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blackrock13 said:
You must have been worked over really badly by some teacher or preacher in your earlier years to be this adamant to constantly barrage us with these water torture reports of isolated misdoings by small time religious groups or individuals and offer little else. No one on the BB has ever said these individuals or organization don't exist, but they are nowhere near as prevalent as you are trying to make people believe.

Drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip. Whatever float your boat, but all your doing is digging the hole you choose to live in bigger.
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So it takes someone buggered by a priest to dismantle the stupid lies of religion? I guess Karl Marx was buggered, then?

If you're so certain of "God's Plan" why wouldn't you put up your feet on this thread? Or do you feel you're doing "God's work" in attacking those who question religion's vice grip on society? Especially when you have a marathon poster like you who literally spends his entire day and night on the computer, posting like a black(rock) hole machine. Can you blame the guy?

It's not all about you, Blackrock. More than 20,000 page views, lots of interest in this thread, many changed minds no doubt. I found lots of canada-man's links fantastic. You not as much? Hmm.
 
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friedrice said:
So it takes someone buggered by a priest to dismantle the stupid lies of religion? I guess Karl Marx was buggered, then?

If you're so certain of "God's Plan" why wouldn't you put up your feet on this thread? Or do you feel you're doing "God's work" in attacking those who question religion's vice grip on society? Especially when you have a marathon poster like you who literally spends his entire day and night on the computer, posting like a black(rock) hole machine. Can you blame the guy?

It's not all about you, Blackrock. More than 20,000 page views, lots of interest in this thread, many changed minds no doubt. I found lots of canada-man's links fantastic. You not as much? Hmm.
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Please show us where I said CM was buggered.

The no way in hell, if you believe in hell, can anyone with half a brain draw a parallel between CM and Karl Marx. Marx could read, write, and carry on a logical conversation/debate; CM falls flat on all these points and proves it every week.

As for the 'God's plan', I said earlier someone has a difficult time recognizing sarcasm. As I've also said before you are so late to this dance. My stance on God and religious believe has been post a few times. Pay attention will you, or enjoy your review of my 300+post in this thread. I'm not planning on a review just for you. 20,000 views, but only ~100 contributors of whom over 70 contributed single digit posts. not what I would call lots of interested people, considering the thread is over a year old. I'm glad you can tell how many members have changed their views. Please tell us how you come to that claim; not going to hold my breath though. The fact you don't find my threads fantastic is not going to keep me awake at night. My opposition and distain for his utter hatred of religion, read Christianity, and it's followers beyond logic is only exceeded by his lack of knowledge of the subject. This has been shown over and over and over, by other members far more knowledgeable than I. So it not just me.
 
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You can argue over anything. Anything. There's no tiny nitpick on this board that doesn't escape your endlessly suspended gaze in front of your monitor.

You are just one of those people for whom quantity substitutes for quality, talking about rather than experiencing. You've convinced yourself that if you just keep posting, posting, posting, niggling, you'll feed your own certainty.

Me personally I actually rather naively hoped for some time that this place could be a place of lively discussion. Instead we have people like you who don't persuade, but hound, hound, hound until people want to strangle you.

I guess it's true I don't get your sarcasm because I find you a bore, and I bet you'd be even worse in "real life."

I promise not to argue with you anymore on anything. I broke my rule with the Scouts thread where you and RLD and Old Jones hounded me because I give a shit about the defenceless ahead of organizations that harbor pedophiles. Silly me. Lesson learned.

Here comes you getting the last word, as always, in 4-3-2-1 ....
 
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friedrice said:
You can argue over anything. Anything. There's no tiny nitpick on this board that doesn't escape your endlessly suspended gaze in front of your monitor.

You are just one of those people for whom quantity substitutes for quality, talking about rather than experiencing. You've convinced yourself that if you just keep posting, posting, posting, niggling, you'll feed your own certainty.

Me personally I actually rather naively hoped for some time that this place could be a place of lively discussion. Instead we have people like you who don't persuade, but hound, hound, hound until people want to strangle you.

I guess it's true I don't get your sarcasm because I find you a bore, and I bet you'd be even worse in "real life."

I promise not to argue with you anymore on anything. I broke my rule with the Scouts thread where you and RLD and Old Jones hounded me because I give a shit about the defenceless ahead of organizations that harbor pedophiles. Silly me. Lesson learned.

Here comes you getting the last word, as always, in 4-3-2-1 ....
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Oh, horse shit, feel better now.

Good heavens don't let actual facts get in the way of a good discussion. As far as my needing to get the last word, you obviously missed the same clam from WWG and proven wrong more than once.

Hounded? Damn straight, especially if you post shite. I'm not letting some stuff on here not get challenged, as someone will think it true.
 
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Is Richard Dawkins so upset about the behavour of other ancient civilizations? Or is it only Ancient Israel which upsets him?
 
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friedrice said:
You can argue over anything. Anything. There's no tiny nitpick on this board that doesn't escape your endlessly suspended gaze in front of your monitor.

You are just one of those people for whom quantity substitutes for quality, talking about rather than experiencing. You've convinced yourself that if you just keep posting, posting, posting, niggling, you'll feed your own certainty.

Me personally I actually rather naively hoped for some time that this place could be a place of lively discussion. Instead we have people like you who don't persuade, but hound, hound, hound until people want to strangle you.

I guess it's true I don't get your sarcasm because I find you a bore, and I bet you'd be even worse in "real life."

I promise not to argue with you anymore on anything. I broke my rule with the Scouts thread where you and RLD and Old Jones hounded me because I give a shit about the defenceless ahead of organizations that harbor pedophiles. Silly me. Lesson learned.

Here comes you getting the last word, as always, in 4-3-2-1 ....
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Since precision is not your forte let me correct you on misquoting me...again.

I did not criticize you because you suggest that victims should come ahead of organizations in abuse situations.

I criticized you for suggesting that organizations should be burned down, etc because of the actions of some of their members.

Then I criticized you for demanding that settlements should all be public, when in many cases it is victims who want the privacy (there is a reason SOC's can be issued with initials you know...).

Then I further called you hysterical when you thought the best way to change my mind was by asking me to abandon all reason and embrace unthinking anger by suggesting the way to develop a solution to the problem of institutional child abuse was by imagining someone close to me being raped.

Just thought there might be some value in getting our facts straight.
 
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friedrice said:
Great, point me to any post of yours on TERB condemning the Catholic Church for the way it has handled the sexual abuse scandal. RLD dismissed this absolutely horrifying BBC documentary on Ratzinger and sex abuse, which told me everything I needed to know about him, so tell me what you think. :thumb:
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You are an odd chap FR. Firstly, I don't see why you feel the need to drag me into every discussion you have with BR. If you can't tell us apart, than you are stupid.

And I did not dismiss the documentary, I made comments about it, some of them critical. Please show me where I dismissed it. I look forward to you backing up your allegations.
 
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Why I refuse to debate with William Lane Craig
This Christian 'philosopher' is an apologist for genocide. I would rather leave an empty chair than share a platform with him
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Now as we know, CM refuses to show both sides of a story if it doesn't support his worldview (one that apparently just adores Catholic Peace Movements as his guilty pleasure.) But the paper that published the original article did post a counter argument, and to be fair I thought I should at least post the link, because you know CM never will...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentis...hard-dawkins-william-lane-craig?newsfeed=true
 
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canada-man said:
the pharmacist should be fired unlike you i don't have respect for religious nutcases not doing their duties they are hired to do. would you still support this cultist if she won't cell condoms to people are not married?
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Yes.

And I still notice that you like to pretend your support for the Catholic Peace Movement did not occur. I guess you believe if you pretend it did not happen long enough...it will go away.
 
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then how comes secularism emerged AFTER Christianity and the Churches lose thier political power and thier grip of the population? a Canadian example is Quebec before the Quiet Revolution where the Roman Catholic Church was de facto in charge
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Did you actually read the review and get the message? It makes no comment about the timing of the rise of secularism or anything related to it?
 
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Inciting hate towards non-believers

Hate All Non-Jews, Skvere Rabbis Say

A recently published book written by a Skvere hasidic rabbi and endorsed by the Skvere Rebbe himself tells Skvere hasidim and other Jews to hate all gentiles. Gentiles are wholly evil, the book says. They spiritually pollute the world, and even looking at their faces is harmful.



The book is called Yalkut Shaiylos u'Teshuvos. As the title indicates, it is a collection of questions and answers on halakhic topics. The questions were asked by young Skvere yeshiva students in New Square, New York. The answers are rabbinic.

The section translated below is titled, "Goyyim" and it explains the Skvere hasidic view of non-Jews, citing among other sources, the Skvere Rebbe himself.

The anti-gentile hatred is based on rabbinic sources. Those sources are heavily influenced by kabbalah and by hasidic thought.

A similar attitude toward non-Jews can be found in the Tanya, the so-called bible of Chabad hasidic thought written by the first rebbe of Chabad, Schneur Zalman of Liadi, and reprinted thousands of times by Chabad worldwide.

http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/failed_messiahcom/2011/11/hate-non-jews-skvere-rabbis-say-234.html
 
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canada-man said:
Inciting hate towards non-believers

Hate All Non-Jews, Skvere Rabbis Say

A recently published book written by a Skvere hasidic rabbi and endorsed by the Skvere Rebbe himself tells Skvere hasidim and other Jews to hate all gentiles. Gentiles are wholly evil, the book says. They spiritually pollute the world, and even looking at their faces is harmful.



The book is called Yalkut Shaiylos u'Teshuvos. As the title indicates, it is a collection of questions and answers on halakhic topics. The questions were asked by young Skvere yeshiva students in New Square, New York. The answers are rabbinic.

The section translated below is titled, "Goyyim" and it explains the Skvere hasidic view of non-Jews, citing among other sources, the Skvere Rebbe himself.

The anti-gentile hatred is based on rabbinic sources. Those sources are heavily influenced by kabbalah and by hasidic thought.

A similar attitude toward non-Jews can be found in the Tanya, the so-called bible of Chabad hasidic thought written by the first rebbe of Chabad, Schneur Zalman of Liadi, and reprinted thousands of times by Chabad worldwide.

http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/failed_messiahcom/2011/11/hate-non-jews-skvere-rabbis-say-234.html
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Drip, drip, drip, drip, drip.

You can't defend what you post sooooooooo, you post another pile of dung.
 
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canada-man said:
Inciting hate towards non-believers

Hate All Non-Jews, Skvere Rabbis Say

A recently published book written by a Skvere hasidic rabbi and endorsed by the Skvere Rebbe himself tells Skvere hasidim and other Jews to hate all gentiles. Gentiles are wholly evil, the book says. They spiritually pollute the world, and even looking at their faces is harmful.



The book is called Yalkut Shaiylos u'Teshuvos. As the title indicates, it is a collection of questions and answers on halakhic topics. The questions were asked by young Skvere yeshiva students in New Square, New York. The answers are rabbinic.

The section translated below is titled, "Goyyim" and it explains the Skvere hasidic view of non-Jews, citing among other sources, the Skvere Rebbe himself.

The anti-gentile hatred is based on rabbinic sources. Those sources are heavily influenced by kabbalah and by hasidic thought.

A similar attitude toward non-Jews can be found in the Tanya, the so-called bible of Chabad hasidic thought written by the first rebbe of Chabad, Schneur Zalman of Liadi, and reprinted thousands of times by Chabad worldwide.

http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/failed_messiahcom/2011/11/hate-non-jews-skvere-rabbis-say-234.html
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The sad thing about your approach CM is that you use the exact same method as many racists do. You take the most extreme example of the worst type of individual (assuming any of this is accurate because your source sure looks like another anonymous blogger with an axe to grind) and then apply it to the whole group.

It would be like a white power goof posting an article about Jake Bird and saying that blacks are bad.

Failed reasoning, negative generalizations and stereotypes. You use the whole bigot's tool box.
 
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