is he like the dude that did the documentary that he was at peace with bears and a member of their community, then a bear ate him.
Coyote Attack
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You have a good grasp of reality, but might put a lot more faith in said dog face to face with a coyote. He would be very much more a deterrent as coyotes are really smart and will take on easier prey. It is easier on vet bills as well.
What should be in the Star
What should be in The Toronto Star but an article on Eastern Coyote genetics
http://www.thestar.com/news/article/1122444--when-is-a-coyote-not-a-coyote-when-it-s-also-a-wolf
What should be in The Toronto Star but an article on Eastern Coyote genetics
http://www.thestar.com/news/article/1122444--when-is-a-coyote-not-a-coyote-when-it-s-also-a-wolf
Good article. The one point that stuck out with me was realizing that he was a problem and as it stands now no clear jurisdictional process. i ran into this problem in the Ottawa Valley , with the MNR, Regional animal control and the Police all saying, not our job.
It certainly would give a pack second thought, but in time 'a pack' would learn how to deal with 'one' such dog. A guard dog is a double edge sword. considering t the number of incident you might have over a few years the number one job of such adog would be companion and how could you resist hugging a big ball of fur like that.
Other breeds like that are the Ioujnorousskaïa Ovtcharka, Komondor, Kuvasz, and Akbash.
They are all livestock guard dogs.
They are all livestock guard dogs.
Not news at all. I was talking with a naturalist years ago about this. Unfortunately us humans are making it easy for these animals (and racoons, and campsite bears, and ...) to be successful so we are left with little choice but to kill them off.
Despite what is seen in movies, wolves are incredibly timid around humans but coyotes and their hybrid don't have those issues.
I've had a couple of friend who've had Kovasz and they were great big teddy bears. Komodors just make me laugh, but with respect.
I had a neighbour tell me the son was thinkng to get a Tosa as he'd heard amazing things about it, but the love affair lasted about six months.
I looking up info on the Ovtcharka, I found these 2 interesting video. It's always fun to see these comparisons.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u842Fn8xCAg&feature=player_detailpage#t=3s
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u842Fn8xCAg&feature=player_detailpage#t=3s" target="_blank">[video=youtube;WULB0LcRMJ0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=WULB0LcRMJ0#t=13 s[/video]
The CC is an handful that need constant supervision and control. Not what I would call a farm dog. Coyotes don't normally work in packs, but the recent events noted in and around the GTA show this changing, especially if the wolf cross become a factor. Herd dogs like the ones mentioned previously make better farm dog. Even the Shiloh Shepherd might do better. As an owner of such a guard dogs, you take on a great deal of responsibility. The lawyers among us can fill you in on it. A 'nuclear' dog can be big trouble. As far as human intruders, unless the dog is heavily trained, all it takes is drugged meat to deal with them in short order, trancs' if they respect dogs, worse if they don't. What you should want is a loud alarm dog. The loudest dog bark I've ever heard belongs to a Bouvier and the dog is big enough to handle many situations.
Two dogs will be safer than one by himself. If you have no other prey animals to attract coyotes (chickens etc) the two dogs should be fine. If you are worried about them at night or when you're away, bring the dogs in to sleep or build them a very secure run (with the fence buried several feet beneath the surface of the ground).
And buy a shotgun or two.
And buy a shotgun or two.
Not really related, but at Kilbear park near Parry Sound this last summer, the park Ranger warned us about Timberwolves have moved southerly into the area. That is only a 2 hour drive away. I know they were much more common near Sudbury and the Soo. But that is getting awfully close to the gta.
There are always exceptions to the rule but wolves are unlikely to attack people and generally don't mess with dogs from the livestock protection breeds (they generally don't get into it with wolves, just their barking is enough that the wolves say there are easier pickings elsewhere). These Eastern Coyotes are another matter entirely.
LOL!!!!
Blackrock and Rockslinger both yipping and howling about "maybe" and "never seen it myself" !
Talking about shit they know nothing about!
Here is a pictoral representation of their typical posts in any thread...
.... and of course you know this how? Not that I'm expecting an answer. You've really making it a regular habit with these drive by fruitings and they've been missed somewhat in recent weeks, no not really. More snaps from the family photo albums I see.
Speaking of wolves, some of our fellow TERBIEs were raised by wolves. Most of their posts are offensive and insulting but good for amusement sometimes, especially when 2 TERBIEs raised by wolves exchange posts with each other. So hilarious. Hee, hee, hee.
I think coyotes should be removed or culled from urban areas. They are a very smart predator and are quickly getting familiar with humans and eventually children will be killed..... but I guess we are just waiting for that to happen before acting.
Live in the boonies. See/hear Coyotes all the time. They are pretty cool animals, they eat the shit out of field mice/moles/snakes/birds nests etc. Rarely see them pack up during the day, but at night they tend to pack up, chatter to each other. They can be a serious problem to sheep ranchers, have been known to take down young calves, but generally are fairly harmless. Years back we used to hunt them generally using a .243, but now with all the city folk moving up our way it is very difficult to use a high calibre weapon in the not so open fields. Nice gun to take them down at a shorter distance is a .177 calibre, no noise, shoots fast, and for a little bullet makes a big impact.
