Selective racism and the community?

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shoeguy

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Hi Everyone,
I'm a long time listener, first time caller to this arena of extra curricular activities. And unfortunately it has been a negative one.

I am a clean cut, professional Asian. I was looking for a BBW to spend a couple of hours with, and to you BBW enthusiasts know there are only a handful in Toronto. So I finally found a profile of a very attractive woman, we'll call her "Mandy", we spoke on the phone twice, and was very friendly. We arranged to meet at her location.

When I arrived however, her attitude was completely lack luster. I was invited in, and sat in her living room for about 10 minutes. Her companion then comes in to the room and informs me that "Mandy" only reserves time for African Canadian and Caucasian men, and she is sorry for the miscommunication.

Needless to say, I am very shaken up, and extremely upset that this has happened.

so I am wondering if there have there been any other situations that are been similar?

Thanks!
ShoeGuy
 
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If she doesn't put her preferences on her profile she obviously thinks it's racist too. While she has the right to see or refuse whomever she wants she should at least communicate this prior to wasting your time.
I'd be pissed as well.
 
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dajodo2

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If she doesn't like asians than she should have asked if you were one when booking instead of wasting your valuable time, gas etc.

I don't think a womans preference matters when cash is involved, yours does.

In real world dating it's a different story of course.

Why are you withholding the real fake name she uses to conduct business? This is (supposedly) a web site to share with other men your experience with a specific escort to help them decide whom to see or not.

I see Porta Love has the proper attitude.
 
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shoeguy

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Okay, I can to some point agree with Mao. Preference may be correct, but it's a bloody shame to drive out to Pickering, just to get rejected. There was also no reference to her preferences on her website or our telephone conversation.
 
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HAMSTER INSPECTOR

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If she was standing behind the counter at Harveys and refused you service, would that be racist? If shw was an Air Canada stewardess and refused to give you a glass of water, would that be racist? She is not a girl you met in a bar, she had already agrred to a meeting at her place, the arrangement was understood. She refused to go through with the arrangement because she had a personal preferance to certain ethnicities. Thats called racism.
 
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Berlin

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Things like that do happen, at the last minute. Having said that ...

shoeguy said:
...Preference may be correct, but it's a bloody shame to drive out to Pickering, just to get rejected. There was also no reference to her preferences on her website or our telephone conversation.
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her pref should have been more up front and clear on her profile. Saves her time, saves everyone's time. My $ .02.
 
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Discrimination can come in many forms. I have been told that I am too old (late 30's), and that my larger stature means that I am less hygenic than more fit gentlemen. Both times I was refused service. It sucks, but it happens.
 
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elmo

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I don't see the issue, I only want to fuck what I consider to be hot chicks, why cant the women only fuck what they consider to be hot guys?
 
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dajodo2

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I'm sure she gave him twenty bucks for canceling at the door and wasting his time once she saw him like they expect us to.:rolleyes:

The double standard once again.

Expose her!
 
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elmo said:
I don't see the issue, I only want to fuck what I consider to be hot chicks, why cant the women only fuck what they consider to be hot guys?
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That's not an issue in the real world.

This is not the real world.

You'd be fine with it if an escort turned you away based on your looks after booking with you and not be compensated for it?

She was in the wrong.
 
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Mongrel4u

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dajodo2 said:
I don't think a womans preference matters when cash is involved, yours does.

In real world dating it's a different story of course.
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God.. Thank You.

I dont think I've ever seen eye to eye with you before.. but this is certainly a first. Many Hobbiests confuse business and personal all the time
 
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Mongrel4u

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dajodo2 said:
I'm sure she gave him twenty bucks for canceling at the door and wasting his time once she saw him like they expect us to.

The double standard once again.

Expose her!
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I find it funny how its ok to charge a guy for a cancellation fee yet they think its ok to waste a guy's time and money

and why is it when an SP wastes someones time/money and or scams someone.. nobody wants to say who it is... why are you protecting someone that shows absolutely no respect for you? :rolleyes:
 
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elmo

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dajodo2 said:
That's not an issue in the real world.

This is not the real world.

You'd be fine with it if an escort turned you away based on your looks after booking with you and not be compensated for it?

She was in the wrong.
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If this is as large a problem as you indicate, perhaps you should ask the lady in advance. This isn't dreamland...
 
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shoeguy said:
Hi Everyone,
I'm a long time listener, first time caller to this arena of extra curricular activities. And unfortunately it has been a negative one.

I am a clean cut, professional Asian. I was looking for a BBW to spend a couple of hours with, and to you BBW enthusiasts know there are only a handful in Toronto. So I finally found a profile of a very attractive woman, we'll call her "Mandy", we spoke on the phone twice, and was very friendly. We arranged to meet at her location.

When I arrived however, her attitude was completely lack luster. I was invited in, and sat in her living room for about 10 minutes. Her companion then comes in to the room and informs me that "Mandy" only reserves time for African Canadian and Caucasian men, and she is sorry for the miscommunication.

Needless to say, I am very shaken up, and extremely upset that this has happened.

so I am wondering if there have there been any other situations that are been similar?

Thanks!
ShoeGuy
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She should have made her client restrictions clear in her profile or when you phoned. She wasted your time. There are many BBWs who I am sure would be happy to see you.

The hobby sometimes works in strange ways. Don't take it personally.
 
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elmo said:
If this is as large a problem as you indicate, perhaps you should ask the lady in advance. This isn't dreamland...
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and there it is again...shift blame to the client and protect the individual that bears a pussy :rolleyes:


Sure, he could have asked and SOME blame goes to him for that. But really why should he have to ask such a silly question? "uhhh do you see asian guys?"...this is BUSINESS not a dating service. Shes the one with the issue, she should be the one to communicate her "constraints"
 
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elmo said:
I don't see the issue, I only want to fuck what I consider to be hot chicks, why cant the women only fuck what they consider to be hot guys?
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They can, and that is their choice and I agree with it. My disappointment has come from not being denied service, but the disregard for my time, and the expenses it took for me to make it to the location for the reason that I was not notified of discriminitory limitations at the time of booking.

In fairness, both of these ladies were independants, so I had blacklisted them, even after I lost a ton of weight. If they were from an agency, I would have been in touch with the owner to express my concerns, but quite likely, I would have black listed the agency as well. I have the gut feeling (though no proof), that if an agency escort were to cancel too many appointments they would not last too long at the agency. This could be due to lost revenue to the agency, or possibly a decline in the agency's reputation because of bad reviews, or even cash out of the agency owners pocket from giving discounts to correct a bad situation.

Good, bad, or indifferent, women in the industry have the possibility of making a ton of cash (and tax free), the kind that many of us can only dream of. If for example a woman made $150/hr per person that she saw, she would only have to see 2 clients per day to make a far better living than most Canadians. An income like this allows a person to be more selective in the people they choose to see. I am not debating the fact whether this is right or wrong, it's just the way it is.
 
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Shoe.. don't get upset or shaken up. Just get pissed off that she wasted your time and gas. I don't think it's racism either, as despite the fact that most of us see these interactions as business transactions, on her part it's a little more complicated than just money. IF you went to see her, and she wasn't BBW enough for you, would it be racism if you decided to walk away? Nope, just you sticking to your preference. But then she'd have grounds to be pissed off at you for not telling her you had a minimum-mass requirement from the ladies you chose to do business with.

Capeesh? Just go find another fat-bottomed girl and make your world go around.

- EC.
 
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Mongrel4u

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elmo said:
I don't see the issue, I only want to fuck what I consider to be hot chicks, why cant the women only fuck what they consider to be hot guys?
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LMAO.. this hobby has really screwed your brain up hasnt it.

Hotness goes by a case by case basis...it doesnt apply to an entire race :rolleyes:

Take an SP who only sees white guys.... are you assuming that she only sees white guys because all white guys are "hot" in her opinion?? ...all the old, fat, no personality guys that walk through the door right? Of all the white clients that she will gladly see, how many of them do you think are actually hot??

I dont know the numbers but I'm willing to guess that its something close to 1 in 20 guys (maybe even 30 or 40)...those arent good odds but they gladly see them anyways.
 
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stinkynuts

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Suppose a man who was hideously ugly and deformed arrived at her door, and she was so repulsed that she didn't want to go through with him. THEN I could understand her refusing to see him, and she doesn't have to put in her ad "Will not see hideously ugly men." Because that's kind of common sense.

But it isn't common practice or common sense to reject a client based on their race, without such a disclaimer in your ad. If it isn't there, then it's implied that you will see people of all races. She should have also mentioned this policy when booking. He has every right to be pissed for her wasting his time and gas money, and being subjected to that kind of humiliation.
 
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