Alex Rios Drops F-Bomb on Fan

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check the sports forum, been there for a few days now. He was coming out of a Charity event
 

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I was watching the Phillies vs Dodgers over the weekend. 10th inning, 2 men on and the batter gets called out on strikes for the 3rd out. Not sure watch the batter said, but you could hear the Umpire say "are you fucking kidding me?" NBC apologized for the F bomb.
 
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Alex must be trying hard to get traded........a 5 or 6 year old RIOS fan beside me got his attention on Sunday.....and he looked right at him and instead of winking, nodding or waving at him..........he spit towards him.....real classy guy!!
 

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I can't blame they guy. If some guy on the street came up to me and called me a bum I'd tell him to F Off too! Yes I know he's a professional and should be able to take it blah blah blah... The guy plays baseball and gets paid a lot of money and because of that people are allowed to act like classless jerks and he's not allowed to react to that?
 

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mmmburritos said:
I can't blame they guy. If some guy on the street came up to me and called me a bum I'd tell him to F Off too! Yes I know he's a professional and should be able to take it blah blah blah... The guy plays baseball and gets paid a lot of money and because of that people are allowed to act like classless jerks and he's not allowed to react to that?
It looks bad on the team though

Also he refused to sign autographs for some kids on his way out, that makes it look extra bad
 

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I think hockey players have to be the better bunch of all athletes and I don't even like hockey (prefer basketball).
But basketball players act like their shit doesn't stink, football players are almost the same, baseball Alomar comes to mind, A.Rod, now this douchebag.
 

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While his actions were wrong, I don't believe Alex Rios is an inherently bad person - I simply think he has no idea the power/influence/importance that he has in the eyes of some, particularly the young.

I do feel sorry for those of you who seemingly hate athletes (in this thread and in the Sports forum), seemingly just because they're well-paid professional athletes. He's human. He's young. He may have grown up differently than the judgmental TERB moralists. (note sarcasm) He screws up, particularly after a bad day (five strikeouts in five at-bats is as bad as it gets in baseball.)

Sometimes it takes a mistake for someone to truly learn a lesson in life.

The minute any of you can prove that you're perfect, and have never blown off, or blown up at, someone, please let me know and I'll edit my post.

In the meantime, here's a story that Alex Rios and all athletes, celebrities, etc., should read: http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=3930642

Hey, pro, don't want to be a role model? It's not your choice.

by Rick Reilly

This is a story I want to tell ALL athletes who think that what they do, how they act, the little kindnesses they give or withhold from fans don't matter.

It'll take only a minute.

My wife, Cynthia, is adopted. At 36, she found half her biological family on the Blackfeet Indian Reservation in Montana. Turns out she had four half brothers, one named Lil Bob, who was as big as a tree.

Lil Bob, a bar owner, could pick a man up with one hand and throw him out the front door. He was gregarious and funny and always seemed to have his son, Jake, hanging onto one of his huge legs. Unfortunately, he was also a full-blown alcoholic. Many were the days that started and ended with a quart of Jack Daniel's, although you could never tell.

In size and in heart, Lil Bob was one of Montana's biggest Broncos fans. His hero was John Elway. He joked that he wanted to be buried in an Elway jersey, with pallbearers in Elway jerseys, and an Elway football in his huge hand. His one regret was dropping out of school in eighth grade, ending his football career. His one dream was to take Jake to a Broncos game. Sometimes on the reservation, the dreams come small.

Last March, Lil Bob's liver failed. One awful hospital day, Jake, now 13, walked up to the bed, took his dad's head in his hands, put his mouth on his forehead and told him he couldn't go yet. Told him he needed him to stay and take him to a Broncos game. Stay and watch him grow up and play for the Broncos.

Lil Bob's death, a few days later, seemed to send Jake into that shapeless, black sinkhole where boys go when their best friend is gone for reasons they can't understand. "I tried to talk to him, but he was closed to it," says Jake's mom, Lona Burns. "He started doing bad in school. Kids picked on him. Every day I fought him just to go. His grades dropped. He didn't even care about going to football practice, didn't want to play."


Worse yet, since the day Lil Bob died, Jake hadn't cried.

And then, this past October, one of Lil Bob's best friends—a restaurant owner named Christopher Hamlet—decided to make good on an unfulfilled dream: He bought two plane tickets, packed up Jake and flew to Denver. Jake was finally going to a Broncos game.

As locals, Cynthia and I took them to lunch at one of Elway's restaurants so Jake could see all the jerseys and photos. The kid was so excited he hardly ate. And that was before a certain Hall of Fame QB walked in, all keg-chested and pigeon-toed. Immediately, Jake turned into an ice sculpture.

We introduced them, and it took a few seconds before Jake could even stick out his hand. Apparently, 13-year-olds are not used to meeting gods.

Elway took the time to sign Jake's football and pose for a picture. He even made us all go outside, where the light was better. Then, as we said good-bye—Jake's feet floating a foot off the ground—Elway turned and said, out of nowhere, "Hey, why don't you guys come by the box today?"

And the next thing Jake knew, he was in John Elway's box, asking him any question he wanted, all with a grin that threatened to split his happy head in half.

Then Elway said, "Comin' to dinner?"

And suddenly Jake was having his lettuce wedge cut for him by the legend, who tousled the kid's cowlick. Like a dad might.

Halfway through the night, a guy came out of the bathroom and said, "Are you guys with that kid? Because he's in there talking to his mom on the phone, crying. Is he okay?"

Yes, Jake would be okay.

"Jake came back a changed boy," his mom says. He started climbing out of that hole. He started making A's again. Started loving football again. He told his mom, "When I make it to the NFL, I'm going to buy you a big house in Denver so you can come to my games."

And I ask myself: Why did Elway do all that? Maybe because his late father, Jack, was his best friend too? Maybe because his own son, Jack, went away to college last fall? Or maybe because that's how he is. In my 26 years of knowing him, I've never seen him turn down an autograph request, a picture request, a Can-I-just-tell-you-something? request.

A lot of athletes don't want the burden that comes with being a role model. But what I want to tell them is: You don't get to choose. You don't get to tell 13-year-old boys with holes in their hearts who can help them heal.

I know it's a hassle, but it matters. Because you never know when you might just lead a kid out to where the light is better.
 

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I have to totally disagree with you Captain:) . AR should never have sworn at those hecklers. IMHO all these pro athletes are trained in how to handle the media and their fans. I guess AR was absent for that particular class---lol.

IMHO Rios was totally out of line. It wouldn't have killed him to spend literally two seconds and give the kid his autograph. As usual just my opinion!
 

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Sigh. Did you even read my post? Or do you just default to disagreeing with me without even reading what I write?

I didn't say what Rios did was right - quite the contrary, and I even used Rick Reilly's article to show how someone should handle a situation like that - I stated that everyone excoriating him should take a good, long look at themselves before playing the "spoiled, asshole-athlete" card.

As an aside: squash, I would suggest that present some evidence to back up your claims of how athletes are "trained in how to handle the media and their fans" in real-world, real-life situations. Otherwise your opinion is as worthless as Alex Rios' apology. IMHO. ;)

(I happen to know what "training" some athletes receive, and it is quite limited, to say the least.)
 

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At some point soon, the Jays will just have to bite the money bullet and get rid of RIOS (and WELLS). Their lack of production is well known and now this incident. If you are a baseball player and both the fans and the media turn against you (for good reason), you are finished in this or any other town.

BTW: RIOS was never close to a Tier 1 player and WELLS might have been an "almost" Tier 1 player earlier in his career. To be Tier 1 you have to have led the league in hitting, home runs and/or RBI's at least once in your career.
 

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Captain Fantastic said:
I would suggest that present some evidence to back up your claims of how athletes are "trained in how to handle the media and their fans" in real-world, real-life situations.
The NBA, and im fairly certain all professional sports do now, sit down the top draft picks and give them a 1 or 2 day course on how to deal with the media, how to act in public etc, etc. Whether they actually pay attention is another story all together. I really could care less about these athletes now anyways, as their salaries have gotten so out of hand, i have stopped going to any games. I used to go to a couple Jays and a few Raptors games a year, now, i wouldn't pay a dime to see any of them. If i get a free ticket fine, but i wouldn't pay money out of my own pocket to see them.

I know the majority of players don't act like this, but each year more and more players do. If they all disappeared, my life wouldn't be any the worse off. This definitely won't be the last player to act like a tool in public.
 

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Primetime21 said:
The NBA, and im fairly certain all professional sports do now, sit down the top draft picks and give them a 1 or 2 day course on how to deal with the media, how to act in public etc, etc. Whether they actually pay attention is another story all together.
I'm well aware that the NBA and NFL holds mandatory sessions - they run the gambit of financial planning, how to deal with "friends" and family, drugs/alcohol, women, security, media, fans, extortion, etc. However, I also know that those sessions are rudimentary at best and are considered a joke by most. Think of the sex education they taught in school - pointless and out of touch, with little real-world relevance.

MLB and the NHL does not do the same, so it's up to the individual teams and athletes (or their agents) to undertake that sort of training.

I don't believe that more and more players act badly these days, it's just that media reports it differently than before (when they were cosy with the teams and athletes - think of how Tiger Woods is fawned over today for an example) and that there are many forms of non-traditional media (youtube, blogs, etc.) that allow for more invasive, almost 24/7 coverage. These dudes live "The Truman Show" for most of their professional careers - and beyond.
 

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Rockslinger said:
At some point soon, the Jays will just have to bite the money bullet and get rid of RIOS (and WELLS). Their lack of production is well known and now this incident. If you are a baseball player and both the fans and the media turn against you (for good reason), you are finished in this or any other town.

BTW: RIOS was never close to a Tier 1 player and WELLS might have been an "almost" Tier 1 player earlier in his career. To be Tier 1 you have to have led the league in hitting, home runs and/or RBI's at least once in your career.
Tier 1, Tier 3, Tier 10,000. Who cares? Rios is a 2-time All-Star and he is paid what the Jays thought he was worth. If they try and trade him now, they'll get nothing and have no one in their system to replace him. They had a chance last year with the Giants and either Lincecum (highly improbable) or Cain (more likely) and they didn't pull the trigger.

If they trade Vernon Wells, they'll either have to include a top prospect(s) or pay a large part of his salary - either way they're screwed, as they don't have Evil Empire (NYY, NYM, BoSox, ChiCubs) money to cover up for their mistakes. Again, who replaces him on the field and as a face of the franchise?

Is your strategy buy high, sell low? That's a recipe for an "economic downturn" if I've ever heard one.

The legacy of J.P. continues...
 

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Captain Fantastic said:
Sigh. Did you even read my post? Or do you just default to disagreeing with me without even reading what I write?

I didn't say what Rios did was right - quite the contrary, and I even used Rick Reilly's article to show how someone should handle a situation like that - I stated that everyone excoriating him should take a good, long look at themselves before playing the "spoiled, asshole-athlete" card.

As an aside: squash, I would suggest that present some evidence to back up your claims of how athletes are "trained in how to handle the media and their fans" in real-world, real-life situations. Otherwise your opinion is as worthless as Alex Rios' apology. IMHO.

(I happen to know what "training" some athletes receive, and it is quite limited, to say the least.)
Captain you're obviously a smarter guy then I am so I don't go out of my way to intentionally disagree with you:) .

Here is my evidence. I am a big sports fan. I usually listen to Landry and Stellick in the morning on the Fan 590. They interview all sorts of sports personalities ranging from Cito Gaston to Jay Triano etc.

Everybody they interview is always very polished and even has a bit of a sense of humor. I find Cito Gaston as an example to be very well spoken. I'm sure he wasn't always like that?

Changing tangents a bit. IMHO one of the major reasons Sam Mitchell was fired was because he was so awful with the toronto media. Landry and Stellick kept cutting him up and calling him Smitch. Sam Mitchell started yelling at Landry and Stellick on the air because he didn't like his nickname.

Sam Mitchell acted like a jerk to the toronto media and that was one of the reasons he was fired. Some former Blue Jays such as Rance Mulliniks, Jesse Barfield, Pat Tabler etc obviously had proper media training as they are now baseball announcers for the jays ball club.

IMHO what Rios did was inexcusable. If it was just a tiny faux pas then that would be one thing but to tell a 6 year old kid to f*** off is beyond belief.

The only reason that Rios is still with the ballclub is because of his outrageously high contract.

Captain we can't compare ourselves to professional athletes. It is IMHO a totally unrealistic analogy!
 

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Apparently Rios took 5 swings at the guy, but he missed on all of them. :D
 

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I am by no means a Rios fan, however, did he make a mistake....yes...did he own up to it.....yes. Everyone makes mistakes in life and hopefully they learn from it.

Now if it happens again..then he is an idiot.
 
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