Excellent point. The comparisons between here and the US are getting ridiculous, completely overlooking the different political culture, distorted notion of 'liberty', etc.There is one huge difference between C-36 and the laws of prostitution in the states of the US. In the US it is illegal from each side as you stated. In C-36, the providers get immunity. The provider won't care to go through the hassles of screening because she is not going to care if you are LE or not. The customer is going to care. Is he going to set up screening for you? Will the provider even want to waste time on that? In the US, both sides try to be careful and do their due diligence because the consequences are equal for both. With C-36, the consequences are lopsided.
Good advice.If you must then still you can continue safely. Travel to where it is legal and less expensive (Latin America, Easter Europe, South East Asia) but please be very careful as there are lots of forced and trafficked girls in those regions. To avoid those bad elements but still to be relatively safe, travel to big cities like Toronto and Montreal and take outcall to a hotel. Use hotel phone to call. And Only call those who have been with an agency for at least a week or established independents. It is not the end of the world. You can still continue if you must.
If you actually buy weed there then it's possible, sure. Really depends on enforcement - that law isn't very heavily enforced these days. But it used to be.oh ya?
my mechanic sells weed. Bags of the shit.
I go there to get my car fixed.
I'm gonna get arrested for buying weed though, right?
What am I so freaked out about? I'm not freaked out about anything. i am simply correcting a bunch of people who are posting inaccurate, wrong, and misleading information. That seems to have got your panties in a knot, and MJL's, and the two of you go ape every time I point out the facts of this situation. To the point where you have both now abandoned logical argument and begun in on trying to assassinate my character, which is pretty bloody pathetic really -- I guess people here can see through that, though, so it will ultimately backfire on the two of you.You always tend to avoid certain questions, why is that?
Ummm, did everyone miss the part of the senate hearings that pointed out that the gov can't legally give immunity? They can charge the sex worker on a # of other offenses.
Did you guys not know you could be arrested before c36?
The risks associated with each side are different, yet equally important. A sex workers safety is as important as a clients record. Why fight about who's more at risk? That's silly.
Ever hear about the SP down in the States who ran a legit yoga studio. She escorted won't if it. Guys who say her for hawt yoga got busted. Those who didn't, didn't.oh ya?
my mechanic sells weed. Bags of the shit.
I go there to get my car fixed.
I'm gonna get arrested for buying weed though, right?
They don't need any evidence though, in fact all my communication with him is regarding mechanical work on my car ....
but just the fact that he sells weed sometimes is enough proof to convict me of buying it?
hardly dude. Gawd.... you sound ridiculous.
She got busted because she mixed her businesses and used her real name, then all it took was one person to start blogging about her. Also she and her 'accomplice' were keeping "meticulous" records with clients' real names, and sharing videos of the sessions.Ever hear about the SP down in the States who ran a legit yoga studio. She escorted won't if it. Guys who say her for hawt yoga got busted. Those who didn't, didn't.
Reputable Toronto escorts and agencies are a lot smarter and more careful than she was.In the area around Kennebunk, it was an open secret long before the scandal broke that Alexis Wright led a double life. “I knew about this story,” one lawyer who is involved tells me. “A client called me. He said, ‘Look, there’s a woman in town who’s a Zumba instructor. She’s a prostitute on the side. I’ve seen her and I’m worried.’ ”
“Why [are you worried]?” the lawyer says he asked.
“Because I’ve seen this blog,” the client responded.
The blog in question, Alexiswrightzumbateacherpornstar, began with an anonymous entry on August 30, 2010:
If anyone knows Alexis Wright from Kennebunk Maine you probably think she’s a sweet, friendly Zumba teacher . . . the funny thing is she’s not! she’s living a double life & is a porn star!!!!! she may be a prostitute for all I know ... all you have to do is google her full name (which is pretty ridiculous that she goes by that) & you’ll see her doing all kinds of nasty sexual acts with married old men, herself & other females.
What does that have to do with people here on terb fighting over who's more at risk?? Or unicorns?Yes, agreed that we could get busted for being found ins. But, many of us, including clients of your spa deliberately made choices to go to spas that Let's just say that with C36, shit got real. Safety for all is a nice sentiment, but I think you're chasing unicorns. Maybe you have chivalrous clients. Maybe your clients are different. But do you really think that, as a whole, clients would put their safety or privacy behind their fave girl? (Let's turn to the many "dating an MPA" threads for insight on the psychology of both sides...).
As as for all this legal advice, my experience with lawyers is that almost anything can be rationalized. I will bet Miss Jessica that her lawyer(s) has not guaranteed that she won't be charged. They've just said that valid defenses exist or that the law can be challenged.
Lawyers don't make money unless people get into trouble.
if I a buck every time a trial lawyer mention how one of his/her corporate or tax law partners had given an opinion on the very transaction being litigated...lol
btw, I agree with Fuji. Judges aren't stupid, and consideration isn't just money. It can be barter, it can be a transfer of economic benefit. It counts whether you pay her cash, buy her a car or pay down her car loan. That's all well established in law. But you can talk about spending time with a girl half your age for 240 roses if that makes you feel better.
For Fuck sakes!What does that have to do with people here on terb fighting over who's more at risk?? Or unicorns?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2n2VVTUXHgACan we please leave the poor helpless unicorn victims out this?
Even if there is an inaugural enforcement blitz, I would wager that the risk of catching an STD is greater than for being convicted under C36. (probably not HIV, but other STD's )I think many people here have a whole lot to lose, and in the end people need to weigh the risks against the rewards, kind of like people weighing whether we should engage in these activities, knowing that we can contract an STD.
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Wait a minute, I thought you worked in a restaurant and lived alone in a bachelor suite? Guess I haven't attention to the Lounge in recent years. Never mind.I suppose if I end up convicted, lose my job, and future potential of any gainful employment, can't support my family, end up being ostracised by friends and family,..
Anyway wouldn't it be interesting if the Feds did somehow motivate a nation-wide enforcement push, which four years from now leads to some 200'000 mostly working people to having criminal record, becoming welfare recipients by the end of Reforms' next mandate and this artificial drag on prosperity ends up being the thing that sinks them/
The conservatives are in trouble right now losing in almost all the poles. The next election is tentatively going to take place October 19, 2015. That means that they are going to be on over drive to prove to Canadians that they are the moral choice to take us into the next government. Now Justice is going to need some good cases that will generate news. So they are going to be placing pressure on the prosecution and police services to get things done.I'm no lawyer, but technically if you've ever jay walked, ever drove over the speed limit, ever downloaded a movie or song off the internet, then your a criminal too. If I pay to get my dick sucked, the lawyers and courts will decide whether I'm a criminal, but I still know that I did nothing that is unethical.
By the way, if I buy a Hermes bag for a gold digger who sleeps with me that night. That's prostitution too. In fact all trophy wives that marry old rich geezers for their money are whores. So what is Harper gonna do about those people?
Ummm, what? Poltics IS government.The conservatives are in trouble right now losing in almost all the poles. The next election is tentatively going to take place October 19, 2015. That means that they are going to be on over drive to prove to Canadians that they are the moral choice to take us into the next government. Now Justice is going to need some good cases that will generate news. So they are going to be placing pressure on the prosecution and police services to get things done.
Now I know we live in a free country where politics are supposed to be at an arm’s length from Government. Well that is just wishful thinking because after a certain rank in the LE forces it becomes purely political appointments.
Many people have large ambitions and will do anything to get to the top. People are always more afraid to lose their job than doing the right thing.
So I say be careful because chances are the poor sucker already got picked and is just a matter of time before they get him or her.
You keep saying things like this. Can you show us some supporting facts? Find us some court cases where this happened.Here is some legal advice, free of charge:
C36 makes it a crime to purchase sex. Canadian police will have no more difficulty than police in other democracies enforcing that law if they choose to. The only difference is that they won't bring charges against the escort.
Lots of people with criminal records thought not mentioning what the money was really for would protect them.
Wow, you remember that from years ago! LOL. Yeah, things have changed for me.... Doing pretty good now.Even if there is an inaugural enforcement blitz, I would wager that the risk of catching an STD is greater than for being convicted under C36. (probably not HIV, but other STD's )
However it makes sense to pay attention, be conscious of potential problems and prepare to confront worst case scenarios even you don't believe it will come to that.
Wait a minute, I thought you worked in a restaurant and lived alone in a bachelor suite? Guess I haven't attention to the Lounge in recent years. Never mind.
Anyway wouldn't it be interesting if the Feds did somehow motivate a nation-wide enforcement push, which four years from now leads to some 200'000 mostly working people to having criminal record, becoming welfare recipients by the end of Reforms' next mandate and this artificial drag on prosperity ends up being the thing that sinks them/
You will have to wait for c36 to come into force as today it is not illegal to pay for sex and so until now no Canadian court has ever had to consider what the money was for.I would like to see cases, not a single case, but cases where
1. the charged happened in CANADA
2. the person charged tried to say the money was for something else
3. what actual evidence was used to prove what the money was for
As always, fuji's free legal advice is worth exactly what you paid for it. Along with his medical advice, etc etcYou keep saying things like this. Can you show us some supporting facts? Find us some court cases where this happened.
I would like to see cases, not a single case, but cases where
1. the charged happened in CANADA
2. the person charged tried to say the money was for something else
3. what actual evidence was used to prove what the money was for
4. that the case was actually a trail where a jury decided
5. the ad or website and more importantly, the wording used in the ad that got him busted
I know it shouldn't take you long because you have been spouting off at the mouth about this shit for days. So I eagerly await your reply.
