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I just came across an incredible basketball stat: In 1962, Chamberlain played EVERY minute of 45 consecutive NBA games.(He played in 79 complete games that season.) There's not a single NBA player in the league today who has played in 45 complete games IN HIS CAREER!
 

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Wilt

Wilt was quite the guy. We all have heard about his amorous life. Says he bedded over 10,000 women. Quite the number, but are you going to argue with him?

Two things about him have always stunned me.

First, even though he had led the league in scoring and rebounding many times, he had never led the league in assists. Of course, the naysayers got on him about never passing, so what did he do? He went out and led the league in assists, just cuz he wanted to do it.

He's also the only guy to score 100 points in an NBA game. Given his attitude about his stats mentioned above, I suspect that he could have done it again, if he wanted to.

I saw him play many times. He was unbelievable to watch. I even wore rubber bands on my wrists, as he did, thru my high school years in homage to Wilt.
 

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What convinced me that he was the most dominant player ever was his battles against a young Kareem Abdul-Jabbar in the early 70's while he was in his mid-30's. Jabbar could never really light him up on the offensive end. He was the only player I've seen, literally, block one of Jabbar's sky hooks and bring it down with one hand while the ball was in mid-flight.
 

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Nice to see that there are a few more Wilt fans out there! Another incredible stat is the fact that he NEVER foulded out of a game in his entire 14 year career.
 
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Championships?

This isn't meant as a jack-ass question - I honestly don't know the answer - How many championships did he win? # of finals reached?
 

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I know he won 2 championships - 1 with Philly and 1 with the Lakers. Not sure how many he lost - but I'd guess it had to be more than 2.
 

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Wilt played in the NBA Finals 6 times--once with the San Francisco Warriors, once with the Philadelphia 76ers, and 4 times with the Los Angeles Lakers.

As Zydeco said, he won twice. Once with Philly over San Francisco, and once with L.A., over N.Y. He never beat a Bill Russell lead Celtics team in the Finals.
 

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homonger - if you know - Did anyone ever beat a Bill Russell lead Celtics team?
 

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zydeco said:
homonger - if you know - Did anyone ever beat a Bill Russell lead Celtics team?
Yes. The Bob Pettit led St. Louis Hawks beat the Celtics in the 57-58 Finals. I'm pretty sure Russell was injured, however.
 

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homonger said:
Yes. The Bob Pettit led St. Louis Hawks beat the Celtics in the 57-58 Finals. I'm pretty sure Russell was injured, however.
Russell was injured in game 3, and Pettit lit the Celts up for 50 in game 6 to win the title.

Wilt's only victory over Russell was on that '67 team during the ECF. That Philly team demolished every other team standing in its way.

Wilt was cursed. He was so domintating that he could lead a bunch of scrubs to the ECF, but his teams usually didn't have enough talent to beat the Celtics. It wasn't until Chet Walker, an 8-time all-star PF, and Billy Cunningham joined Philly in '65 that Wilt had a decent team to compete for a championship.
 

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zydeco said:
I just came across an incredible basketball stat: In 1962, Chamberlain played EVERY minute of 45 consecutive NBA games.(He played in 79 complete games that season.) There's not a single NBA player in the league today who has played in 45 complete games IN HIS CAREER!
This is 2005. Milk from cows isn't the same in 2005 than 1962 never mind pro sport.

If your telling me that Wilt won every game that he was in. Then i would applaud his achievment. If your just stating he played every game, whether they won or lost then i would say "big deal." Any coach if hes a moron can allow any player all the floor time he wants. But what are the results?
 

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As I recall, Bill Cunningham was the sixth man on that '67 Phillyteam. Billiy C eventually developed into a star a few years later

The starters(on that '67 team) were Wally Jones and Hal Greer at the backcourt, Chamberlain at the center, Chet the jet at power forward.

Who was the other starter ?

Yeah, they beat the SF Warriors 4-2 in the final. The Warriors put up a good fight, led by sensational second-year man Rick Barry who led the league in scoring that season. And Barry eventually led the Golden State Warriors to the Championship in 1975.

Big Papa Smurf said:
...Wilt's only victory over Russell was on that '67 team during the ECF. That Philly team demolished every other team standing in its way.

Wilt was cursed. He was so domintating that he could lead a bunch of scrubs to the ECF, but his teams usually didn't have enough talent to beat the Celtics. It wasn't until Chet Walker, an 8-time all-star PF, and Billy Cunningham joined Philly in '65 that Wilt had a decent team to compete for a championship.
 

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Who was the other starter ?
I believe it was Lucious Jackson, a terror of a power forward, who never quite sustained it over his career. Walker played the 3, if I'm not mistaken.

Wilt's stat line for that season--24.1 ppg, 24.2 rpg, 7.8 apg. 24 rebounds a game!

That Sixer team averaged 125.2 points a game. Un-frickin'-believable by today's standards.
 

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homonger - Unless you're using a basketball encyclopedia, you must be a.....well.....a basketball encyclopedia!

BTW - here's another question (albeit off topic) for you - If you know - how many consecutive times was Michael 1st team All-Nba?
 

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I believe you are correct . But Luke Jackson was something like 240 and 6'10", right ?

homonger said:
I believe it was Lucious Jackson, a terror of a power forward, who never quite sustained it over his career. Walker played the 3, if I'm not mistaken.

Wilt's stat line for that season--24.1 ppg, 24.2 rpg, 7.8 apg. 24 rebounds a game!

That Sixer team averaged 125.2 points a game. Un-frickin'-believable by today's standards.
 

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About 15 years ago, Sports Illustrated's annual NBA issue had a cover story called, "The Enforcers." Basically it was a piece about all the bad-ass guys in the NBA who were their team's protector.

This was when Maurice Lucas of the Trail Blazers was in his heyday. They had a picture of Maurice standing in a dark alley and, you knew, no one was gonna mess with Maurice.

The article appeared, if I recall correctly, the season after Kermit Washington threw THE PUNCH that broke Rudy Tomjanovich's jaw. So they played up how much of an enforcer Kermit was. My own recollection of Kermit is that he was a journeyman player, who was really a kind soul at heart. The Rudy T incident was not at all indicative of his character and in many ways, his career was over after that incident.

Anyway, in this article, they asked Bob Lanier (6'10, 265, size 16 sneakers, career 20.1 ppg. 10.1 rpg) who HE thought was the biggest enforcer in the league.

His response? Wilt. I clearly remember Bob saying, "When Wilt picked me up (now think about that) over here, and put me down over there, I knew he was the biggest badass."
 

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zydeco said:
homonger - Unless you're using a basketball encyclopedia, you must be a.....well.....a basketball encyclopedia!

BTW - here's another question (albeit off topic) for you - If you know - how many consecutive times was Michael 1st team All-Nba?
I consider myself pretty knowledgeable about hoops, but I am, in fact, using a basketball encyclopedia. MJ made 1st team All-NBA seven times between 1986-87 and his first retirement after 1992-93. When he returned, he was 1st team All-NBA for the three years between 1995-96 and 1997-98.

Ice dog, the record book has Jackson listed at 6-9, 240, so you are very close.

I used to have a lot of respect for Maurice Lucas' game. Bill Walton was a great player, but he and the Trailblazers don't win the 76-77 NBA title without Lucas doing the dirty work. Otis Thorpe filled a similar role for Akeem Olajuwon, and so did Charles Oakley for Patrick Ewing. There aren't too many guys willing to play that role anymore.
 
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