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The U.S.A. Will Be Number 3

Rockslinger

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Read in the Saturday Star that the U.S.A. will be number 3 economically by the year 2050. Oh well, economics isn't everything.
 

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By 2050 #1 will be Iraq and #2 will be Saudi Arabia. By then they
would be the world's only two remaining oil exporters and the black gold
will have long become affordable to only the filthy rich. My prediction is
contingent on SA and Iraq surviving future U.S. invasion.
 

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I call BS

If this refers to my post I sincerely wish you are right and I am wrong.
Compassion for humanity compels me to keep my hope that Uncle Sam
will remain the leader of the free world for the rest of the century.
 

Tangwhich

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If this refers to my post I sincerely wish you are right and I am wrong.
Who knows about the top 3 economies, but your part about oil being super expensive is pretty much a guarantee. In a few decades we'll have an oil crisis that will dwarf the current financial crisis.
 

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I think that shows optimism that countries will remain as they are over the next 40 years or so.
 

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By 2050 #1 will be Iraq and #2 will be Saudi Arabia. By then they
would be the world's only two remaining oil exporters and the black gold
will have long become affordable to only the filthy rich. My prediction is
contingent on SA and Iraq surviving future U.S. invasion.
I very much doubt that. I don't have alot of faith in the human population's ability to move forward in the long-term, what with all the intolerance towards different beliefs, political grandstanding and corruption, and an ever-increasing population. If we don't find a new resource with the ability to duplicate fossil fuels I can easily see major strife erupting. If Iraq and Saudi Arabia are the last bastions of oil sources, they better beef up their defense.

I imagine the Star listed India and China as vying for the top two spots, right?
 

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This will happen if we let BIG OIL continue to dictate to us and control energy policy as they have!
If alternative energy was taken seriously and developed we would NOT be held hostage to the BIG OIL Robber Barrons. The easiest way to break free is move towards fueling our vehicles with natural gas. North America had more NG than Saudi Arabia has oil. Detroit COULD ramp up production of vehicles running on NG in a year of two. The only thing needed is to build NG fueling stations which also could be done in a year or two.
If this WAS done the price of oil would drop like a rock!

Besides CNG, there is LPG, alcohol, electricity, hydrogen, just to mention a few other alternative energy sources that should be developed in earnest. The USA put a man on the moon in less than 10 yrs using pollution free hydrogen when they put their mind to it. It is ridiculous the same can't been done to break free of the grip of BIG OIL Robber Barrons. The FACT this hasn't been done only demonstrates the vast power BIG OIL has over Government energy policy!
 

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why wouldn't the world move on to another source of energy by 2050? Was that sited in the article ?
Oil does more than just fuel transportation. It's a part of virtually everything we touch. I don't believe that most people have a clue just how much our lives revolve around oil. It's difficult to imagine that we could replace something so valuable, so essential to our way of lives without an incredible amount of R&D. Right now there's precious little of that going on. The disaster ahead is so monumental that it seems nobody wants to be the first to sound the alarm.
 

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If this refers to my post I sincerely wish you are right and I am wrong.
Compassion for humanity compels me to keep my hope that Uncle Sam
will remain the leader of the free world for the rest of the century.
Yeah I was calling BS on your post. Only because the top 2 economies could be and in all likely will be China & India. There is no way Iraq and Saudi Arabia will be the top 2 economies of the world. Look at Kuwait as an example. Much if not all of the nationals are wealthy but a single resource(even 1 as valuable as oil)economy will not make them the largest economies in the world. China/India/U.S. will have more diverse economies than Iraq/SA and that's why they'll be the top 3 come 2050.
 
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oil&gas

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China/India/U.S. all will have more diverse economies than Iraq/SA and that's why
they'll be the top 3 come 2050.
What you said could indeed turn out to be true if only the future Chindia economy is
one fueled by an energy source other than oil. If there is one country in the world with
the capability to convert its entire energy infrastructure to one running on renewable
energy it is the U.S. not China or India. Apparently the U.S. is lacking the will power
and political leadership to wean itself off the dependence on oil and I can't see how
China and India can survive a post oil world.
 

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The birth rate in the west has fallen to unsustainably low levels.
The only ones having lots of kiddies are those whos culture didn't create such wealth.

The whole West is f**ked.

May you live in interesting times.
 

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The birth rate in the west has fallen to unsustainably low levels.
The only ones having lots of kiddies are those whos culture didn't create such wealth.

The whole West is f**ked.

May you live in interesting times.
The whole world is f**ked. The West's current economic systems can only be supported by a growing population and the East's population is growing so fast that many aren't provided for. We need moderate growth across the board.
 

Rockslinger

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Guys, Canada will have developed the Canadian Arctic and all the natural resources that lies beneath by 2050. Canada will likely be the richest country per capita. I think that China is already #2 right now and with its huge population base could realistically be #1 in the near future as it was in the past.

I don't place much faith in 40 year projections. I saw projections in the 1980's that said Japan would own the world by 2011. So, I take the Toronto Star article with a bit of salt.
 

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