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13 minutes of Hillary lies, bullshit and flipflops

eznutz

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You got to love how the Washington Post has turned on her.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...nton-isnt-unbeatable-in-the-general-election/
Yes, Hillary Clinton is beatable in the general election. Just watch this video.

The video above — 13 minutes devoted to Hillary Clinton's shifting position on lots and lots of issues — has been viewed almost 7 million times since it was originally posted by someone named "Michael Armstrong" back in mid-January....what the video does do very effectively is remind you that (a) Clinton has been around the political game for a very, very long time and (b) her positions on things like gay marriage, Wall Street regulation/reform and a host of other issues have changed — often markedly — over time.

And those two facts are what make predictions about how Donald Trump simply has no chance against Clinton in the fall so tenuous. As I have written, there's no question that Clinton — thanks in large part to entrenched demographic and electoral college realities — starts the general election as a favorite and is more likely than Trump to be the 45th president.

But to simply assume that hands the election to Clinton ignores the fact that she is a candidate with major image problems in the eyes of broad swaths of the American public. Large majorities in poll after poll say that they don't believe that Clinton is honest or trustworthy. Anecdotally, her allies have even admitted lately that she struggles to come across as authentic and connect with voters.

These are not easy problems to solve. Clinton, as the video ably demonstrates, has a very long record of public statements that she will be made to answer for. And, again as the video shows, she has a number of contradictory positions over time.

Clinton will, of course, try to explain away these seeming contradictions as simply an evolution in her thinking over time. It might work, particularly against a candidate like Trump whose numbers on questions of honesty and trustworthiness are even worse than Clinton's and who is what you find when you look up "flawed messenger" in the dictionary.

But Trump is also two things that Clinton is definitely not: New to politics and perceived as being wholly authentic. Those are two very powerful factors in an election — and with an electorate — like this one. And, as the video shows, there is lots and lots of fodder for Trump to cast Clinton as the ur-example of a pandering politician who doesn't believe a word she says.

That, too, could work.
 

IM469

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You got to love how the Washington Post has turned on her.
And they love Trump and his straight talk truth ???

Few stand in Trump’s way as he piles up the Four-Pinocchio whoppers : https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...f5e16a-12ff-11e6-8967-7ac733c56f12_story.html

Trump’s false claim that ‘there’s nothing to learn’ from his tax returns : https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...theres-nothing-to-learn-from-his-tax-returns/

Donald Trump is constantly lying/ The past week has made it very clear that Donald Trump has zero concern about the truth. :https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/11/23/donald-trump-is-constantly-lying/

Donald Trump: Stonewaller, shape-shifter, liar
: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...4129bc-1c49-11e6-9c81-4be1c14fb8c8_story.html

Clinton has a some political skeletons in her closet - Trump's entire life and campaign has been one continuous lie after another. Faking a publicist to brag about himself, evading the draft, making fun of war veterans - how can anyone possibly sink low enough to seriously consider this man presidential material ? I guess you can cherry pick unique lies from a pathological liars list to create your own fictional super candidate.
 

eznutz

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And they love Trump and his straight talk truth ???

Few stand in Trump’s way as he piles up the Four-Pinocchio whoppers : https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...f5e16a-12ff-11e6-8967-7ac733c56f12_story.html

Trump’s false claim that ‘there’s nothing to learn’ from his tax returns : https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...theres-nothing-to-learn-from-his-tax-returns/

Donald Trump is constantly lying/ The past week has made it very clear that Donald Trump has zero concern about the truth. :https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/11/23/donald-trump-is-constantly-lying/

Donald Trump: Stonewaller, shape-shifter, liar
: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...4129bc-1c49-11e6-9c81-4be1c14fb8c8_story.html

Clinton has a some political skeletons in her closet - Trump's entire life and campaign has been one continuous lie after another. Faking a publicist to brag about himself, evading the draft, making fun of war veterans - how can anyone possibly sink low enough to seriously consider this man presidential material ? I guess you can cherry pick unique lies from a pathological liars list to create your own fictional super candidate.
all you've proven is Trump and Clinton are the exact same, according to the Washington Post.
 

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I love her plan of making Bill recreate his economic "miracle". Which means that she cannot handle it, maybe Bill should run instead and most importantly, Hillary the feminist icon, needs her cheating husband to take the lead on the most important portfolio. Little wonder her negatives are right up there with Trump's - minus the personality.
 

Polaris

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all you've proven is Trump and Clinton are the exact same, according to the Washington Post.
A very reasonable and objective statement.

How they differ, is that Trump is determined to build the Great of America, and retreat from foreign commitments wherever feasible, the sooner the better.

Isolationism to support the American middle class.

Hillary is a neo-con. She is a 1%er who is close to Wall Street, probably the closest of any presidential candidate. She wants to give more $$$ to the welfare queens and welfare kings. Between the Wall Street file, and the welfare food stamps file, when will she have time for the middle class?
 

eznutz

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A very reasonable and objective statement.

How they differ, is that Trump is determined to build the Great of America, and retreat from foreign commitments wherever feasible, the sooner the better.

Isolationism to support the American middle class.

Hillary is a neo-con. She is a 1%er who is close to Wall Street, probably the closest of any presidential candidate. She wants to give more $$$ to the welfare queens and welfare kings. Between the Wall Street file, and the welfare food stamps file, when will she have time for the middle class?
While both have found it politically expedient to lie/flip-flop, the biggest difference is Donald has only been doing it for 1 year whereas Hillary has been doing it for 40 years.
 

onthebottom

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She's a sociopathic neocon that the left and center are being asked to love - not going that well - see Nevada.
 

K Douglas

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Only 13 minutes? I'm sure you could easily come up with 60.
 
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