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Why is it so hard for a new-grad to get a freaking job?

Master_Bates

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When I finished University I also had a hard time finding a job.

Eventually I had run out of money and really needed to do something to pay the bills so I got a job as a server at a restaurant. I would totally recommend this to anyone. You get to meet people in ALL fields, and if you're personable can make all sorts of connections, not just for work. I met girls to date, bouncers/bartenders to hook me up at clubs, a real estate agent who helped me get my first house, contractors to help with upgrades, and eventually a job connection. If you're a good people person and a hard worker, it will open you up to opportunities you never thought about before. Not to mention, at the right restaurant, you could make more money than the majority of entry level jobs in any field.
 

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GotGusto

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I am in the same situation as Natasha. I'm a double college grad, I have a full time career and I do this part time. Actually, I got a job in my field before I even graduated. Most of my classmates are unemployed.
OK, I don't think you or Natasha are really helping. I mean, are you telling the OP that he should suck cock on the side to supplement his income?
 

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I got 2 years co-op experience, grade B student, i just don't understand why is it so hard to get a freaking interview.
Before grade inflation, a B student was above average (average being C to C+). Now, in many universities, faculty of Arts averages are A. (even if your university is one of the minority that sticks to old standards, employers likely don’t know it). Depending one where you went, B may very well be below average. I think that one of the big problems with grade inflation is that it often leads students to think they are better than they are.
BTW, I don’t think many employers really care about grades as the details of what someone studies in university often has little to do with job requirements. To a large extent, university degrees have just become a screening device (sometimes called credentialism).
 

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BTW, I don’t think many employers really care about grades as the details of what someone studies in university often has little to do with job requirements. To a large extent, university degrees have just become a screening device (sometimes called credentialism).
Often than not employers care more about what you can offer to them and your (+ve) attitude, and grades are not what they are looking for.

To be honest I see a lot more college grads get work than university. University is no longer the job guarantee-er that it once was. ...No one cares if you know theory anymore, it's all about hands-on.
That's so true esp. if you are getting into one of the IT fields. No one wants to spend time and resources on training anyone, or wait for you to ramp up slowly.

Networking is very important: I paid dearly for not doing that earlier in my career...
 

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Why is it so hard for a new-grad to get a freaking job?
I just graduated, submitted at least hundred of job application for different position.
Not even a single interview, and the worst is they never reply you saying you weren't being selected.
I got 2 years co-op experience, grade B student, i just don't understand why is it so hard to get a freaking interview.
I am running out of cash, cant hobby anymore, and i am having the same health problem as another bro 'semen level has risen, it was coming out of my eyeballs'

is there any career site that have a lot of posting for new grad?
You should have been looking for a job back in January or Spring Break/Study week. Not now.
This way your job would be waiting for you in May or rigth after last exam. Even if you didn't know when last exam is you could have guessed it and then apply it on you job search.
You didn't do any of the above and that is seen as a procastinator. Also it seems like you had other plans , like travel but daddy didn't keep the end of his promise.
It also looks like you weren't sure what you wanted out of life, and now that the money is low you need a job. - I met a guy like this-- he literaly went to food banks after a month. I even offered him a job from a company/buddy that got it for me, but I already made a commitment to some else. The guy called me a month later "demanding I give him the job",

Yes start as a server to make some dough and connections.
 

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They want people with experience but don't want to pay for it...but they won't give a junior an opportunity to get the experience and their foot in the door.
 

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So, rc posts a thread asking for help and after 35 posts doesn't come back to answer any questions...... Perhaps this is some insight into the issue.

You should realize that after graduation (unless you have a tech degree) almost no practical experience - the sooner you come to grips with this the sooner you'll start looking for jobs to teach you something useful vs funding your hobby budget.

I will likely be hiring someone in Toronto this summer, but I won't even look at someone with less than 15-20 yr experience.

OTB
 

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Don't take my statement wrong, take action!

Congratulations on graduating with a B average, but employers want A graduates. The next piece of advice that you may wish to consider is your command of the English language. Please check your CV over extensively for grammar, spelling, structure. If you sent me a cover letter written similar to your post, it would be shredded. You need to remember there are many looking for employment and many that will have extensive experience as well. If you still have difficulty finding work, volunteer somewhere industry related or not, and you could consider the military that will enhance your skills in many ways and is strong on a CV.

As for the build up of frustration, masterbation is an option.
Thanks for the tips

You should have been looking for a job back in January or Spring Break/Study week. Not now.
This way your job would be waiting for you in May or rigth after last exam. Even if you didn't know when last exam is you could have guessed it and then apply it on you job search.
You didn't do any of the above and that is seen as a procastinator. Also it seems like you had other plans , like travel but daddy didn't keep the end of his promise.
It also looks like you weren't sure what you wanted out of life, and now that the money is low you need a job. - I met a guy like this-- he literaly went to food banks after a month. I even offered him a job from a company/buddy that got it for me, but I already made a commitment to some else. The guy called me a month later "demanding I give him the job",

Yes start as a server to make some dough and connections.
I actually have started applying since December, and i knew getting a job would take times so i have saved up enough to support for all my living expense till July 2010, but as i mention before, submitted over 100 applications and not even a single one get back to me. That why i am posting here hoping some one can help.

Also, I have never use a single penny from my parent since i am 16, so don't even talk like you know me. If a UW & WLU graduate deserve to work in restaurant, I don't know who should work in an office.
 

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the real question is what is you field of study???


What have you applied for?
 

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What field of work you are persuing always makes a big difference. There is cycles in each industry/ sector of the economy as well as changing popularity for certain jobs. One has to ask if their profession & industry is thriving or hurting in the present economy & is it very popular ( thus many new people entering the industry & competing for jobs).
 

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Why is it so hard for a new-grad to get a freaking job?
All the working grads before you thought it was a good idea to move jobs overseas. Plus they discovered it's better to be an independent 'consultant' to mask incompetence.
 

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I actually have started applying since December, and i knew getting a job would take times so i have saved up enough to support for all my living expense till July 2010, but as i mention before, submitted over 100 applications and not even a single one get back to me. That why i am posting here hoping some one can help.

Also, I have never use a single penny from my parent since i am 16, so don't even talk like you know me. If a UW & WLU graduate deserve to work in restaurant, I don't know who should work in an office.
People are giving you good advice and rather than thanking the, you come across as defensive. The last sentence you wrote makes it come across that you are not the type of person who wants to work to prove themselves as you have some sort of sense of entitlement.

Take a moment and have a look at how you composed your response. It is full of grammar and syntax errors. These quickly turn off anyone who are looking over cover letters. Out of the 100 resumes you sent out, did you have a personal cover letter for each company showing them that you did your research on that company and that based on your research you will be a good fit because of what you can bring to the table?

I was once like you. I came out of University expecting a Manager job. I was luck that 6 months later I found myself working in a mailroom for a department who's Director had a High School education. I busted my butt for far too little money considering the amount of work I put in. I never complained, I volunteered for extra work to prove I could do more. I was always the first one in the office and one of the last to leave. Within 2 years, I received 3 promotions and almost tripled my entry level salary and I kept the same work ethic.

By the time I was 30 I had been promoted to that manager position I thought I deserved when I first got out of school, but I also realized that I learned so much more after I was finished with school. Several years later, I am the person who rejects the resumes I receive from people that have generic cover letters, grammar and syntax errors, don't show any experience, work ethic and have a sense of entitlement.
 

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Very good advise from everyone on this post and I agree with Fighting_Amish that the advice/comments should be appreciated rather than be seen as punches to your situation! My advice having already worked 10+ years as a professional is to start at the grass roots at you learn so much. With hard work, networking and patience, you will easily reach a Manager/Director level position and make over $100k. I was fortunate that I found a job after 6 months of graduating and I was too looking for that Managers job after completing grad studies. The EGO just fuels us to get to the top as fast as possible, but life doesn't work that way (at least for most of us) and what I can tell you is it's a double edge sword. If you get promoted too quickly and it's seen you can't handle it, you will get fired. I've seen it numerous times. Therefore, talk to your friends, family, volunteer, find a mentor, show up a industry shows etc...
 

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I had the same problem when graduating years ago when the economy was relatively good. It took me over a year to land a job. What I ended up doing worked out well for me:

Figure out what it is that you want to do (don't take this lightly), approach a person in such a company who you'd ultimately be reporting to (not human resources) ask if you could talk to them briefly about the company (know your shit when talking to him), and express enthusiasm and a willingness to work for this guy for practically nothing if necessary. Your first year there, be a sponge, work your ass off 12+ hours a day, immerse your entire life in your work (if it truly is what you want to do you should have no problem with it), know details and processes within the company that no one else would ever bother paying attention to, eat mac and cheese every day to support yourself if you have to. You should get noticed pretty quickly and rise through the ranks. I started this way at my company and now I'm running it.

Reality is, a good job is not something that is handed to you and nor should it be. You need to earn it. If you're not willing to put this kind of work into it, maybe you should be dishing out french fries.

One more thing..... job postings are bullshit and only for people who don't have the balls to go after what they really want on their own.

Why is it so hard for a new-grad to get a freaking job?
I just graduated, submitted at least hundred of job application for different position.
Not even a single interview, and the worst is they never reply you saying you weren't being selected.
I got 2 years co-op experience, grade B student, i just don't understand why is it so hard to get a freaking interview.
I am running out of cash, cant hobby anymore, and i am having the same health problem as another bro 'semen level has risen, it was coming out of my eyeballs'

is there any career site that have a lot of posting for new grad?
 
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