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tboy

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As with all the other stories like this: I will wait for the other side before passing judgement.

For eg: say the driver cut off the bicyclist and the bicyclist screams and yells at the driver, smacking the car and whatnot saying: I'll kill you motherfucker.

Now I personally would stop and invite the asshole to try, but not everyone is me. Someone else might try to shake him off for fear if he stops, he might get beaten or worse.
 
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doggee_01

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regardless of what happened he left the scene and the guy is dead!
 
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nottyboi

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At the very least he is guilty of the "leaving the scene" charge. No way he can duck that one. In considering the seriousness of the accident, he should get NAILED for that one. Appaling...never thought too much of him while he was in office.
 
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Sammy the Bull

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doggee_01 said:
regardless of what happened he left the scene and the guy is dead!
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He's a politician and (possibly) some psycho cyclist tried to jump on his car.
No wonder he took off. Also his passenger girlfriend called 9/11 immediately after

So far no charges
 
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dirkstoned said:
Excellent. Put this dink in a cell with some pit bulls
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Ok if they called and waited a safe distance and had reasonable fear for their saftey...then that is somewhat defensable, but they should have stopped just a short dist up the road...
 
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mayfairman said:
the" excuse of trying to protect myself stopped" as soon as he hit the cyclist.
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I didn't see any where that the driver hit the cyclist.
 
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Sammy the Bull

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nottyboi said:
Ok if they called and waited a safe distance and had reasonable fear for their saftey...then that is somewhat defensable, but they should have stopped just a short dist up the road...
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They did, they pulled into the Hyatt (right around the corner) and called 911 from there.

For all he knew the cyclist was trying to kill him
 
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Any speculation as to who did what is just that: speculation. We can all invent scenerios that make the driver look bad or the cyclist look bad. But at this point we don't know what happened, except that a cyclist is dead and the former AG of Ontario was at the wheel of the car.
 
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Sammy the Bull

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Questor said:
Any speculation as to who did what is just that: speculation. We can all invent scenerios that make the driver look bad or the cyclist look bad. But at this point we don't know what happened, except that a cyclist is dead and the former AG of Ontario was at the wheel of the car.
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That will come out the next few days

All I know downtown Toronto is rife with crazy cyclists that weave in and out of traffic, never stopping at stop signs or traffic lights. And if you honk your horn you get the finger in return (or worse like this case)
 
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Sammy the Bull said:
That will come out the next few days

All I know downtown Toronto is rife with crazy cyclists that weave in and out of traffic, never stopping at stop signs or traffic lights. And if you honk your horn you get the finger in return (or worse like this case)
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Sounds like you already know what happened. Good for you.:rolleyes:
 
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Sammy the Bull

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Questor said:
Sounds like you already know what happened. Good for you.:rolleyes:
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I'm not saying that all, but look at some of the posts here already assuming he did a hit & run.
He might be innocent you know
 
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themexi

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nottyboi said:
At the very least he is guilty of the "leaving the scene" charge. No way he can duck that one. In considering the seriousness of the accident, he should get NAILED for that one. Appaling...never thought too much of him while he was in office.
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Actually if he can make a convincing case that he believed that the cyclist was threatening his & his passenger's safety then he CAN avoid getting charged with leaving the scene..... because under the law that will NOT be considered what happened.

If he can prove/convince the court that the cyclist was threatening him & that he shook him off the car because he had genuine fear for his safety, then he is performing his "duty to retreat" under the circumstances.... If he can prove this then he was NOT leaving the scene of an accident...

If it can be proven that the cyclist was clinging to the car & threatening him, making him think that the cyclist was about to climb into his vehicle & cause him imminent harm, then YES he had the legal right to accelerate & shake him off.....

If some punk reaches into my window & tries to carjack me then I CAN floor it & shake his ass off. If he has a weapon all the better... If he is still holding a weapon or I can prove that a Reasonable person might THINK that he still does then I can slam his ass between my car & a brick wall to preserve my safety & as long as I make a good case it won't get past the inquiry stage....

Considering his status & what the extenuating circumstances are he could very possibly be given a great deal of leeway as to what he reasonably believed was happening & his resulting actions....


Like tboy I think I'll wait until we get all the facts available before I crucify the guy...
 
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Guilty of being stupid! Yes!

As a former AG of Ontario, he should have known better than to:
engage in road rage, to possibly have hit and not stopped, and leave the scene. I wonder had he been drinking too. I wonder who his g/f is? Looks like she'll be single.

Michael Bryant should be charged, convicted and become very close friends with Bubba his future cell mate.

It frustrates me that 2 lives are ruined because of a road rage incident, and one of those lives is lost.
 
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From what has been in the press thus far there is insufficient information for any informed discussion, other than to say it is too bad that someone has died.
 
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From a witness account it said this guy was slamming his backpack into to guys car. Enough for me to take off. if the idiot holds on...well..you see what happens.

end of story.

i WOULD BE WILLING TO BET IF HE IS CHARGED HE GETS NOTHING MORE THEN A FINE OR COMMUNITY SERVICE.
 
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SkyRider

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This is a fast moving event. Mr. Bryant has now been charged with criminal negligence causing death and reckless driving causing death.

What would you do if some strange man jumped into your car?

BTW Mr. Bryant quit politics over a disgreement with Premier McGuinty on the HST.
 
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Anynym

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Still a lot of fiction floating among the facts.

The Sun (Ottawa Sun story) has the Police catching the driver just as the car pulled into the Park Hyatt - putting in question the claim that the passenger called police once they arrived there.

The Ottawa Citizen has a more detailed version of events, which, if true, suggest that the driver was indeed fleeing the scene.

I haven't heard any version of events that warrants the use of lethal force, as driving away with someone attached to your vehicle would be.
 
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