Gawker Claims Video Exists of Rob Ford Smoking Crack

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On the other hand, unlike in a court, in an election, the burden of proof lies with the candidate to prove that they deserve the vote. This is why politicians wind up being forced to reveal their tax returns and such.

Or, you know.. explain what they were doing at a crack house smoking on a glass pipe.
Difference being, taxes are real and are a matter of public record, ergo there is proof.

There has yet to be any proof of him smoking crack at a crack house.
 

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Circumstantial? Absolutely.

Suspicious? Absolutely.

He needs to clear the air.

A drug test would be very real.
 

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You mean other than a video witnessed by three reporters.
One of those reporters didn't know what residents of Toronto were called

The other two would only go as far to say "appeared to be" and would not categorically state it was him, people are all over Ford for not being specific enough in his denials, but ambiguity is ok for the so called witnesses.
 

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Difference being, taxes are real and are a matter of public record, ergo there is proof.

There has yet to be any proof of him smoking crack at a crack house.
You don't seem to have understood Fuji's post. I've copied it here below.

On the other hand, unlike in a court, in an election, the burden of proof lies with the candidate to prove that they deserve the vote. This is why politicians wind up being forced to reveal their tax returns and such.

Or, you know.. explain what they were doing at a crack house smoking on a glass pipe.
The issue is not whether or not "there is evidence that taxes are real". The issue is that things that disclosure of a politician's income taxes is an example of the different standard in a court of public appeal vs a legal court. In the latter, evidence of wrongdoing would be required before one might be required to disclose one's income taxes.

Those who continue to say "this would not meet the burden of proof in a court of law" seem to be willfully missing the point.

The point is the volume of circumstantial and testimonial evidence on this matter (and other's), and the man's fitness to complete the responsibilities of his elected office.

As a final note, I am a fiscal conservative, a social liberal, and a lifetime resident of downtown Toronto.
 

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And other than his staff saying they knew where the video was.
That could have been gleened from the original Gawker article, which revealed which neighbourhood it was in, and the Star article made it even easier to figure it out.
 

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One of those reporters didn't know what residents of Toronto were called

The other two would only go as far to say "appeared to be" and would not categorically state it was him, people are all over Ford for not being specific enough in his denials, but ambiguity is ok for the so called witnesses.
Ok. So we can agree that there is indeed a video that appeared to be Ford smoking crack. Put that in the context of his drug ridden family upbringing and yeah there are questions here that only a drug test will answer.
 

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Once again that comes from a "source" , who is of course unamed.

If it were legally plausible, I'd love for Ford to have a drug test, hell make it a requirement for every elected official at every level.
 

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Once again that comes from a "source" , who is of course unamed.

If it were legally plausible, I'd love for Ford to have a drug test, hell make it a requirement for every elected official at every level.
Other elected officials don't have the mountain of circumstantial evidence against them, like a video that appears to show them smoking crack.

There is indeed a good reason to ask Ford to clear this up.
 

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Here's what I dont understand, why has Gawker in the past shown such great interest in stories aboot Rob Ford?? Gawker is a US based gossip site, it makes no sense for them to run stories on a Canadian mayor.

There is something fishy going on here.

Below are some of their news articles over the past 2 years. And remember, all these stories were published well before the crack story came out:


March 31, 2011: http://gawker.com/5787782/mayors-office-tries-to-hide-all-naked-portraits-of-toronto-mayor

August 30, 2012: http://gawker.com/5939347/toronto-m...-sexual-assaults-by-not-dressing-like-a-whore

January 25, 2013: http://gawker.com/5978975/the-best-...-mayor-rob-ford-an-introduction-for-americans
 

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Here's what I dont understand, why has Gawker in the past shown such great interest in stories aboot Rob Ford?? Gawker is a US based gossip site, it makes no sense for them to run stories on a Canadian mayor.
'cause they have experience with conservative-dunce-cap politicians...
 

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It is no secret that the chief editor at gawker is a raving liberal and cannot stand Rob Ford. another failed orchestrated attempt by the left to dethrone our duly elected Mayor. Absolutely no respect for democracy, for journalistic standards or privacy - parasites the lot of them.

Go Ford!
 

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It is no secret that the chief editor at gawker is a raving liberal and cannot stand Rob Ford. another failed orchestrated attempt by the left to dethrone our duly elected Mayor. Absolutely no respect for democracy, for journalistic standards or privacy - parasites the lot of them.

Go Ford!
 
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