Sad state of morality in California incident - people sauntered over to watch? WTF!

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Just what the f### is happening with people these days? What that poor girl went through is totally unforgivable and completely unacceptable!!!!!!! People have got to be held accountable for their actions!! In this case the people who did not react and help that poor girl should also be held accountable!!! Also, if this was a school dance, how did none of the teachers notice any of this? Lasted for 2 1/2 hours? Like, what the f@##!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad:
 
Police: Gang rape outside school dance lasted over two hours
By Nick Valencia, CNN October 27, 2009 8:56 a.m. EDT

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/10/27/california.gang.rape.investigation/index.html

(CNN) -- A California high school student who police said was gang raped in a two-and-a-half-hour assault outside a homecoming dance remained hospitalized in stable condition Monday, two days after she was flown from the attack scene in critical condition.

As of late Monday, two suspects had been arrested in the case and a third was being questioned.

"There is one individual in custody who has made some spontaneous statements that have led me to believe that he is culpable for what happened," Richmond police Lt. Johan Simon said.

Nineteen-year-old Manuel Ortega, described as a former student at the school, was arrested soon after he fled the scene and will face charges of rape, robbery and kidnapping, police said.

A 15-year-old was later arrested and charged with one count of felony sexual assault. A third teenager was being interviewed, according to Lt. Mark Gagan of the police department in Richmond, California.

"Based on witness statements and suspect statements, and also physical evidence, we know that she was raped by at least four suspects committing multiple sex acts," Gagan said.

Investigators said as many as 15 people, all males, stood around watching the assault, but did not call police or help the victim, a 15-year-old student at Richmond High School in suburban San Francisco.

"As people announced over time that this was going on, more people came to see, and some actually participated," Gagan said. :mad:

Authorities had interviewed the victim, and the search for other attackers and bystanders who watched and did not report the rape was in "full-court press," according to Gagan.

"We have checked Facebook and YouTube to try to find any revealing evidence," he said. "We're looking in particular to see if anyone posted any video of the incident."

Several other individuals were detained at the scene but not arrested, Simon said.

The attack occurred on school grounds as the annual homecoming dance was under way inside the school Saturday night, authorities said.

The victim was found unconscious and "brutally assaulted" under a bench shortly before midnight Saturday, after police received a call from someone in the area who had overheard people at the assault scene "reminiscing about the incident," Gagan said.

"This just gets worse and worse the more you dig into it," Gagan said. "It was like a horror movie after looking at the evidence. I can't believe not one person felt compelled to help her."
 
Unfuckingbelievable.

Participants need a loooong prison sentence, while the bystanders each need a short one and about 250 hours volunteer work at local rape crisis center.
 
Unfuckingbelievable.

Participants need a loooong prison sentence, while the bystanders each need a short one and about 250 hours volunteer work at local rape crisis center.

Noooo! they just need a long weekend at central booking with the Dover Brothers, Ben and Bubba.
 
I would like to believe that the vast majority of these individuals who went over to "sneak a peek" did not feel that the girl was actually in danger. I would chill me to the bone to think that there are people who could sit by and watch a girl being raped while doing nothing.
 
I would like to believe that the vast majority of these individuals who went over to "sneak a peek" did not feel that the girl was actually in danger. I would chill me to the bone to think that there are people who could sit by and watch a girl being raped while doing nothing.

To know that she was in critical condition speaks volumes to all involved. If consensual she might have got slight bruising and abrasions but to be left in critical condition is inexcusable.

Every one of those bystanders should be charged with involuntary manslaughter. Those guys destroyed this child and they (the bystanders) all contributed.
 
Interesting how politically incorrect it is to mention colour and race



Group behavior esp among the young is amazingly strong

They would never act like that outside of the group
 
Can you imagine if it was your Daughter? Knowing she had been raped and brutalized and discovering that there was a group of people standing around watching?????

What the hell is wrong with society?

I feel sick:(
 
The guys who just stood there and watched can't be charged with a crime (I'm pretty sure). However, if any of the bystanders cheered on the attackers they are culpable. Remember the movie The Accused.

This is shameful. If I knew that my son was one of those who stood by and did nothing I'd disown him. After I beat his ass of course!
 
Update

Investigators say as many as 20 people were involved in or stood and watched the gang rape of a 15-year-old girl outside a California high school homecoming dance Saturday night.

Police posted a $20,000 reward Tuesday for anyone who comes to them with information that helps arrest and convict those involved in what authorities describe as a 2½-hour assault on the Richmond High School campus in suburban San Francisco.

Two teenage suspects have been jailed, but more arrests, as many as 20 total, are expected, according to a police detective.

"We will be making arrests continually as we develop probable cause," said Richmond Police Lt. Mark Gagan. "With this number of people implicated in the incident we're going to be making arrests on an ongoing basis."

As many as 10 people were physically involved in the rape in a dimly lighted back alley at the school, while another 10 people watched without calling 911 to report it, police said.

A 1999 California law makes it illegal not to report a witnessed crime against a child, but the law applies only to children 14 and under. [The girl in this case was 15]

"We do not have the ability to arrest people who witnessed the crime and did nothing," Gagan said. "The law can be very rigid. We don't have the authority to make an arrest."
 
As mentioned, you actually have to encourage or assist the assault to commit a criminal offence. Mere bystanding is not sufficient.

I attribute it to the extreme youth of the onlookers and rap culture. Let's face it, most 15 year olds have no idea what to do in a RL situation. They're basically just kids. They have never dealt with the cops and are probably scared of them. And if older, cooler kids are involved, the youngsters probably think that it is all somehow "okay". Throw in the misogyny of rap videos and you probably get a bunch of onlookers who are not only too young to realize wtf is happening, but are also brainwashed into thinking that the "bitch" is enjoying it all.
 
San Francisco Chronicle adds that:

...six young men raped the girl while bystanders laughed, took photos and stole her jewelry, police said.

Manuel Ortega, 19, who dropped out of Richmond High in 2007, was arrested as he ran from the scene of the attack at the school about midnight Saturday, police said. He was booked on suspicion of rape, kidnapping and robbery.

Greco said Ortega and the other arrested teenager had shown no remorse during police interviews.

Photo of Manuel Ortega can be viewed via the following link:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object/article?f=/c/a/2009/10/27/BAEA1AB71L.DTL&o=0

[Note: heading in link "Boy 15 arrested" is referring to the other boy arrested so far. Ortega (in photo) is 19]

Police called the incident "disgusting" and "a sad state of affairs."

"This is the worst thing I've heard of," said Greco, who has been in law enforcement for 29 years. "It just shocked the conscience of responding officers."
 
As mentioned, you actually have to encourage or assist the assault to commit a criminal offence. Mere bystanding is not sufficient.

I attribute it to the extreme youth of the onlookers and rap culture. Let's face it, most 15 year olds have no idea what to do in a RL situation. They're basically just kids. They have never dealt with the cops and are probably scared of them. And if older, cooler kids are involved, the youngsters probably think that it is all somehow "okay". Throw in the misogyny of rap videos and you probably get a bunch of onlookers who are not only too young to realize wtf is happening, but are also brainwashed into thinking that the "bitch" is enjoying it all.
Rap video?

There's certainly plenty of misogyny going around in lots of rap video, but I think that misogyny was well and alive well before rap ever came around, and is thriving in all area of our culture, not only in "black music".

Interesting that you would bring rap video, and not porn, as a pop culture medium that is propagading racist and misogynist ideas, namely the idea the the bitch is enjoying it all. Or not the very "mainstream" sexualization of violence against women in advertising or fashion. Like this:

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Women being "raped", bystanders casually enjoying the show, with at least one waiting to take his turn. Brought to you by Dolce & Gabbana.
 
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More sexualized violence against women by mainstream culture. And in order to sell stuff to the very people that the violence is directed against, no less.

I can't say that I'm shocked or surprised that kids would engaged in a gang rape, while other kids would stand by and watch the show. Every fucking day, these kids are raised with images such as the two above, telling them that violence against women is sexy, fun, glamorous, and that the bitch likes it (hell, she'll buy those shoes).

Sad, but not exactly surprising.
 
Doesn't the U.S. have a "good samaritan law"? whereby, one has to assist someone in trouble. Out of these onlookers, someone must have realized that a crime was being committed and should have contacted police immediately.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Samaritan_law

Interesting question, so I looked it up.

In both the US and Canada, the Good Samaritan law means that you cannot be sued for helping others.

It does NOT mean that you are required to assist a person in danger (duty to rescue). In Quebec however, there IS a duty to rescue. But even then, failure to do so constitutes a civil infraction under Quebec civil law, not necessarily a criminal offense under the Criminal Code of Canada.
 
To be fair, it cuts both ways.

http://www.firebox.com/product/1109/The-Ex-Voodoo-Knife-Block
http://www.lazyboneuk.com/products/Voodoo-Knife-Block.html

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More sexualized violence against women by mainstream culture. And in order to sell stuff to the very people that the violence is directed against, no less.

I can't say that I'm shocked or surprised that kids would engaged in a gang rape, while other kids would stand by and watch the show. Every fucking day, these kids are raised with images such as the two above, telling them that violence against women is sexy, fun, glamorous, and that the bitch likes it (hell, she'll buy those shoes).

Sad, but not exactly surprising.