Major pet food recall
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Hence the reason I make my pets their own food for the last 3 years.
Don't buy into the bullshit that pets can't eat human food. That's a crock of shit put out by the big corporations that own the pet food manufacturers. (Proctor and Gamble, Colgate Palmolive)
Want healthy pets - feed them meat mixed with some veggies.
Want sick and dying pets - feed them processed pet food, kibble being the worst form of slow poison.
Don't buy into the bullshit that pets can't eat human food. That's a crock of shit put out by the big corporations that own the pet food manufacturers. (Proctor and Gamble, Colgate Palmolive)
Want healthy pets - feed them meat mixed with some veggies.
Want sick and dying pets - feed them processed pet food, kibble being the worst form of slow poison.
My pets get chicken thighs from Costco mixed with ground up veggies from Costco. Undoubedly it costs more than a bag of crud, and it's inconvienient, however, I am convinced of the bennefits in better health and reduced vet bills.
Speaking of vets, half of them are in on the ruse as well - selling "Vet only" pet foods such as Hills Perscription Diet - more crud.
I used to take my pets to the Jane Street Animal Hospital. They PUSH HARD for you to buy their ped food (crud). When my one cat was given a year to live due to kidney failure by them IF I gave her 2 different narcs AND, of course, bought a bag of Hills Perscrption Diet - KD (Kidney Disease).
Blah blah blah, a friend of mine who is an animal NUT recommended a more naturalpathic vet. This lady is a vet, but she believes in common sense. She doesn't sell processed pet foods because she believes it to be counter productive to the health of the animal. She told me that Vets make a TON of money from Vet Pet food sales and that it's pretty much the same crud. That and the sales of narcs.
I found it most interesting coming from a vet. I respect her for standing by her principles rather than caving in to make an easy buck.
Ironically, my former local vet has recently doubled its size - wait for it. To have more space to store all the pet food it sells.
Here's the link:
http://www.janeanimalhospital.ca/site/view/56718_Announcements.pml;jsessionid=amjp9mqnlioa1
We have expanded!! Jane Animal Hospital has opened up next door and is in the process of adding an additional examination room and large food and retail center in order to serve you and your pets better.
Also interestingly, this is what their website says about making your own pet food like I do:
Both cats and dogs should not be fed human food (translation - we're afraid that people are getting smart and the gravy train could get derailed) . Your pet requires specific nutrients in balanced amounts. The best way to achieve this balance is to feed your pet a scientifically formulated diet, backed by years of extensive knowledge in pet nutrition. Pet foods are one area where you usually get what you pay for! (Translation, our pet food is more expensive, hopefully you buy this nonsense that animals can't eat regular food cause otherwise, our goose is cooked.)
It is important to feed high quality pet food, and best to stay away from generic or cheap brands of food. (Translation, buy the expensive shit that we sell, we want the Loblaws market) Cheap brands of food substitute low quality protein sources, which cannot be utilized by your pet. We highly recommend premium, high quality pet food.. These foods are much more concentrated than typical grocery store brands. Although these foods may appear to cost a little more than commercial store brands, over a months time, cost per day is quite comparable. Because the quality diets are concentrated with high quality ingredients, the amount of food fed will be less, and volume of stool production is decreased.
Your best source in finding the best diet for your pet with his/her specific dietary needs in mind , is to consult with your veterinary team. (Translation, ask us, and we'll recommend the crud that we just so happen to have a warehouse full of.)
http://www.janeanimalhospital.ca/site/view/60976_Nutrition.pml
Translation, "Buy the crud we sell at expensive (for crud) prices. Don't make your own healthy pet food - buy the crud we sell"
Speaking of vets, half of them are in on the ruse as well - selling "Vet only" pet foods such as Hills Perscription Diet - more crud.
I used to take my pets to the Jane Street Animal Hospital. They PUSH HARD for you to buy their ped food (crud). When my one cat was given a year to live due to kidney failure by them IF I gave her 2 different narcs AND, of course, bought a bag of Hills Perscrption Diet - KD (Kidney Disease).
Blah blah blah, a friend of mine who is an animal NUT recommended a more naturalpathic vet. This lady is a vet, but she believes in common sense. She doesn't sell processed pet foods because she believes it to be counter productive to the health of the animal. She told me that Vets make a TON of money from Vet Pet food sales and that it's pretty much the same crud. That and the sales of narcs.
I found it most interesting coming from a vet. I respect her for standing by her principles rather than caving in to make an easy buck.
Ironically, my former local vet has recently doubled its size - wait for it. To have more space to store all the pet food it sells.
Here's the link:
http://www.janeanimalhospital.ca/site/view/56718_Announcements.pml;jsessionid=amjp9mqnlioa1
We have expanded!! Jane Animal Hospital has opened up next door and is in the process of adding an additional examination room and large food and retail center in order to serve you and your pets better.
Also interestingly, this is what their website says about making your own pet food like I do:
Both cats and dogs should not be fed human food (translation - we're afraid that people are getting smart and the gravy train could get derailed) . Your pet requires specific nutrients in balanced amounts. The best way to achieve this balance is to feed your pet a scientifically formulated diet, backed by years of extensive knowledge in pet nutrition. Pet foods are one area where you usually get what you pay for! (Translation, our pet food is more expensive, hopefully you buy this nonsense that animals can't eat regular food cause otherwise, our goose is cooked.)
It is important to feed high quality pet food, and best to stay away from generic or cheap brands of food. (Translation, buy the expensive shit that we sell, we want the Loblaws market) Cheap brands of food substitute low quality protein sources, which cannot be utilized by your pet. We highly recommend premium, high quality pet food.. These foods are much more concentrated than typical grocery store brands. Although these foods may appear to cost a little more than commercial store brands, over a months time, cost per day is quite comparable. Because the quality diets are concentrated with high quality ingredients, the amount of food fed will be less, and volume of stool production is decreased.
Your best source in finding the best diet for your pet with his/her specific dietary needs in mind , is to consult with your veterinary team. (Translation, ask us, and we'll recommend the crud that we just so happen to have a warehouse full of.)
http://www.janeanimalhospital.ca/site/view/60976_Nutrition.pml
Translation, "Buy the crud we sell at expensive (for crud) prices. Don't make your own healthy pet food - buy the crud we sell"
Wow!!! I can't believe all of this. I love my puppy so much and she loves chicken and human food. I couldn't say no to her puppy eyes and felt so very guilty when my vet told me that i maybe making her sick with human food. Arggghhh i'm so annoyed that i felt horrible for basically doing the right thing. Alright that's it, i'm ordering kfc for the both of us, lol....
Thanks guys, and i must say that i've learned a lot from terb, it's nice to see that eventhough it is a "adult review board" it is still very informative in many different subjects.
xoxoArielxoxo
Thanks guys, and i must say that i've learned a lot from terb, it's nice to see that eventhough it is a "adult review board" it is still very informative in many different subjects.
xoxoArielxoxo
Some humane food is not good for people, that's why we here so many everweight stories on the news. Don't feed it to the dogs, unless it is well home made food, and not too fattening. Viggies and rice, and chicken broth, or very well cooked meat. Never all chicken because of the bones, if some one doesn't know!
My vet told me it's ok to add a little of your soup or broth from meat. A little trick not to spoil them too much though is to add a little of something that is meat, sausages, rice, boiled eggs - easy to make, but sliced into little tiny pieces and mix with food on regular bases. Because it is not a lot that you give them, it can't really harm them, and makes it much tastier. And in case of healthy food, they will only benefit from it.
My experience, we don't always have time to cook meal for ourselves, that 's why we buy dry dog food, saves time and money. So, I buy "Wellness" brand and just mix other food with it. I don't like olive oil,or fish old myself much, but it is good for you (and the dog), so you can mix with the food once a day, good for healty coat too. You can add warm boiled water to enhance the taste, my dogs like it that way, plus the oil. That is when I am out of other tasty stuff. My dogs love that way. Also, try tuna cans - the ones in water. Just mix a little with dry food, my "children" go crazy fro it. Wonder why they like fish? and fish oil? I cook salmon a lot, so I usually give them the rest of oil - it is very healthy for them. But my vet said that completely raw food is not good for dogs, don't remember why, something to do with digestion - it is different than in people.
About what brand to buy. Tried "Iam's" for many years and I guess it worked ok until my dog had a sergery. He couldn't eat without throwing up, and then didn't want to eat because was feeling sick after (he put 2 and 2 together - smart ). I was suggested to try vet brand, he started loosing his hair, that fricked me out, stopped that. Then, my puppy trainer told me the story about her friend who's dog only would eat freshly preapred food and no any other, the person was stuck cooking for the dog everyday. Well, then the person tried "Wellness", and Bingo - the dog was actually eating. So, I gave it a chance. My dog got well, slowly, but surely. In about couple of month he started acting like a puppy again. He was 7 years old then. I gave the same food for growing up puppy, tried to swtich another brand with her, she refuses to it. So, now my Baby is 11 years old, has a hip problem and thyroid ( all since he was 7 ) , but up to this day I beleive it is "Wellness" that saved him (and added "good " humane food). People say that my dogs have very shiny and healthy looking coat, I didn't gave them a bath for a year! ( I do brush them though).
May be this information will be helpfull to some dog owners. I know that we are all busy peole and don't like spend much time (or money for some of people) in preparing food every day, but combination of dry food with a little human food is not a bad idea.
My vet told me it's ok to add a little of your soup or broth from meat. A little trick not to spoil them too much though is to add a little of something that is meat, sausages, rice, boiled eggs - easy to make, but sliced into little tiny pieces and mix with food on regular bases. Because it is not a lot that you give them, it can't really harm them, and makes it much tastier. And in case of healthy food, they will only benefit from it.
My experience, we don't always have time to cook meal for ourselves, that 's why we buy dry dog food, saves time and money. So, I buy "Wellness" brand and just mix other food with it. I don't like olive oil,or fish old myself much, but it is good for you (and the dog), so you can mix with the food once a day, good for healty coat too. You can add warm boiled water to enhance the taste, my dogs like it that way, plus the oil. That is when I am out of other tasty stuff. My dogs love that way. Also, try tuna cans - the ones in water. Just mix a little with dry food, my "children" go crazy fro it. Wonder why they like fish? and fish oil? I cook salmon a lot, so I usually give them the rest of oil - it is very healthy for them. But my vet said that completely raw food is not good for dogs, don't remember why, something to do with digestion - it is different than in people.
About what brand to buy. Tried "Iam's" for many years and I guess it worked ok until my dog had a sergery. He couldn't eat without throwing up, and then didn't want to eat because was feeling sick after (he put 2 and 2 together - smart ). I was suggested to try vet brand, he started loosing his hair, that fricked me out, stopped that. Then, my puppy trainer told me the story about her friend who's dog only would eat freshly preapred food and no any other, the person was stuck cooking for the dog everyday. Well, then the person tried "Wellness", and Bingo - the dog was actually eating. So, I gave it a chance. My dog got well, slowly, but surely. In about couple of month he started acting like a puppy again. He was 7 years old then. I gave the same food for growing up puppy, tried to swtich another brand with her, she refuses to it. So, now my Baby is 11 years old, has a hip problem and thyroid ( all since he was 7 ) , but up to this day I beleive it is "Wellness" that saved him (and added "good " humane food). People say that my dogs have very shiny and healthy looking coat, I didn't gave them a bath for a year! ( I do brush them though).
May be this information will be helpfull to some dog owners. I know that we are all busy peole and don't like spend much time (or money for some of people) in preparing food every day, but combination of dry food with a little human food is not a bad idea.
Pet food made with NON human grade ingredients is allowed, by law, to contain everything from road kill to slaughter house rejects to the remains of euthanized pets.
No, that's not a misprint, or a lie - euthanized pets are delivered the same processing plants which dispose of collected road kill. It's all then sold in bulk to processing plants which produce meat meals and by products.
Mmm, yummy.
No wonder our pets today have cancers and skin conditions unheard of years ago.
If you wouldn't eat it yourself, or the ingredients wouldn't be legal for you to eat, why would you feed it to your pet?
Morgan
No, that's not a misprint, or a lie - euthanized pets are delivered the same processing plants which dispose of collected road kill. It's all then sold in bulk to processing plants which produce meat meals and by products.
Mmm, yummy.
No wonder our pets today have cancers and skin conditions unheard of years ago.
If you wouldn't eat it yourself, or the ingredients wouldn't be legal for you to eat, why would you feed it to your pet?
Morgan
Myself I do not buy my pets canned pet meat. I only buy them the dry food. I feel that feeding them too much meat is not good for the teeth. They need the dry food to keep their teeth polished and clean. All my pets have very white teeth. For a treat I agree adding the liquid from tuna or salmon and a few of the flakes is an added bonus. Except for my one cat that is prone to getting stones I just feed him science diet from the vets because it is made to break down any crystals and to prevent. They do not sell the type of science diet he requires in the stores. But I will still allow him the water on his food from the tuna and salmon after all I'd hate to have a jealous cat. But, then my dog thinks he is a cat and if he gets a chance will steal the cats food too. Then again he stole some liver off my counter in nothing flat awhile back too. But, there is no way that will hurt him either it is only straight red meat and he ate it raw. There is nothing wrong with a dog eating fresh meat imho, but he should have asked first. 
Actually, according to my good vet, the reverse is true. The kibble is the WORST thing for cats because cats do not have a highly tuned thurst reaction. Many cats out there are completely dehydrated from eating kibble. Being dehydrated leads to kidney disease which is so prevalent in cats today.stacey4u2luv said:Myself I do not buy my pets canned pet meat. I only buy them the dry food. I feel that feeding them too much meat is not good for the teeth. They need the dry food to keep their teeth polished and clean. All my pets have very white teeth.
Also, she said that kibble CAUSES tartar. It is a myth that kibble somehow scraps off tartar.
She said to me, "it's like you eathing crackers and arrow root cookies" "If you look at your teeth after eating crackers, the back ones will be coated with a paste which if you don't brush off, turns to tartar."
I believe her because it was a tartar build up on my pet's teeth that was responsible for me discovering she had kidney disease, which brought me to my good vet.
Cats are pure 100% carnivores. Kibble is made from wheat and wheat by-products. Neither cats nor dogs should EVER be fed any sort of grains, nor should they ever be fed white rice. They simply can't handle it, it gets turned into sugar and stored as fat (much like humans).
Another extremely important nutrient with respect to overall health is water. It is very important for a cat to ingest water with its food, as the cat does not have a very strong thirst drive. This is a critical point. This lack of a strong thirst drive leads to low-level, chronic dehydration when dry food makes up the bulk of their diet. Cats are designed to obtain most of their water with their diet since their normal prey contains ~70% water. Dry foods only contain ~10% water whereas canned foods contain ~78% water. Canned foods therefore more closely approximate the natural diet of the cat and are better suited to meet the cat's water needs. A cat consuming a predominantly dry-food diet does drink more water than a cat consuming a canned food diet, but in the end, when water from all sources is added together (what's in their diet plus what they drink), the cat on dry food consumes approximately HALF the amount of water compared with a cat eating canned foods. This is a crucial point when one considers how common kidney and bladder problems are in the cat.
Link to rest...
http://www.homevet.com/petcare/feedingyourcat.html
Here's an interesting website into the pet food industry.
http://iml.jou.ufl.edu/projects/Spring04/Perhach/PetFood/Processing.htm
http://iml.jou.ufl.edu/projects/Spring04/Perhach/PetFood/Processing.htm
Well, then I will just keep my fingers crossed for my pets sakes that the adding of the additional oils or waters from my canned meats will help eleviate any possible problems. Truly, I do not trust any vets completely unless it is to diagnose a problem in which case you can only do what you feel is best for your pets. I believe every one is out to make money on sells of pet foods, but luckily for my one cat the science diet seems to work, but I still will not buy him the canned science diet as I feel it is better to give him some real stuff in there too.
I agree cats and dogs are meant to be carnivores and that is also why if I give them meat I do preffer it to be real meat, but not something off of the dinner table or scraps. I guess like all things a little bit of everything is what any body needs to survive to be sure you are getting all the proper nutrition. In the end we all live day to day and hope for the best. Now maybe I will increase on some fresh meats for my pets.
I agree cats and dogs are meant to be carnivores and that is also why if I give them meat I do preffer it to be real meat, but not something off of the dinner table or scraps. I guess like all things a little bit of everything is what any body needs to survive to be sure you are getting all the proper nutrition. In the end we all live day to day and hope for the best. Now maybe I will increase on some fresh meats for my pets.
Wow thanks hun I will also increase on adding more tuna water to thier dry food.james t kirk said:
