Whats up with the kissing?

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afterhours

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well i know select and toronto passions will not allow you to work for them if you do not provide bbbj i applied and got rejected because i wont do bbbj
that is why I avoid indies like a plague
 

lovedoc

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that is why I avoid indies like a plague
never say never as there are some Indies who provides this service equal to or sometimes better...mmmm...what constitutes a better DFK. I like the ones where you lock tight like a vacuum and not going out for air for the longest time while your tongues twirl every each direction.....
 

sweetcookie

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I certainly didn't mean to put down any SP's who offer Kissing.Like so many have said,to each their own.If I put that off I do apologize.There has to be a certain connection for me in order to kiss someone.My problem is that it seems to be "expected" even though I don't advertise or offer LK,FK or DFK.I understand the need,want for intimacy in this way but the deep attraction Has to be there for me!I have other ways to create that intimacy without kissing on the lips.Thanks for all the replies.Hope your weekend is filled with fireworks!
 

sweetcookie

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Good so if your not a troll, and some of us respect the fact you don't want to kiss, why don't you tell us who you are this way those who like to kiss don't need to approach you. This way we respect you and you have respect for us. Do you tell your customers upfront before you take the money whats allowed and not?
Why don't you tell me who you are?Of course I tell my "friends" upfront exactly what is and is not on the menu.Asking me this question is ridiculous.
 

islandman4567

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Why don't you tell me who you are?Of course I tell my "friends" upfront exactly what is and is not on the menu.Asking me this question is ridiculous.
you said you don't advertise this service, but do you specify that its DEFINITELY OFF the menu in your advertising? or do you tell the guy when he gets there? I don't see how guys would EXPECT this if its plainly stated in your ad.

for example, http://www.theredzone.com/prodomme/mzscream/index3.htm
I don't foresee many guys thinking they're going to get full service from this girl if its already stated in the ad.

also, saying things like " damn the sp's that started this" and "Like i said,whoever started this shit needs a slap upside the head." sure sounds like a put down to me.
 

BigBlueBobby

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Kissing your wife or girfriend is very personal and loving which makes it exciting. Kissing a girl you met 3 minutes ago and just gave money to is very dirty and therefore very exciting. Mankind invented kissing for a reason. We like it. Yes we know there are risks and yes we know where your mouth has been. But we disregard that to satisfy our baser human instincts and desires.
 

sweetcookie

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I know i know i know....but for me,no kissing.And yes the fact is stated clearly before a "visit".But still I find the "gentleman" trying,attempting,wanting to kiss me.I hold kissing in another category,the "In love" one.BigBlueB,it has nothing to do with risk or where my mouth has been(thanx for adding that little tidbit,i often wonder where a mans mouth has been also).So the answer?If you want to kiss don't visit me.Pretty simple math.If you take offense...get over it.
 

rhuarc29

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I know i know i know....but for me,no kissing.And yes the fact is stated clearly before a "visit".But still I find the "gentleman" trying,attempting,wanting to kiss me.I hold kissing in another category,the "In love" one.BigBlueB,it has nothing to do with risk or where my mouth has been(thanx for adding that little tidbit,i often wonder where a mans mouth has been also).So the answer?If you want to kiss don't visit me.Pretty simple math.If you take offense...get over it.
If you list your services as Safe GFE, then you are being completely honest and these gentlemen are trying to push the envelope or just outright ignorant. But if you list your services as GFE, as the name implies most people understand that to include DFK. I don't think I've ever seen an SP list her services as ILE (In Love Experience).
 

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well i know select and toronto passions will not allow you to work for them if you do not provide bbbj i applied and got rejected because i wont do bbbj
That is fucking ridiculous. Work for an agency that respects the small steps you take to ensure your health and safety.

THAT IS FUCKING RIDICULOUS.
 

luckyjackson

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It's amusing how after 7 pages no one has pointed out the glaring contradiction in the o.p.'s logic. Kissing is an intimate act between lovers and therefore she doesn't feel it's appropriate for her to perform that act....so what then is intercourse? Is looking into a woman's eyes while you move your cock in and out of her any less intimate? Totally subjective.

No working girl should feel pressured to do anything she doesn't want to. Optimally, she would enjoy providing the service. On the other hand, someone with the o.p.'s attitude seems, to me at least, to be in the wrong business.

As for the whole issue of kissing, I believe that "SP's don't kiss" thing gained currency by being perpetuated in the movies. Its a way of underlining the message that the woman is being coerced and that her heart isn't in it, so she reserves that "one act" for those she cares about. Ridiculous of course.
 

Don

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If you want to kiss don't visit me.Pretty simple math
BINGO! Just make sure you advertise this heavily on your webpage or whatever advertisement you use and also reiterate it in the beginning of the session. Any client who then tries to push their luck is an ass.
 

Don

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It's amusing how after 7 pages no one has pointed out the glaring contradiction in the o.p.'s logic. Kissing is an intimate act between lovers and therefore she doesn't feel it's appropriate for her to perform that act....so what then is intercourse? Is looking into a woman's eyes while you move your cock in and out of her any less intimate? Totally subjective.
I do think french kissing is more intimate than sex because kissing involves both parties to be actively involved. It does involve more effort for the SP. I've had intercourse with SP's who just laid there like a doll like they were asleep (one was even watching her watch). Needless to say, it did not feel very intimate and kissing was a no-no because it involved more effort on her end.
 

Garrett

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It's amusing how after 7 pages no one has pointed out the glaring contradiction in the o.p.'s logic. Kissing is an intimate act between lovers and therefore she doesn't feel it's appropriate for her to perform that act....so what then is intercourse? Is looking into a woman's eyes while you move your cock in and out of her any less intimate? Totally subjective.
Well we all have our own standards. I know for me, I have been totally grossed out when people have kissed me unannounced (and that includes SPs, strippers, etc). For me there is no doubt kissing is a more intimate act than straight intercourse. Is it subjective? No doubt. However, the OP is clearly not alone here. Once upon a time she would have clearly been in the majority. Now, who knows. However, I think the SP business in Toronto has gone downhill with the checklist of acronyms being the first priority of booking (bbbj.. check, dfk... check, greek... check, 100/hh... check), and many of the higher end true courtesans who have left the business over the years.
 

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Sweetcookie, you should go back and read all of your posts in this thread. You directly or indirectly insulted everyone. The subject of lfk, dfk and transmission of anything or intimacy. For crying out loud, you're going to lie down a get drilled by a penis and accidents do happen. The whole issue is an oxymoron.

Roleplay:
SO: How was your day dear?
Sweet Cookie: Well, I didn't kiss anyone
SO: Good, I'm glad
Sweet Cookie: However, I did take 5 penises in my mouth, vagina and anus, and I think that I'm still sticky from the last fella.
 

HOF

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Lisa, when are you leaving for Jamaica? You might want to change that signature picture too. It's not very flattering.
 

NatashaDoll

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I think it's unfair to suggest that SP's allow kissing because they think they have to in order to get clients. I kiss because I like to kiss and much like most clients don't like to feel like a commodity, I don't like to feel like one either. Even though I'm sure we're both aware it's a business transaction at the end of the day, I don't feel that there's anything wrong with suspending reality for a little while. Sorry if that makes the OP feel like those of us that kiss have caused problems for her but I'd rather feel like someone's girlfriend than someone that's getting paid to be a cum receptacle.
 

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I think it's unfair to suggest that SP's allow kissing because they think they have to in order to get clients. I kiss because I like to kiss and much like most clients don't like to feel like a commodity, I don't like to feel like one either. Even though I'm sure we're both aware it's a business transaction at the end of the day, I don't feel that there's anything wrong with suspending reality for a little while. Sorry if that makes the OP feel like those of us that kiss have caused problems for her but I'd rather feel like someone's girlfriend than someone that's getting paid to be a cum receptacle.
well,maybe you should do something else if you cant face what you are!!You have to kiss a customer to make you feel like you are someone else??come on!!!you are square....thats it.I have no problem saying what i am,obviously you do!
 

afterhours

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Roleplay:
SO: How was your day dear?
Sweet Cookie: Well, I didn't kiss anyone
SO: Good, I'm glad
Sweet Cookie: However, I did take 5 penises in my mouth, vagina and anus, and I think that I'm still sticky from the last fella.
that was funny
 
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