck. The bottom line is you are generalizing all of us hobbyists the same way some of us generalize all sex workers as being dysfunctional.

 

[jiiimmm]

I too have my shit together and expect the same in an SP. Airing all your dirty laundry for the world to see, plus all your so called friends adding to the heap of laundry is just bizarre to say the least. I had the chance to read about that train wreck before it got deleted. It's life,it sucks, she'll get over it eventually, but after that display I wouldn't touch anyone of them with a ten foot pole. Drama queens all. (including a lot of the guys who felt the need to add their two cents into everything)

 

[GPIDEAL]

I somewhat take offense to that comment Kareena. I feel that my life is in order - I work hard and earn an above average salary. I have goals, people respect me and come to me for advice, I don't abuse drugs or alcohol, I'm not depressed. I'm close with my family. Yet I choose to see escorts and masseuses. Why? Because I am absorbed with work and family I don't have much time to date and quite frankly when I do I haven't had much luck. The bottom line is you are generalizing all of us hobbyists the same way some of us generalize all sex workers as being dysfunctional.

I agree, but clearly Kareena took offence to GG's comment (which I can appreciate).

 

[Hiding]

Kareena, while I don't agree with you that the more messed up a client's life is the better for SPs, my respect for you shot up after your first post. Specifically, I think you make a very important point about these women putting themselves out there and that particularly for the ones demonstrating distress the last thing they need to is be made to feel stupid or 'less than'.

The fascination with which people observe these issues reminds me of people slowing down to see a car crash despite being in the opposite lane. Finding entertainment or judging someone's misfortunes and poor decisions is the hobby of someone who doesn't have anything better to do.

If SPs had their lives in order, they wouldn't be SPs and we'd be deprived of easy access to their bodies. The more fucked up their lives, the better for hobbiests.

I find this pretty offensive. I disagree vehemently that one can't be an escort and have one's life in order. The best working ladies I've met have their lives in incredible order; they are smart, organized and competent at dealing with whatever is thrown their way. Admittedly its normal for women to get involved because of extreme circumstances in their life (the need for money overwhelmingly) but that doesn't necessarily mean that their lives aren't under control. In the same vein of thought, many women continue because of the flexibility and money, long after the original chaos of financial need has disappeared or been reduced.

I argue the opposite: the more together an escort's life the better the experience for the client. Sex with someone who is content and truly wanting to be there will always be more fun than someone who feels 'forced' through circumstance to make her way through an hour.

Escorting can be done in a healthy way and having your life in order doesn't necessarily mean NOT being an escort. This is just your definition of having an ordered life and many women do not share your point of view.

 

[dreamblade]

Kareena, while I don't agree with you that the more messed up a client's life is the better for SPs, my respect for you shot up after your first post. Specifically, I think you make a very important point about these women putting themselves out there and that particularly for the ones demonstrating distress the last thing they need to is be made to feel stupid or 'less than'.

The fascination with which people observe these issues reminds me of people slowing down to see a car crash despite being in the opposite lane. Finding entertainment or judging someone's misfortunes and poor decisions is the hobby of someone who doesn't have anything better to do.



I find this pretty offensive. I disagree vehemently that one can't be an escort and have one's life in order. The best working ladies I've met have their lives in incredible order; they are smart, organized and competent at dealing with whatever is thrown their way. Admittedly its normal for women to get involved because of extreme circumstances in their life (the need for money overwhelmingly) but that doesn't necessarily mean that their lives aren't under control. In the same vein of thought, many women continue because of the flexibility and money, long after the original chaos of financial need has disappeared or been reduced.

I argue the opposite: the more together an escort's life the better the experience for the client. Sex with someone who is content and truly wanting to be there will always be more fun than someone who feels 'forced' through circumstance to make her way through an hour.

Escorting can be done in a healthy way and having your life in order doesn't necessarily mean NOT being an escort. This is just your definition of having an ordered life and many women do not share your point of view.

Nicely put.

 

[GG2]

The best working ladies I've met have their lives in incredible order; they are smart, organized and competent at dealing with whatever is thrown their way.

There are always exceptions. I know of several myself.

Sex with someone who is content and truly wanting to be there will always be more fun than someone who feels 'forced' through circumstance to make her way through an hour.

Nobody truly wants to have sex with lots of random unattractive people. If you've got yourself down to a few regulars that you are attracted to or have chemistry with, who pay you for sex and you only see them, then you're more or less in sugardaddy relationships, rather than escorting.

 

[Hiding]

There are always exceptions. I know of several myself.

I know several exceptions as well but they are just that: exceptions.

Nobody truly wants to have sex with lots of random unattractive people. If you've got yourself down to a few regulars that you are attracted to or have chemistry with, who pay you for sex and you only see them, then you're more or less in sugardaddy relationships, rather than escorting.

I understand what you're saying about not wanting to have sex with someone one finds unattractive.

I'd suggest that attraction may not matter to some people and those that consider it important are able to find many people attractive in an array of ways. Attraction is a million different things: the way someone shapes their vowels, the complexity of of someone's thoughts, the way they touch, their passions and interests, the way someone carries themselves... Most of what makes someone attractive isn't available on first glance or within the first few sentences of an exchange.

There are so many new things to learn, viewpoints to hear, sexual styles to explore and fascinating things about everyone that its difficult to find someone who is thoroughly unattractive. Of course this requires an open mind and willingness to engage but are those not hallmarks of an excellent escort?

It is these women I am thinking of when I said I disagreed with your previous statement.

 

[DELETDrileydaniels]

I thought I would give this thread a read before it’s gets too many pages. What has happened on the other board has turned into quiet of a circus. I can relate a bit as to why someone would post their business on a board like this because of the fact it’s not like we can easily talk about this type of work and what we do with civilian folks.

But with all that was published it does make you wonder why an SP would be in that kind of situation makes me wonder how are they managing their money and where the money is going. Yes the money can sometimes come into your hands pretty quickly and disappear pretty quickly but that is no excuse for poor money management skills.

This job without solid support systems in place can really bite you in the ass. There are very few support services out there that are non-judgemental towards sex workers and the dynamic of making friends with other SPs is extremely hard.

 

[Victoria~Catherina]

Well said !!!

 

[simon482]

I appreciate the thought that went into this post. So true. Two thumbs up.

i just tried to message you a compliment and i could. so now you get no compliment.

 

[Hiding]

I like how everyone takes this uneducated response seriously. I'm a married man, with a career and a beautiful family that I love dearly. My life is soo fucked up. As opposed to... Yours?

Client related stresses or family related stresses are not better for SPs. It can lead to violence against SP. Your post doesn't make sense anyway so I won't continue, I'll just leave it at that. Take a sociology course or something.

I took that response seriously because she said exactly what you did in the first sentence of your second paragraph in response to someone else's post. I understand being offended by the statement about clients and I don't agree with her on that, but in general she stood up to a post that offended her about as equally as her sentence offended you.

I get that it is easily taken as insulting (and I am insulted on behalf of my "clients") but I really don't know that your attacks on her person are justified.

 

[GG2]

There are so many new things to learn, viewpoints to hear, sexual styles to explore and fascinating things about everyone that its difficult to find someone who is thoroughly unattractive.

Of course this requires an open mind and willingness to engage but are those not hallmarks of an excellent escort?

The hallmark of an excellent escort is the ability to grin and bear it for an allotted time. I don't believe for a moment that you find something attractive about every guy that books a half hour session with you. How fascinating is it for you to watch a stranger walk in, take a shower, whip out his cock, blow his load, and leave? C'mon now.

 

[simon482]

How fascinating is it for you to watch a stranger walk in, take a shower, whip out his cock, blow his load, and leave? C'mon now.

i asked my ex that and she told me she didn't have them all take showers.

 

[GG2]

Lol!

 

[Bigj42]

The hallmark of an excellent escort is the ability to grin and bear it for an allotted time. I don't believe for a moment that you find something attractive about every guy that books a half hour session with you. How fascinating is it for you to watch a stranger walk in, take a shower, whip out his cock, blow his load, and leave? C'mon now.

I don't think being able to grin and bear it is the hallmark of an excellent escort. I'd imagine that most escorts who are considered excellent by their clients are the ones that try to make a connection with their client and make them feel
comfortable. Any escort that is just trying to grin and bear it each time they see someone probably doesn't last long as an escort.

I hope those aren't the type of experiences you are having with escorts and if it is you probably aren't enjoying yourself too much with them.