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"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." Sinclair Lewis 1935.




Religious Lobby on the Rise
by Michael Beckel

The religious lobby is on the rise, according to a new study by the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life.

The number of religious organizations playing the influence game in Washington has swelled since 1970, according to the Pew study. In 1970, less than 40 groups were involved with lobbying or advocacy efforts. Now, that number has risen to more than 200.

The Pew report notes that lobbying for the faithful is often a multi-million-dollar prerogative.

Pew estimated that more than 200 groups currently spend a combined nearly $400 million a year on lobbying and advocacy work.

As OpenSecrets Blog has previously noted, only some of this is directly disclosed to Congress in the form of regular lobbying reports.

When Congress passed the Lobbying Disclosure Act in 1995, it provided for a few exceptions to disclosure rules, including lobbying communications made by a “church, its integrated auxiliary or a convention or association of churches that is exempt from filing a federal income tax return," as well as a "religious order."

The only instances in which a church must disclose its lobbying is if it spends a “substantial” amount of money on lobbying, if more than 20 percent of its lobbyist’s income is from direct lobbying on behalf of the church or if it hires an outside lobbying firm.

Then, the hired firm is required to disclose that it has lobbied on behalf of a religious institution.

The “substantial” test is a murky one, with little enforcement of it, and as is the 20 percent rule, unless attention is drawn to the organization.

Nevertheless, research by the Center for Responsive Politics shows that lobbying by religious organizations frequently exceeds $1 million a year.

In 2007, the highest year on record, 34 religious groups spent a combined $3.7 million on lobbying and hired 108 lobbyists, according to the Center's research.

During the first three quarters of this year, 23 religious groups spent a combined $1.7 million on lobbying and hired 68 lobbyists, according to the Center's research.

http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2011/11/21-4
 

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Some of the big religious groups to report lobbying so far this year include the Friends Committee on National Legislation, and the Knights of Columbus (also Scientology)Wycliffe Bible Translators, The United Methodist Church, The Episcopal Church, World Vision, The (R.C.) Society of Jesus, The Ecumenical Patriarchate, International Buddhism Sangha Associations, and The Evangelical Lutheran Church in America.

Gee and most of them probably support positions you argue for here on TERB!

If you really wanted to be upset it should probably be over the fact that many of them lobby for positions about which many or most of their members disagree.
 

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intolerance against non-believers!


Jehovah's Witnesses Spend Thanksgiving Knocking on Doors

Jehovah's Witnesses don't celebrate Thanksgiving. Instead, members of the religious sect take the day to increase their door-to-door evangelism.

"Since it's a holiday from the secular viewpoint, people have time off, so usually families and individuals will put forth extra effort in the ministry to go door to door," said Jagdish Patel, an elder with a Kingdom Hall in Jackson Heights, Queens.

He said the number of witnesses from his congregation canvassing city streets skyrockets on holidays.

"Usually, on the weekdays, there will be a group of 8 to 10 people going out in the service," he said. "But on holidays, it can be 30, 40."

Witnesses from the Jackson Heights congregation walk 80 territories in that neighborhood, as well as in Astoria. Each territory is comprised of three to four blocks.

Jehovah's witnesses do not celebrate national or religious holidays or birthdays.

The only day they do memorialize is Jesus Christ's death around the time of Easter and Passover.


http://www.wnyc.org/blogs/wnyc-news...ovahs-witnesses-bump-evangelism-thanksgiving/
 

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intolerance against non-believers!


Jehovah's Witnesses Spend Thanksgiving Knocking on Doors

Jehovah's Witnesses don't celebrate Thanksgiving. Instead, members of the religious sect take the day to increase their door-to-door evangelism.

"Since it's a holiday from the secular viewpoint, people have time off, so usually families and individuals will put forth extra effort in the ministry to go door to door," said Jagdish Patel, an elder with a Kingdom Hall in Jackson Heights, Queens.

He said the number of witnesses from his congregation canvassing city streets skyrockets on holidays.

"Usually, on the weekdays, there will be a group of 8 to 10 people going out in the service," he said. "But on holidays, it can be 30, 40."

Witnesses from the Jackson Heights congregation walk 80 territories in that neighborhood, as well as in Astoria. Each territory is comprised of three to four blocks.

Jehovah's witnesses do not celebrate national or religious holidays or birthdays.

The only day they do memorialize is Jesus Christ's death around the time of Easter and Passover.


http://www.wnyc.org/blogs/wnyc-news...ovahs-witnesses-bump-evangelism-thanksgiving/

You really are a buffoon, an ignorant pure hater and desperate to find something that even slightly supports your position. I've have members of the JW's as part of my extended family and they are some of the nicest relatives I have. We simply agree to disagree on some aspects of life. Yes the JW's have some shortcomings, but they aren't evil uncaring miscreants.

By the way, you seem to have failed big time with your easy homework assignment. Clearly church and school based child abuse isn't as prevalent as you claimed and would like the world to believe. Talk about intolerance and ignorance human being.
 

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You really are a buffoon, an ignorant pure hater and desperate to find something that even slightly supports your position. I've have members of the JW's as part of my extended family and they are some of the nicest relatives I have. We simply agree to disagree on some aspects of life. Yes the JW's have some shortcomings, but they aren't evil uncaring miscreants.

By the way, you seem to have failed big time with your easy homework assignment. Clearly church and school based child abuse isn't as prevalent as you claimed and would like the world to believe. Talk about intolerance and ignorance human being.
unlike you i have a life outside this forum. which is why i was not here in the past few days

knocking on people's doors uninvited especially when they are celebrating a holiday with family and friends telling them they are wrong and they will suffer eternal damnation unless they join their cult is offensive, dehumanizing and insulting.


and here is some recent news

Former Pastor Arrested For Solicitation Of Minor

http://greenevillesun.com/Local_New...-Arrested-For-Solicitation-Of-Minor-id-317116


Women say Smyrna church shunned them after they accused pastor of theft

A woman says she is being ostracized for coming forward with new allegations against Rickey Alan Reed, a Smyrna pastor accused of breaking into church members’ homes for drugs.

“I’ve been in that church since I was about 8 years old,” said Kimberly Cannon, 48, who lives in Rutherford County. “We were all close. Now it just seems like they don’t want to have anything to do with us.”

Cannon called the Rutherford County Sheriff’s Office earlier this month to say that Reed, 55, who was pastor of 1st Free Methodist Church in Smyrna, may have stolen her pain medication. She’s at least the second person to accuse him of that, the first having caught him on video trying to break into her Smyrna home.


http://www.tennessean.com/article/2...-shunned-them-after-they-accused-pastor-theft

Priest charged with sexual assault on child

http://www.ourcoloradonews.com/cast...cle_5277f13e-fe18-597b-b0f5-e26e215cdc7b.html


HENDERSON, KY (WAVE) - The congregation of a western Kentucky church is trying to move forward after their youth minister was arrested on sex abuse charges.

John Brothers, Junior, the associate pastor and minister to students at Hyland Baptist Church in Henderson, was arrested on November 18. Church officials say 42-year-old Brothers, who had worked at the church for three years, resigned November 11.

Brothers remains behind bars as the church. The church is searching for a new associate pastor.

http://www.wave3.com/story/16096815/youth-minister-arrested-on-sex-abuse-charges


La. priest arrested on charge of stealing at least $250,000 in church money

http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/1a8bb1892e65462da395eabb126ae849/LA--Priest-Arrested/
 

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I could be wrong but I think the last story is about a thief and the Northern Territory story was not about child abuse, which was your claim and your assignment. I think you already posted that Port Elizabeth story. Again proof you have a problem with english and now you are even repeating yourself.

The JW's must have you marked for hell. It's been years since they knocked on my front door.
 

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knocking on people's doors uninvited especially when they are celebrating a holiday with family and friends telling them thwaey are wrong and they will suffer eternal damnation unless they join their cult is offensive, dehumanizing and insulting.
It is annoying, however, I have never had a Jehovah's Witness tell me I was going to suffer eternal damnation, in part because I politely say no thank you, and if the persist ask them why they are engaging in "sheep stealing."
 

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Priest charged with sexual assault on child

the associate pastor and minister to students at Hyland Baptist Church

La. priest arrested on charge of stealing at least $250,000 in church money

http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/1a8bb1892e65462da395eabb126ae849/LA--Priest-Arrested/
Priest at a Baptist Church! (Yes, I know you will attempt BS your way out of this as well).

La. priest arrested on charge of stealing at least $250,000 in church money
Now we can see why you didn't bother to post the actual story.

A Roman Catholic priest who was the pastor of a Natchitoches church has been arrested on a charge he stole more than $250,000 in church funds.

The Louisiana State Police says Father James Foster was booked into the Natchitoches Parish jail on one count of theft following his arrest Tuesday.

The [Roman Catholic] Diocese of Alexandria says Foster resigned in October as pastor of the Basilica of the Immaculate Conception Church after an analysis of church financial records revealed that a "substantial" amount of money was missing.

State police said it launched an investigation at the diocese's request.

"We are following the Diocese of Alexandria's policy of openness and transparency concerning this matter and all diocesan and church officials are cooperating fully with all civil authorities," Bishop Ronald Herzog said in a statement.


The 66-year-old priest allegedly stole the money by issuing checks to himself and using the church's corporate credit card account.

Police said the theft dates back to January 2008.

A spokeswoman for the diocese said she didn't know if Foster has an attorney.
You have a most peculiar concept of sin if you believe that those in Holy Orders are immune to it.
 

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I didn't expect you to be on here every day but I wonder if that's not the case, yet i did expect you to get five new relevant stories to back you and it's clear you couldn't. More swamp gas rhetoric from the mouth of CM.
 

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religious coercion in the news:

A Hartlepool woman has been refused the morning after pill by a pharmacist on the grounds of “religious conscience”.

The 29 year old woman was reportedly “stunned” and “gobsmacked” when she asked for the pill (for which she had a prescription) and was told that she would have to go to another shop in town as the pharmacist wouldn’t fulfil the prescription because she had religious objections.

The mother says just moments before she was refused the pill, the same member of staff had served methadone to a heroin addict.

The woman, who didn’t want to be named, said she then didn’t get the opportunity to take the pill until two days later because one of her children became ill and she had to take her home immediately. This delay could have made all the difference to the efficacy of the medication.

A spokeswoman for Boots said their employees have the right to exercise a “conscience clause” and decline to serve the patient on religious or ethical grounds.

But Christopher Akers-Belcher, co-ordinator of Hartlepool Local Involuntary Network (LINK), which works to promote and support commissioning, provision and scrutiny of local health and social care services, told the Hartlepool Mail: “If an employee is providing a service, regardless of their beliefs, they are committed to that service which they deliver.”

A spokeswoman for Boots said: “Many Boots stores provide an Emergency Hormonal Contraception (EHC) service in addition to dispensing NHS and private prescriptions for EHC. On a very rare occasion, however, the individual pharmacist may wish to exercise what is known as the ‘conscience clause’ and decline to serve the patient on religious or ethical grounds. If a pharmacist’s religious or moral beliefs prevent him or her from providing a particular service, the General Pharmaceutical Council’s Standard of Conduct, Ethics and Performance states that the pharmacist should refer the patient to other providers.

“We are sorry if this has caused any inconvenience. We will be reviewing the process with the store involved. If a pharmacist on the whole is against giving out contraception they should put a sign up and make women aware.”

Darinka Aleksic, campaign co-ordinator for Abortion Rights, described the situation as “appalling.”

“We think it’s right that women have the right to access contraception. Where push comes to shove, health and well-being must come first.”


http://www.secularism.org.uk/another-woman-refused-morning-af.html
 

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North Carolina church: No more weddings until gay marriage is legalised
by Stephen Gray for PinkNews.co.uk
22 November 2011, 11:30am
Email this Pink News story
The church has historically taken stands on social issuesThe church has historically taken stands on social issues

The progressive Pullen Memorial Baptist Church in Raleigh, North Carolina, has said it will not be holding marriages for anyone until the state legalises same-sex unions.

The Raleigh Observer reports that the congregation voted in favour of the move on Sunday.

They agreed blessings for relationships will still be held, but no official weddings will take place.

The congregants said North Carolina is discriminating against its gay couples “by denying them the rights and privileges enjoyed by heterosexual married couples.”

The church’ statement said: “As people of faith, affirming the Christian teaching that before God all people are equal, we will no longer participate in this discrimination.”

In September, North Carolina’s House of Representatives approved plans for a voter referendum on a gay marriage ban.

Although the state does not recognise gay marriage, the move would enact a constitutional ban on the practice, which would prevent the courts from ruling for marriage equality.

This month, a Democrat sitting in the state’s House of Representatives defended her statement that there was a “special place in hell” for the Republicans who approved the referendum.

The Pullen Memorial Baptist Church has taken action against perceived social injustices since the 1950s. First opposing racial segregation and welcoming black people into the congregation, it later spoke out against the Vietnam War.

The church was critical of the nuclear arms race and the more recent invasion of Iraq.

In 1992 it officially endorsed full involvement of its gay followers.
 

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religious coercion in the news:

A Hartlepool woman has been refused the morning after pill by a pharmacist on the grounds of “religious conscience”.

The 29 year old woman was reportedly “stunned” and “gobsmacked” when she asked for the pill (for which she had a prescription) and was told that she would have to go to another shop in town as the pharmacist wouldn’t fulfil the prescription because she had religious objections.

The mother says just moments before she was refused the pill, the same member of staff had served methadone to a heroin addict.

The woman, who didn’t want to be named, said she then didn’t get the opportunity to take the pill until two days later because one of her children became ill and she had to take her home immediately. This delay could have made all the difference to the efficacy of the medication.

A spokeswoman for Boots said their employees have the right to exercise a “conscience clause” and decline to serve the patient on religious or ethical grounds.

But Christopher Akers-Belcher, co-ordinator of Hartlepool Local Involuntary Network (LINK), which works to promote and support commissioning, provision and scrutiny of local health and social care services, told the Hartlepool Mail: “If an employee is providing a service, regardless of their beliefs, they are committed to that service which they deliver.”

A spokeswoman for Boots said: “Many Boots stores provide an Emergency Hormonal Contraception (EHC) service in addition to dispensing NHS and private prescriptions for EHC. On a very rare occasion, however, the individual pharmacist may wish to exercise what is known as the ‘conscience clause’ and decline to serve the patient on religious or ethical grounds. If a pharmacist’s religious or moral beliefs prevent him or her from providing a particular service, the General Pharmaceutical Council’s Standard of Conduct, Ethics and Performance states that the pharmacist should refer the patient to other providers.

“We are sorry if this has caused any inconvenience. We will be reviewing the process with the store involved. If a pharmacist on the whole is against giving out contraception they should put a sign up and make women aware.”

Darinka Aleksic, campaign co-ordinator for Abortion Rights, described the situation as “appalling.”

“We think it’s right that women have the right to access contraception. Where push comes to shove, health and well-being must come first.”


http://www.secularism.org.uk/another-woman-refused-morning-af.html
Oh my god...she has to go to a different pharmacy! The horror.

Still running and hiding from your Catholic endorsement? I guess we should rename you chicken-man, communist leading from behind!
 

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Oh my god...she has to go to a different pharmacy! The horror.

Still running and hiding from your Catholic endorsement? I guess we should rename you chicken-man, communist leading from behind!
the pharmacist should be fired unlike you i don't have respect for religious nutcases not doing their duties they are hired to do. would you still support this cultist if she won't cell condoms to people are not married?
 

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religious coercion in the news:

A Hartlepool woman has been refused the morning after pill by a pharmacist on the grounds of “religious conscience”.

The 29 year old woman was reportedly “stunned” and “gobsmacked” when she asked for the pill (for which she had a prescription) and was told that she would have to go to another shop in town as the pharmacist wouldn’t fulfil the prescription because she had religious objections.

The mother says just moments before she was refused the pill, the same member of staff had served methadone to a heroin addict.

The woman, who didn’t want to be named, said she then didn’t get the opportunity to take the pill until two days later because one of her children became ill and she had to take her home immediately. This delay could have made all the difference to the efficacy of the medication.

A spokeswoman for Boots said their employees have the right to exercise a “conscience clause” and decline to serve the patient on religious or ethical grounds.

But Christopher Akers-Belcher, co-ordinator of Hartlepool Local Involuntary Network (LINK), which works to promote and support commissioning, provision and scrutiny of local health and social care services, told the Hartlepool Mail: “If an employee is providing a service, regardless of their beliefs, they are committed to that service which they deliver.”

A spokeswoman for Boots said: “Many Boots stores provide an Emergency Hormonal Contraception (EHC) service in addition to dispensing NHS and private prescriptions for EHC. On a very rare occasion, however, the individual pharmacist may wish to exercise what is known as the ‘conscience clause’ and decline to serve the patient on religious or ethical grounds. If a pharmacist’s religious or moral beliefs prevent him or her from providing a particular service, the General Pharmaceutical Council’s Standard of Conduct, Ethics and Performance states that the pharmacist should refer the patient to other providers.

“We are sorry if this has caused any inconvenience. We will be reviewing the process with the store involved. If a pharmacist on the whole is against giving out contraception they should put a sign up and make women aware.”

Darinka Aleksic, campaign co-ordinator for Abortion Rights, described the situation as “appalling.”

“We think it’s right that women have the right to access contraception. Where push comes to shove, health and well-being must come first.”


http://www.secularism.org.uk/another-woman-refused-morning-af.html
Still not child abuse. It's clear you can't deliver proof of what you claimed, but we're used to that.
 
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