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TigerFlex5

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In the thread "The Best SP and MA in 2018" https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?657850-The-Best-SP-and-MA-in-2018&p=6296482#post6296482, discussions occurred about where to align the Hybrid providers.


CuddleBuddy2 said:
I was wondering if there should be a category for Hybrid providers as well ? Some ladies combine the 2 services for an amazing experience.
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TigerFlex5 said:
I though about it but because there is such a thin line between Hybrid and SP, I think it will confuse some people (I think.... maybe not!)
However, in my opinion, things should be clear when you go see a provider, but it's not always clear.

- Sometime, you go see a MA, things get heated, chemistry is at RDV and you end up with more services that just MA's limits. Is she a hybrid? Maybe, maybe not. In a case like that, you should considerate her as a MA and vote as accordingly.

- You start seeing a MA but she also offers SP services; she's hybrid. Things must be clear, you walked in to see her as a MA, not as a SP, you should vote for her as a MA, even if things got heated and you had SP services unless a clear argument came at one point of the session that you are getting SP services and pay for it. If you walked in, you know from the beginning that you will have SP services, she knows she will provides SP services, you should vote for her as a SP.

Does that make sense? Your thoughts...

There are some providers that are Hybrids but will not automatically provide SP services to clients.
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jasian14 said:
It's makes sense to me.The lines do get blurry so between MA and SP when you go beyond MA limits. Hybrid is a bit confusing to me too but I only see MAs that I like so it's doesn't matter if they are hybrid or not.
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whiteman said:
I think the way to distinguish between an MA, an SP, and a hybrid is that the hybrid will offer both types of services, but she will strictly adhere to limitations of each type of service when requested.
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splistkeeper said:
This may be better discussed elsewhere.
I feel the term Hybrid is quite broad and may need to be redefined or have other key words come into play to better define what type of provider an individual is or what they offer. Hybrid can be used for any MA who offers more than a h/j yet can still remain a fair distance to what a SP offers. ie: daty,dato, cfs. An MA who doesn't kiss but offers cbj and daty with a dental dam with nothing else is seen as being Hybrid while an MA who offers lfk, dfk, daty, dato, bbbj, cfs, rimming, Greek is also viewed as being Hybrid when in reality these two are actually far apart in regards to what they offer.

splistkeeper,
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whiteman said:
In actual, fact the distinctions between MA and SP were always a little artificial and arbitrary. The distinctions first came into effect several decades ago, during an era when certain types of actions were considered legal while others were considered illegal. These days, those artificial distinctions don't exist in the eyes of the law, a woman is free to offer whatever services she pleases, so no judgments are made between HJ and BJ, massage & FS, etc. I think the distinction still exists because we're all so used to it existing.
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What do you think about this?
It would be nice to have the opinion of either clients and providers.
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I agree there should be better distinctions for independent hybrid MAs. Something similar to "Partial Hybrid" and "Fully Hybrid", maybe even a third "Extreme Hybrid".

For MAs there is GFE and non GFE, these can be found on The GFE MA list but we know this bar is set very low as it doesn't include a legal act in this industry which is kissing. SPs have GFE and PSE, not including FS these are defined mostly by safe services to unsafe services but Hybrid encompasses any MA who offers anything more than manual release. It is how it is here and in my experience I find most MA guys tend to be more tight lipped on sharing provider information even privately. I feel I absorb information easily and help others here when I can but in the few times I've started a thread looking for information for a specific MA I get *crickets, so be it and it's far from the end of the world. I've been hobbying for a number of years considering my age but I'm far from cracking the Hybrid MA Da Vinci code.

I have allot of respect for whiteman and a few times he has expressed there isn't much difference between hybrid MAs and SPs but with all due respect this is ones view from the inside looking out, from the outside looking in my perception is different. Many times on MA threads I've read something like, "Repeat to see if she will offer more later" but I, for one, am not about to spend my hard earned money on every MA who is of interest to me only to find out they don't offer what I seek. I'm a fan of spinners and there are dozens of MAs I find appealing but I shy away from being disappointed after spending my money.
 
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Aren't hybrid just SPs that can provide MA services?

While MAs are providers that doesn't do any SP services.

Why are we blurring the lines?
 
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From what ladies have told me, the main reason the term "hybrid" is used is to facilitate offering different services to different clients. Trying to create a list of hybrid providers that outlines what each provider offers isn't possible. Most of these providers deliberately do not offer a set list of services. Also, most would not likely appreciate being on a list like that. Their regular clients know this and respect this, which is why one might get "crickets" when asking for specifics.

If you want a set list of services, go see an SP. Also, considering the nature of this business, the reality is that chemistry, familiarity, commitment level, etc. are often significant factors. Too many guys on this board don't seem to get this.
 
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This whole hybrid designation confuses the fuck out of me. Hybrid seems to mean she can be an SP if she feels like it, and an MA other times. If an MA wants to be an SP, why does she not just be an SP who offers massage services, these types of SP have been around forever.

If a Hybrid is choosing that designation because she feels she has more control over who she provides SP services to, that's a fallacy. SPs ALWAYS have the choice to withhold services or decline services to a client for any reason. I don't see a benefit to having a Hybrid designation, many SPs have separate massage rates for those who do not want FS or other SP type services, yet want to see the SP for whatever reason.

I guess it's like anything else, they make up a new name for something that has been around forever to make it seem new and/or different. I guess it's a no harm - no foul kind of deal. Or maybe I'm missing something ...... enlighten me if so.
 
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Just a reminder: We're in a YMMV environment. Certain MAs may become 'Hybrid' after one or a few sessions. She might be 'hybrid' with many clients but not with me and vice versa. I've seen MAs that are totally MA standards, according to this forum, but I had FS. Who knows? And like maseeker pointed out, you could push a MA up sheets creek if you started talking too much about her in this thread. (I'm talking about Spa MAs)
 
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StillROAMing

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I don't think MPAs offer anything more than a simple release, I've usually only been interested in indy MAs.
I don't pay for sex with SPs either, I pay for their time.

To the gents who sent a PM, Thank you. :yo:
 
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asuran said:
Aren't hybrid just SPs that can provide MA services?

While MAs are providers that doesn't do any SP services.

Why are we blurring the lines?
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I think this is because MA's in Ottawa are offering SPs services.

Personally, I think you are either one or the other. If you are an MA who offers more mileage, then you are still an MA. But then in Toronto, that is kind of norm.
 
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OnTheWayOut

Then again, this whole Hybrid thing gives a new meaning when a guy says "my ride is a hybrid" :behindsofa:
 
CuddleBuddy2

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My understanding of a Hybrid is an Indy provider who advertises as an MA as well as an SP. Also the SP session includes a SF2, massage, FS and other SP services.
I would rate a Hybrid GFE provider higher over a regular SP GFE provider because the overall experience/service is better. Most SPs don't offer SF2 or a massage from my experience, so a Hybrid has an edge over a regular SP. So if I had to vote between an SP and a HP, my vote would go to a HP if the SP services were equally good. That's why I was wondering if it's fair to the good SPs to compete with Hybrid Providers in the "The Best SP and MA in 2018" thread. Hope that makes sense.
 
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CuddleBuddy2 said:
My understanding of a Hybrid is an Indy provider who advertises as an MA as well as an SP. Also the SP session includes a SF2, massage, FS and other SP services.
I would rate a Hybrid GFE provider higher over a regular SP GFE provider because the overall experience/service is better. Most SPs don't offer SF2 or a massage from my experience, so a Hybrid has an edge over a regular SP. So if I had to vote between an SP and a HP, my vote would go to a HP if the SP services were equally good. That's why I was wondering if it's fair to the good SPs to compete with Hybrid Providers in the "The Best SP and MA in 2018" thread. Hope that makes sense.
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I think it's fair for the SPs to compete with HPs. If you received SPs services with a HP, you assess her abilities as SP but if you stayed under MAs limits with her, you assess her as a MA. You assess your entire experience with the provider. Some SPs do offer SF2 and massage. Not a lot, not always, but there are. And by the way, I had sessions with HPs that will never be able to surpass some SPs sessions


CuddleBuddy2 said:
Hope that makes sense.
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Of course
 
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whiteman said:
It's also quite normal in Ottawa too (for indies), but in Ottawa, the terminology gets played up quite a bit for some reason.
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You mean people in Ottawa have created more redundant bureaucracy? Imagine that! :nod:

I for one, at the beginning of hobbying with spa MAs, had to ask if they do full service. It sometimes made the session awkward when they declined. That also eventually led me here so now I can figure it out quite easily. You can also talk to the girl up front when you book and see if she is a spa MA what her limits are.
 
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Used to interpret a hybrid as a SP that would advertise as a MA, as to be able to screen whom she would want to ( or not) supply with extended services .

Now that is sort of out the window lately with providers advertising actually saying they are Hybrid ,, example , Allison xox .

I sort of liked seeking out SP ,s and getting extra services ,, makes a guy feel special :) . .. Still hoping for A. Vivian ,lol
 
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CuddleBuddy2 said:
My understanding of a Hybrid is an Indy provider who advertises as an MA as well as an SP. Also the SP session includes a SF2, massage, FS and other SP services.
I would rate a Hybrid GFE provider higher over a regular SP GFE provider because the overall experience/service is better. Most SPs don't offer SF2 or a massage from my experience, so a Hybrid has an edge over a regular SP. So if I had to vote between an SP and a HP, my vote would go to a HP if the SP services were equally good. That's why I was wondering if it's fair to the good SPs to compete with Hybrid Providers in the "The Best SP and MA in 2018" thread. Hope that makes sense.
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That definition is the same as a SP from my understanding.

Many SPs do massage. I have a massage table in my room. It is a great way to start a session.

I don't see SF2 being the only thing that seperates the two.

It is just by your definition I would be considered a hybrid. And I don't consider myself a highbred I consider myself an escort. An escort to me is somebody who encompasses massage attendant services stripper services etc. We are the ones who offer all of the services where the other service providers are the ones who offer a limited amount of service based on their classification.

This is why I am so confused. It just seems a bunch of MAs are using hybrid to screen and give some service to some and different service to others and this is the way to get away with extreme YMMV.
 
TigerFlex5

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It does make a lot of sense.
Jessica, please educate me... does the Toronto scene use the term "Hybrid"? Is this an Ottawa thing?
 
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