Samsung Overtakes Apple as World's Biggest Smartphone Seller

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Samsung Overtakes Apple as World's Biggest Smartphone Seller

Samsung Electronics Co. overtook Apple Inc. in the last quarter to become the world's largest smartphone vendor amid a widening technology and legal battle between the two companies.

Samsung shipped 27.8 million smartphones in the last quarter, taking 23.8 percent of the market, Milton Keynes, U.K.- based Strategy Analytics said in an e-mailed statement today. Apple's 17.1 million shipments, comprising 14.6 percent of the market, pushed the Cupertino, California-based company to second place. Nokia Oyj maintained its third position, it said.

Apple, which released its iPhone 4S this month, held the top spot for only one quarter after dislodging Espoo, Finland- based Nokia earlier this year. Samsung, based in Suwon, South Korea, has turned to Google Inc.'s Android software to boost sales of its Galaxy smartphones and tablet computers.

For all those Apple fans that like to comment that Apple is a single company and that Android require several companies to outsell the iPhone.
you can now see why Apple is so desperate to stop Samsung from selling phones and tablets in many countries.
 

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ruhhh-oh. Poor Apple cult, gotta hurt their egos a bit, some O than T others B.
Hope they don't lose too much sleep over this.
 

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Behind the numbers: Samsung passes Apple in phones

NEW YORK (AP) — For the first time, Samsung Electronics Co. shipped more smartphones in the latest quarter than tech industry darling Apple Inc. On the surface, this may look like a big upset in a world that affords the iPhone maker adulation and outsized expectations. The real reason, however, has more to do with timing and Samsung's variety of offerings and prices.

Apple sold 17.1 million iPhones in the third quarter, 3 million fewer than expected. Samsung, meanwhile, shipped more than 27 million, according to analyst estimates.

So what happened? For one, Apple's latest iPhone, the 4S, didn't come out until the quarter ended, so its sales are not included in the figure. People held back on buying older models in anticipation of the new iPhone, which came out Oct. 14. Apple said it sold more than 4 million units in its first weekend on sale, and that should be reflected in the tally for the current, holiday quarter.

"People were waiting," said Francis Sideco, analyst with the research firm IHS. "We don't see this as a signal that Apple is all of a sudden losing its edge. It's their normal thing. But while they are doing this normal thing, Samsung is (going strong) and they happen to have a really good quarter."

Samsung's quarter was helped by strong sales of its Galaxy phones, though Sideco said the numbers shouldn't lead to the conclusion that the Samsung Galaxy beat the Apple iPhone.

"What beat it is Samsung's lines," Sideco said.

Besides the Galaxy line, Samsung's phones include Conquer, Replenish, Focus and Indulge. IHS estimates that Samsung sold about 40 different models during the third quarter. By comparison, Apple had just two — the 4 and the 3GS.

Samsung, which is based in Seoul, South Korea, does not disclose the number of phones it ships. IHS, formerly known as iSuppli, estimates that Samsung shipped 27.3 million smartphones in the latest quarter. Jae Lee from Daiwa Securities puts the figure at about 28 million.

Analysts cautioned against reading too much into the numbers, but such comparisons are tempting given the pedestal that Apple is held on and the fact that the rivalry between the two companies has heated up and extended into the courtroom. Apple says the product design, user interface and packaging of Samsung's Galaxy devices "slavishly copy" the iPhone and Apple's iPad tablet computer. Samsung fought back with lawsuits of its own, accusing Apple of patent infringement of its wireless telecommunications technology.

Even as Samsung sold more phones, Apple seems to be making more money on each. That's one of the reasons Apple is now the most valuable tech company in the world, with a market value about three times that of Samsung.

Apple competes on — and dominates — the high-end smartphone market. By contrast, Samsung has both cheap and expensive phones available. That means Samsung can appeal to a broader range of customers, but the company has to settle for a lower profit margin on lower-end smartphones.

Sideco called both strategies good. Good, but different.

Apple, which is based in Cupertino, Calif., limits the market it addresses because it is safeguarding its profit margin on the iPhone, said Gartner analyst Carolina Milanesi. More expensive phones mean higher margins for the company, which so far hasn't focused on the market for lower-end phones.

"It's part of their plan," Milanesi said. "If they wanted to capture a wider segment of the market, they would go with a lower-end device."

That could come soon. The price cut earlier this month for the iPhone 4 to $99 (down from $199) and the decision to offer now-ancient 3GS for free — with a two-year service contract — could mean that Apple is testing the waters in the cheaper market.

"The sales of the $99 iPhone 4 will definitely help widen the addressable market," Milanesi said.

When it comes to the overall mobile phone market, though neither Apple nor Samsung are on top. That honor goes to Nokia Corp. The Finnish company is still the world's No. 1 cellphone maker even though it has fallen behind rivals in the smartphone market. Nokia shipped 16.8 million smartphones during the third quarter, a close third to Apple, according to IHS.
 

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Aaaahhh, the joys of fuzzy math.....:rolleyes:
 

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I love hearing all the excuses from the Apple faithful. fact of the matter is 1 year ago Samsungs smartphone share was 3%, it's now almost 25%
Apple have had budget offerings during that 1 year period also with iPhone 3gs going from free to $50 depending on the carrier.
the fact that Samsung choose to support multiple smartphones covering a range of budgets sounds like a good business practice to me.
after all it's working so well, Apple are adopting it with new pricing on iPhones. 3GS free, iPhone 4 now $99 and 4S at $199

Apples spin doctoring is incredible, and I know others do it as well but none on the scale of the Apple marketing machine.


Apple sold 17.1 million iPhones in the third quarter, 3 million fewer than expected. Samsung, meanwhile, shipped more than 27 million, according to analyst estimates.
27 million "smartphones" to 17 million! now get over it lol
 

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I love hearing all the excuses from the Apple faithful. fact of the matter is 1 year ago Samsungs smartphone share was 3%, it's now almost 25%
Apple have had budget offerings during that 1 year period also with iPhone 3gs going from free to $50 depending on the carrier.
the fact that Samsung choose to support multiple smartphones covering a range of budgets sounds like a good business practice to me.
after all it's working so well, Apple are adopting it with new pricing on iPhones. 3GS free, iPhone 4 now $99 and 4S at $199

Apples spin doctoring is incredible, and I know others do it as well but none on the scale of the Apple marketing machine.


27 million "smartphones" to 17 million! now get over it lol
The "spin" is called iSpinning, there's an App for that.
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ispinning/id355833185?mt=8 :D zing!
 

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Samsung, which is based in Seoul, South Korea, does not disclose the number of phones it ships. IHS, formerly known as iSuppli, estimates that Samsung shipped 27.3 million smartphones in the latest quarter. Jae Lee from Daiwa Securities puts the figure at about 28 million.
Ummmm, funny ... these are predictions by analysts.

Has Samsung confirmed or released actual numbers?
('cause Samsung doesn't release sales figures)
Samsung could ship 100 million phones, but that doesn’t tell us how many they actually sold?
 

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I love hearing all the excuses from the Apple faithful. fact of the matter is 1 year ago Samsungs smartphone share was 3%, it's now almost 25%
Apple have had budget offerings during that 1 year period also with iPhone 3gs going from free to $50 depending on the carrier.
the fact that Samsung choose to support multiple smartphones covering a range of budgets sounds like a good business practice to me.
after all it's working so well, Apple are adopting it with new pricing on iPhones. 3GS free, iPhone 4 now $99 and 4S at $199

Apples spin doctoring is incredible, and I know others do it as well but none on the scale of the Apple marketing machine.




27 million "smartphones" to 17 million! now get over it lol
Clearly the firms are following different strategies... a single quarters results are interesting but the trend is what's important. I did think it was interesting that Samsung sold 40 different models to sell 27 million phones - clearly a strategy.

Will be interesting to see what happens when Google closes it's Moto deal.... I think the only real risk to Android on the phone is Oracle at the moment, Android has caused the smartphone market to explode into a mass market device. Well done. It's a two horse race, Apple across 3 platforms with iOS and Android owning the smartphone market... RIM and Nokia are paying the marketshare price.

OTB
 

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Clearly the firms are following different strategies... a single quarters results are interesting but the trend is what's important. I did think it was interesting that Samsung sold 40 different models to sell 27 million phones - clearly a strategy.
Samsung has not released any sales figures (especially the amount of 27 million). Nor, as a policy do they release sales figures.

The figures are estimated by analysts. In other words, it's BS.
 

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Clearly the firms are following different strategies... a single quarters results are interesting but the trend is what's important. I did think it was interesting that Samsung sold 40 different models to sell 27 million phones - clearly a strategy.



OTB

There aren't actually 40 models. each carrier has it's own signature model ie. Samsung Galaxy S 2 where there are many variants of the same phone with different names.
btw The Galaxy S class phones alone have surpassed 30 million, with Nexus Prime with ICS very soon.
 

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There aren't actually 40 models. each carrier has it's own signature model ie. Samsung Galaxy S 2 where there are many variants of the same phone with different names.
btw The Galaxy S class phones alone have surpassed 30 million, with Nexus Prime with ICS very soon.

Don't give him facts, he'll just get upset and confused. Ruining OTB's Sunday, shame on you.
 

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bottie is probably scanning the Internets Al Gore inverted, looking for some fuzzy numbers to bolster his Apple claims.....:D
 

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Better for everyone. :)
 
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