Considering a visit

Unfortunately at the advertised price, it is out of my league!

Good Luck

Wow 2 hour minimun and 700$. You better revise your rate...

Yah I definately agree... that price is just out of whack!

KWI said:

Maya,

Don't even bother. You will book 10 appointments, 8 will not show and 2 will cancel. You will get one guy that calls in out of the blue and he will be the only successful booking.

Sorry guy but you have made your bed. I am sure that Maya would have re-adjusted her rates for her tour as most ladies do, but I am so sick and tired of hearing how the Ottawa men beg for talent to come to them and all you guys do is act like jerks, stand ladies up and then come back to TERB to bitch and moan some more.

I have done the Ottawa tour and it was successful about 5 years ago, but now it has all gone to shit. I will warn every women wanting to tour, not to bother going to Ottawa. They would have better chances anywhere else in Canada.

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So sad but so true. How things have changed here for sure.

Smaten up girl... we dont live in L.A. strip... We are not millionnaire for christ sake.

I just did a comment about her price who was far away from the reality. There was no mean to bash the girl.

We have all kind of beautifull women on tour in the Ottawa region and they dont charge that amount of money for there service...

Just a point of vue.

I do not want to have a flame war or mud slinging event here....but there is some truth to your comments, but why be so harsh and negative?

Your comments make all of us look bad...several bad apples do not make the whole basket rotten.

Would you appreciate some one bad mouthing you for a something that you were not responsible for?...I think not....so most of us will not appreciate your comments.

You were last here 5 years ago....you do not have any recent personal experience to make comments like this ......all you have is second hand information to base your judgments on., yet you declare “trade sanctions” on Ottawa based on hearsay.

Think of our frustration level when touring ladies come here and raise their rates, not saying Maya did, to try and make up for no shows......I think there are guys or competition out there trying to stop touring talent.

Here is my take on the situation......if a lady comes here and does not do well....she complains and does not come back. But if she were to come here a couple of times...she could easily build a clientele that would really make things worth while over a short period of time.

Traveling salesmen will attest to this. Sales people do not make the best deals on the first visit to a potential client….they do not give up on an area or clients until they have been there a few times…...it is not till a couple a visits and demonstrations that they get their trust and best business.

So do not bash us please unless you personally come here and have this happen……give the good guys a chance.

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As for the pricing issue.

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I think that was the original comment... 2-hour minimum at $700.00 was too expensive for him.... and I suspect a few others (but that is an assumption).

I did however notice your rates (in the signature block) are “$120/half & $160/hour” so you may understand how “some” may find the $700.00 out-of-their price-range no matter the quality of service.

Its a 2 way street. I had at least 4 SP's cancel or be no shows.. I have never done this to an SP.... $700 is however not going to fly here.

I have done the Ottawa tour and it was successful about 5 years ago, but now it has all gone to shit. I will warn every women wanting to tour, not to bother going to Ottawa. They would have better chances anywhere else in Canada.

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KWI, You absolutely are bashing. You admit you have no recent experience here, and while there have been touring SPs who have had problems here with no shows, many, many don't.

You don't seem to mention them ? The 3 luv sisters, Rachel from Kingston, harmony, elite Canada, Asia Lynn, Jasmin Jazz...etc all have been constant repeat touring Sps in Ottawa.

You may have had a bad experience and want to tell others to stay away, but I'm sure you wouldn't appreciate a customer who saw you 5 years ago coming on the board and telling customers to stay based on his outdated experience.

You're entitled to say what you want to who you want, but you should realize that you are not giving them the whole story, nor can you since you don't work in this area and haven't for many years. It is bashing, and it's petty. I personally thought you were a respectable person before some of your posts this week, but I have lost some respect for because on this personal vendetta you seem to have.

grow up.

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Now I am not trying lumping you all in one category, but honestly sweetie, before you get offended by my point of view, you should look to your fellow Ottawa hobbyist who have made this bed for all of you to lie in.

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Sorry to tell you that the fact is we have more sp touring to Ottawa, and they are prettier than those 5 years ago.

"Sorry guy but you have made your bed."

KWI said:

Maya,

Don't even bother. You will book 10 appointments, 8 will not show and 2 will cancel. You will get one guy that calls in out of the blue and he will be the only successful booking.

" I am sure that Maya would have re-adjusted her rates for her tour as most ladies do, but I am so sick and tired of hearing how the Ottawa men beg for talent to come to them and all you guys do is act like jerks, stand ladies up and then come back to TERB to bitch and moan some more.

I have done the Ottawa tour and it was successful about 5 years ago, but now it has all gone to shit. I will warn every women wanting to tour, not to bother going to Ottawa. They would have better chances anywhere else in Canada.

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"all you guys do is act like jerks,"

OKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!

Will all the Ottawa jerks please stand up. KWI has spoken. Talk about customer relations. Ouch!!!!!

generalizations suck

KWI, you are entitled to your opinion but if you`re going to generalize you have to expect flak. To say all Ottawa guys are jerks is just plain wrong. I`m not a jerk and a lot of the others here aren`t. Yes, SOME are jerks here as there are anywhere. Go pick on them and leave the rest of us alone.

What puzzles me is why there are MANY touring SPs that love it here and claim to never have a no-show. Yet others claim that`s all they get ...... is it the guys or the girls? Some girls = success .... other girls = no success. Think possibly attitude might have something t do with it? Just throwing out an idea for discussion .....

Your vicious attack (yes, that`s how it looks to me) was in response to someone questioning Maya`s rates ...... funny thing is I pop over to the Toronto incall section and the first thread I see is a post about the exact same thing! So are all Toronto guys jerks too? You`re gonna run out of towns where there`s no jerks soon. Now we`re up to millions of jerks.

https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=170437

To Maya`s credit, a comment in that TO incall thread by a mod says "There`s never been a bad word about Maya from those who`ve seen her... only from those who haven`t. Tells you something, doesn`t it?". So one could assume from that comment that she is indeed worth the rate to those who play in that league. There are many in Ottawa that do partake and I`m betting Maya will find most, if not all, are not jerks. I bet she`ll be very successful here. My hobbying budget does not allow for me to partake but as she said, she`s gotten lots of interest.

If you`re gonna generalize you have to know you`re gonna hear about it ... why? Cuz you`re just plain wrong ..... I know several TO (and Ottawa and a few other cities) ladies that will vouch for me (or do you think they`re all jerks for seeing an Ottawa guy?) as there are for many of the guys here.

Only one thing I know for sure came out of all this .... if I`m given the choice of seeing KWI or Sally & Sue, the palm sisters ..... well, I`ve always been partial to twins! *lol*

Maya, you asked opinions about deposits ...... my first thought was that I love to make deposits ....... but I digress ....... I`d suggest perhaps PMing the SPs who do well here and get their opinion. As always with any "policy" there will be some who like it and some who don`t. But KWI seems to only know SPs who fail here (guilt by association??) and it appears you`ve already decided that her advice may not be the best. To learn about success, ask the successful I say .....

Good luck whatever you decide, if you come here enjoy your stay, it`s a beautiful city! Get one of those high roller dudes to give you a tour .......

I have no problem providing a deposit.
I looked at your web pages. I am both very interested and a bit dis-interested. We could hit it off very well, or perhaps not at all.
I can't tell... I am interested in finding out.
(I think I understand "heart centered" too, and I suspect it would fit me well)
However, I'm not so rich that I would be able to spend $700 to find out.
If it were a second meeting, I might save my pennies. If I could find out while in Toronto (on a shorter session), there might be a second visit.

However, I get the concept that one just can't figure it out in less than two hours.

BTW: I have never stood up, but I've been stood up at least four times.
I have cancelled, but never on a visiting lady.

Kwi

TACT only looks like a 4 letter word ............

A quote from your earlier post.........

KWI said:

Get mad at the genrealzation all you want. It is not that I meant "ALL" Ottawa clients are bad, I just think for the cost of touring for the SP vrs. the profit of bookings = loss and a bad joke on the SP. So they should save themselves the trouble.

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funny....how your first post states to stay away...no matter what.....

KWI said:

I will warn every women wanting to tour, not to bother going to Ottawa. They would have better chances anywhere else in Canada.

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For what its worth, I recently had a visit with Summer from GOE when she was in Ottawa, and she stated that 80% of her clients are repeat visits. Although I dont know about this latest trip (I think Nicole from GOE may have some thoughts on this topic), if 80% of clients are repeats, I would think that they tend to show up for their appointments.

Maya, as to your question about deposits, I would be fine with that, but I dont know how I would get you a deposit as I absolutely need to keep my identity discreet (its a "deal killer" for me otherwise), and I think that would apply to many or most of the guys here. That may rule out a visit anyways given the info on your website, but I'm just trying to help. The only thing I can think of is to give a cash deposit for a subsequent visit at the end of the first visit, but that's a bit of a leap of faith on the customers part if the next visit isn't going to be for a while.

And I think KWI, with all due respect, is overgeneralizing a bit. I have never missed an appointment, but I have had a couple cancelled appointments (never a no-show fortunately!). On the other hand, I did try to make a last-minute appointment with FKS to see Delphine Rinaldi during her recent planned visit to Ottawa only to be told by Sydney Lacroix that she left (or maybe even didn't get here) due to cancellations. However ... I just looked at FKS's website and noticed that Delphine is no longer listed, so who knows why her visit didn't work out.

Well Maya and KWI. Thanks for livening the Ott treads!!!

The ladies ask what they want / need and guys are free to see or not to see. Too bad complaining or whining has to accompany so many posts. Not like this is a review thread either.

Oh, as well as no shows, lots of guys don't seem that comfy with women that are capable of being equals or more. Just an observations here, mine of course

Takes all kinds in this world don't it?

its not KWI fault Ottawa has such a bad rep. There are more than a few ladies who will not come to Ottawa because of the above agerge no show rate!!!