If you got an SP pregnant, would you take responsibility for the child?
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Yup. Your point?Wait a minute here, aren't you a self-admitted womanizing slimeball ?
In any relationship, whatever else you do, kids come first. You don't abandon your children. Not if you're a civilized human being. Aside from possibly creating a little sexual jealousy adultery isn't really such a bad thing. I don't HAVE kids, so right now the worst that's going to happen is I'll split up with my wife. Where's the harm? Even if I had kids, and split up with my wife, I would stay an active part in my kids life.
Condemning your children to a life of grinding poverty because you can't man up and take responsibility? Sickening.
Best thing to do gentlemen iis take every precaution to avoid pregnancy & take them seriously
However if that fails, be sure you took every precaution to make it as difficult for her to find you as possible. If you can manage impossible all the better.
In the end, you paid for the experience of intimacy without all the BS & baggage that comes with it & I can't imagine a bigger load of BS or baggage than being stuck paying for an unplanned, unwanted bastard.
She doesn't want to abort? Her body, her choice, HER problem.
She wants to keep a kid under those circumstances? Her kid, her choice, HER problem.
If a circus performer falls & breaks his neck are you on the hook to pay for his chair & ramps? NO it's a risk of the job. The customer pays to be entertained & what happen behind the scenes ain't their problem. Period.
However if that fails, be sure you took every precaution to make it as difficult for her to find you as possible. If you can manage impossible all the better.
In the end, you paid for the experience of intimacy without all the BS & baggage that comes with it & I can't imagine a bigger load of BS or baggage than being stuck paying for an unplanned, unwanted bastard.
She doesn't want to abort? Her body, her choice, HER problem.
She wants to keep a kid under those circumstances? Her kid, her choice, HER problem.
If a circus performer falls & breaks his neck are you on the hook to pay for his chair & ramps? NO it's a risk of the job. The customer pays to be entertained & what happen behind the scenes ain't their problem. Period.
Obviously, the best option would be the morning after pill or an abortion, hands down, no questions asked. I have no desire to be a father right now, nor do I have any desire to financially support a child.
But, if she insists on having the child - and isn't fucking nuts - I'd propose. You know what they say? In for a penny, in for a pound (although I'd be sure to get a solid pre-nup!!)
But, if she insists on having the child - and isn't fucking nuts - I'd propose. You know what they say? In for a penny, in for a pound (although I'd be sure to get a solid pre-nup!!)
What if the performer falls on you as the spectator and both you and him/her break both your necks, are you on the hook to pay for your chair and ramp? Yep, that's the risk you take when you pay to be entertained. Period.
Your analogy of an escort becoming pregnant to a circus performer is mindboggling and beyond my comprehension........it's at an intellect level I'm not familiar with, thus my response, perhaps you can understand it.
This is an interesting question, although I'm not really sure why you want to know what TERBites think about this
It's tricky, because I believe that if a SP does not believe in abortion and will never have one under any circumstance, then they should either not offer FS, or go into a different line of work, unless of course they're okay with raising a child with no support from the father. Pregnancy is an extreme long shot provided condoms are used 100% of the time, but it is a chance that the SP should consider before embarking on this hobby. On one hand, I believe in taking responsibility and owning up to your mistakes, but on the other hand, if condoms are used, and pregnancy occurs, how much responsibility does the guy have? He didn't sign up for a kid, and for the mother to unilaterally decide to have the kid is a bum rap for the dude.
I'll give a quick example. In my last year of university, one of my best friends had a female roommate. She was cool to hang out with, was pretty laid-back, and was into the same nerdy stuff that most of my friends were into. Hence, it wasn't really like she was a 'female roommate', they thought of her like a guy. Unfortunately, although not extremely unattractive, she wasn't anyone's idea of a knockout. Anyway, my friend, who had a reputation for not being discriminating at all when it came to the attractiveness of his sexual partners when he was hammered. came back from the bar hammered one night near the end of the year. She wasn't up to anything that night, just watching TV, and although I don't know (nor do I want to know) the details, when he came home, blind drunk, one thing led to another, and they had sex. They started with a condom, but whiskey dick is a real issue, and the condom was removed. Now she was completely sober throughout the event.
Anyways, turned out, she got pregnant. She refused to get an abortion on religious grounds, which is fine. She also refused to get the morning-after pill, saying she was too 'lazy' to go down to the drugstore. My friend, who was already embarrassed enough at having slept with her, didn't push the issue, which was definitely his fault, and lo, and behold nine months, a beautiful baby girl popped out. He never told any of his friends, (he had moved out of the house, back to Toronto for the summer, and then was back in our university town for a fifth year) for the longest time, but as always, word began to seep out to our social circle, and a bunch of us had a mini-intervention for him. He had never displayed any interest in the kid, was still drinking and sleeping around like most of us, and if we hadn't found out from her, we wouldn't have known. After we confronted him, he told us that the girl was completely cool with him not being involved at all, and was going to move back into her parents house to raise the kid. My friend wasn't present for the birth, but slowly, partly due to peer pressure, and partly due to his realization that if he wanted to pursue a career in law and politics, he had to take some responsibility for this.
I thought I know him pretty well, but I was shocked at his callous attitude at first and judged him for it. Now the baby is three years old, cute as anything, and my friend who is in law school across the country sees her a few times a year. He's taken some responsibility, and although personally I think he has a lot more to do, I realize now that I was stupid to judge him without knowing the full situation and having experienced it myself. Also, I think behaving selfishly, while certainly not laudable, is human and understandable, She knows him as 'daddy' and child support is paid, by his parents now, who are fairly wealthy, although not insane. However, many of us still have a lot of questions, and still think that it wasn't right the way she had the kid without any input from him. Now, obviously my friend bears most of the responsibility since it was him not wearing the condom, and he should have known better. She (the mother) has been pretty cool about not demanding much from him, and is working two jobs to support the kid, though she still lives with her parents
I guess the point of that story is that you can't moralize about this type of thing unless you're in the situation. You would like to think you would do the right thing, but you can't know that for sure unless you're there. Also, you're as much to blame, but also as much at the mercy of the woman, because at the end of the day, it's her call (as it should be) I do think that 99% of SPs do not want to get pregnant, especially since I'm sure many of them want their own kids when they leave the hobby with their partner. Abortion/morning-after pill is likely 99% of the time, I think. Besides let's face it, most of us (myself included) are far less attractive than the SPs we see, so I'm sure they want their baby's father to be hotter than us
And fuiji, I love how you're pretend to be the bastion of morality on this board, when you're an unrepentant cheater. You're right that you can't abandon your children, but call me old-fashioned, I think your wife should be pretty high on that list as well, and unless she knows and approve that you stick your dick in many other women, you're abandoning her by cheating on her. Call me a romantic, but when you betray the trust of someone that you say that you love, you're betraying her, and generally being a piece of shit
It's tricky, because I believe that if a SP does not believe in abortion and will never have one under any circumstance, then they should either not offer FS, or go into a different line of work, unless of course they're okay with raising a child with no support from the father. Pregnancy is an extreme long shot provided condoms are used 100% of the time, but it is a chance that the SP should consider before embarking on this hobby. On one hand, I believe in taking responsibility and owning up to your mistakes, but on the other hand, if condoms are used, and pregnancy occurs, how much responsibility does the guy have? He didn't sign up for a kid, and for the mother to unilaterally decide to have the kid is a bum rap for the dude.
I'll give a quick example. In my last year of university, one of my best friends had a female roommate. She was cool to hang out with, was pretty laid-back, and was into the same nerdy stuff that most of my friends were into. Hence, it wasn't really like she was a 'female roommate', they thought of her like a guy. Unfortunately, although not extremely unattractive, she wasn't anyone's idea of a knockout. Anyway, my friend, who had a reputation for not being discriminating at all when it came to the attractiveness of his sexual partners when he was hammered. came back from the bar hammered one night near the end of the year. She wasn't up to anything that night, just watching TV, and although I don't know (nor do I want to know) the details, when he came home, blind drunk, one thing led to another, and they had sex. They started with a condom, but whiskey dick is a real issue, and the condom was removed. Now she was completely sober throughout the event.
Anyways, turned out, she got pregnant. She refused to get an abortion on religious grounds, which is fine. She also refused to get the morning-after pill, saying she was too 'lazy' to go down to the drugstore. My friend, who was already embarrassed enough at having slept with her, didn't push the issue, which was definitely his fault, and lo, and behold nine months, a beautiful baby girl popped out. He never told any of his friends, (he had moved out of the house, back to Toronto for the summer, and then was back in our university town for a fifth year) for the longest time, but as always, word began to seep out to our social circle, and a bunch of us had a mini-intervention for him. He had never displayed any interest in the kid, was still drinking and sleeping around like most of us, and if we hadn't found out from her, we wouldn't have known. After we confronted him, he told us that the girl was completely cool with him not being involved at all, and was going to move back into her parents house to raise the kid. My friend wasn't present for the birth, but slowly, partly due to peer pressure, and partly due to his realization that if he wanted to pursue a career in law and politics, he had to take some responsibility for this.
I thought I know him pretty well, but I was shocked at his callous attitude at first and judged him for it. Now the baby is three years old, cute as anything, and my friend who is in law school across the country sees her a few times a year. He's taken some responsibility, and although personally I think he has a lot more to do, I realize now that I was stupid to judge him without knowing the full situation and having experienced it myself. Also, I think behaving selfishly, while certainly not laudable, is human and understandable, She knows him as 'daddy' and child support is paid, by his parents now, who are fairly wealthy, although not insane. However, many of us still have a lot of questions, and still think that it wasn't right the way she had the kid without any input from him. Now, obviously my friend bears most of the responsibility since it was him not wearing the condom, and he should have known better. She (the mother) has been pretty cool about not demanding much from him, and is working two jobs to support the kid, though she still lives with her parents
I guess the point of that story is that you can't moralize about this type of thing unless you're in the situation. You would like to think you would do the right thing, but you can't know that for sure unless you're there. Also, you're as much to blame, but also as much at the mercy of the woman, because at the end of the day, it's her call (as it should be) I do think that 99% of SPs do not want to get pregnant, especially since I'm sure many of them want their own kids when they leave the hobby with their partner. Abortion/morning-after pill is likely 99% of the time, I think. Besides let's face it, most of us (myself included) are far less attractive than the SPs we see, so I'm sure they want their baby's father to be hotter than us
And fuiji, I love how you're pretend to be the bastion of morality on this board, when you're an unrepentant cheater. You're right that you can't abandon your children, but call me old-fashioned, I think your wife should be pretty high on that list as well, and unless she knows and approve that you stick your dick in many other women, you're abandoning her by cheating on her. Call me a romantic, but when you betray the trust of someone that you say that you love, you're betraying her, and generally being a piece of shit
Add yourselves to the list of poor brainwashed SUCKERS. You twits can "ManUp" all you like. If it makes you feel good, great. Personally, keeping my cash & time for my INTENDED kids lets me sleep at night.
Fuji - you are are a complete dweeb. This is not a boyfreined /girlfriend relationship, this is a business relationship. Are you trying to recover from you classless classy blunder? Are you braindead?
Your "INTENDED kids"?? Then why have sex with someone you don't "intend" to have kids with? You do know that having sex, even "protected sex" can lead to kids, right? Take some responsibility for your your own sperm.
Are you sure about that? After all, much of the opposition to abortion ultimately originates from religious beliefs about life beginning at the moment of conception (the standard teachings of the Roman Catholic Church). Much of those same religious beliefs also condemn extramarital sex, particularly prostitution, as sinful or immoral.
Therefore, one can make the argument that women who choose to become SPs are more likely to oppose or reject such religious beliefs as described above, and thus be more open to abortion, especially given that there is a risk of an unwanted pregnancy arising from the SP having sex with clients.
Although, given that many SPs use birth control pills in addition to condoms, how likely would an SP actually get pregnant from a client, even if, as in the scenario you described, the condom broke? More likely, she would be worried about possible STDs/STIs.
I have to say I would seriously question any of my contemporaries who would choose to continue a pregnancy that results from a paid encounter with goodness knows who. And then to try and peg one or more of my dates as the responsible (or as some would suggest irresponsible party) and the label of dad and all that goes with it (from a legal standpoint) seems absolutely ludicrous to me.
Just my 2 cents worth though.
xo Jane
Just my 2 cents worth though.
xo Jane
Hmm, well as an SP I know if I ever ended up pregnant with a clients child, I'd prefer to get an abortion. But I understand that many women do not believe that it is an acceptable option.
If you are in a situation where you are having sex(either with an SP or with a civie), and the condom breaks I believe it is the responsibility of both parties to take certain precautions. Women, get the morning after pill. Men, offer to pay half the cost of the pill. A morning after pill is roughly $40(depending on where you go to get it), and you have to get it from the registered pharmacy desk of any drug store(so ladies, go somewhere you don't frequent so as not to be recognized). It must be taken within 72 hours of the condom breaking, and can only be taken effectively once per cycle(so ladies, if you've already taken once for the month, you can't take it again and have it work).
If I were to find myself pregnant, despite all precautions, and I had a pretty good idea of who the father was, I'd discreetly contact him to try and arrange something with him, regarding the cost of the abortion and the cost of transportation to a clinic/hospital. I live in KW and there are no local clinics as far as I know, so between various prices I'd be looking at a costly problem, upwards of $400, and I believe that the other person involved should be responsible for at least some of that cost.
Edit; Also, poll answers are biased to create an unfair result. There should be more options. Part of the reason there are so many 'no's is because you have only created one negative answer, but three positives that don't fit what many people would do, so they can only choose the 'no' answer, harsh as it may seem. You should have added 'No, I would try to convince her to get an abortion' and also add an a similar answer, where the gentleman offers to help pay for the costly procedure. That would make the poll more even and less obviously fixed to gather a specific response.
If you are in a situation where you are having sex(either with an SP or with a civie), and the condom breaks I believe it is the responsibility of both parties to take certain precautions. Women, get the morning after pill. Men, offer to pay half the cost of the pill. A morning after pill is roughly $40(depending on where you go to get it), and you have to get it from the registered pharmacy desk of any drug store(so ladies, go somewhere you don't frequent so as not to be recognized). It must be taken within 72 hours of the condom breaking, and can only be taken effectively once per cycle(so ladies, if you've already taken once for the month, you can't take it again and have it work).
If I were to find myself pregnant, despite all precautions, and I had a pretty good idea of who the father was, I'd discreetly contact him to try and arrange something with him, regarding the cost of the abortion and the cost of transportation to a clinic/hospital. I live in KW and there are no local clinics as far as I know, so between various prices I'd be looking at a costly problem, upwards of $400, and I believe that the other person involved should be responsible for at least some of that cost.
Edit; Also, poll answers are biased to create an unfair result. There should be more options. Part of the reason there are so many 'no's is because you have only created one negative answer, but three positives that don't fit what many people would do, so they can only choose the 'no' answer, harsh as it may seem. You should have added 'No, I would try to convince her to get an abortion' and also add an a similar answer, where the gentleman offers to help pay for the costly procedure. That would make the poll more even and less obviously fixed to gather a specific response.
I acknowledge some people feel differently about abortion, but really if someone is in this line of work, this has to at least be a consideration.
Totally agree with SweetSerenity. It's a fucked up situation, but I think it's the best option. A child from those circumstances is not really advisable.
Totally agree with SweetSerenity. It's a fucked up situation, but I think it's the best option. A child from those circumstances is not really advisable.
The day after pill only works if you have not ovulated . It stops ovulation so a child can not be consieved! I did have a boyfriend and oooops twice over a period of 5 years! I was given all the facts and had to sign a paper that I was given such information. Scary but hey a one night stand or a paid encounter what's the difference. I doubt that a sp would choose to keep a child and well you as individuals can only decide for yourselfs the risk. It is not for anyone of us to decide! JUST BE CAREFUL ALL!!!!! So if conception happened before the pill was taken your out of luck!! I personally wouldn't make the choice to keep the child but that's only me.
You're talking to Terbitres. Remember these are ones with menus and view the session like they have a list of contractual specifications.
