As to LeBron James, I bet he wishes he had kept his mouth shut.
He made himself look like a complete ass by shilling for an authoritarian regime.
He made himself look like a complete ass by shilling for an authoritarian regime.
Rockets GM Daryl Morey tries to defuse tenuous spot with China after Hong Kong tweet
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I'm not distraught that Sterling had to sell his team, my point is if they say they are so much for social justice and then back down when it can cost them money is hypocritical. I guess you back the Chinese and their stance because you don't seem to have an issue with it.
They raise a stink because they can and the US will bow down.
Already Google and Apple and all US citizens are no longer allowed to use vpn's in China.
They've mastered the police state.
Were the Hong Kong people kneeling with Kaepernick? Any other minorities elsewhere?
Let jcpro help you answer, if he ever wants to return.
Everyone, who is being oppressed, is busy trying to save their own skin...literally and figuratively.
You miss the point. They say they care about social justice and make statements all the time, Steve Kerr, Popovich and Lebron have no problem letting their views known except now when it affects the NBA financially. They are hypocrites. What does Hong Kong have to do with Kap?
Well, that is not really the case.
This affects them personally. Many NBA players have sponsorships inside China that rake in the money for them. So what Morley said affects them personally.
It has been said that China generates $4 billion USD in revenue towards the NBA and their players per year. Not all of that $4 billion goes to the league, do not know how much of that goes straight to the star players.
Morley should be fired on the spot for being such an idiot. Hong Kong is none of his business. The NBA is his meal ticket. How many billions will be pissed away in the coming years because of him?
Total idiot.
You just made my point, when it affects their wallet, social justice goes out the window, hypocrites.They only care about themselves, when it comes to social issues they only speak when it doesn't affect their wallet.
China apologists always seem to hold up "it's bad for business". That's fine if that's how you feel. It's not an ethical argument, but rather a practical accommodation.
We just don't want NBA players, tech companies, etc. lecturing us on social justice here while they accommodate the Chinese in order to make more millions/billions.
We just don't want NBA players, tech companies, etc. lecturing us on social justice here while they accommodate the Chinese in order to make more millions/billions.
This is what I do not like.
1. No one has the right to volunteer the canola farmer in this country to take one for the team!
2. What does the rule book say? Is it bad to trade with China? Should have told that to the canola farmer. But back then, the rule book said it was good? Who the hell changes the rules here? Same people who volunteer the canola farmer to take one for the team.
The NBA dispute in the states, mirrors the canola dispute here.
3. President Trump has once again suggested that Hauwei could be part of the trade negations. Trump said specifically it is not part of phase 1 of the trade deal, but could part of phase 2 of the trade deal. Apparently according to Canadian law, no one can be extradited for political reasons, but here is the US president suggesting that very thing. It's kind of funny.
This is the part I really do not like.
No politician is doing anything for the canola farmer or the two Canadians in a Chinese jail.
Why?
The only answer is I think the politicians are too busy looking after their own interests and self-preservation in the political sphere, their re-election or election chances. They cannot be bothered with the interests of the common people. The politicians will not put the people's interests in our country ahead of their own political interests.
When you are a NBA player or a canola farmer, and you watch these politicians grandstand and do nothing, yet they claim the moral high ground and everyone else is expected to follow along and get screwed over at the same time.
If you are a NBA player or a canola farmer ... you want the damn money.
WTH does the billions that the NBA makes for playing a game have to do with canola farmers? You're so lost in your bullshit trying to find a way to support China that you seem to forget that the hypocritical NBA virtue signaling has absolutely nothing to do with the trade conflict.
The criticism of the NBA has everything to do with the people of Hong Kong.
No country should even contemplate allowing China to supply 5G hardware given their proclivity to resort to blackmail when they get pissed off.
You are seriously misinformed.
I think the world is just too complicated for you.
Who is president of the USA? Some anti-China guy, who has extensive business dealings inside China.
Who will likely be the next president of the USA? Some anti-China guy, who's family has extensive business dealings inside China.
Look at what Pence said today about China in his speech. Essentially it was China is bad and that it is imperative that the USA engages with China. That sounds contradictory but that is the reality of it. A reality that you cannot seem to accept or understand.
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5 Takeaways From Mike Pence’s Hawkish China Speech
October 24, 2019, 5:15 PM
https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/10/24/mike-pence-hawkish-china-speech-hong-kong/
Hauwei 5G will be everywhere in this world. That ship has sailed already. You can count on one hand how many countries will ban it from their 5G networks.
The reason why Hauwei base stations and antenna will dominate 5G worldwide is simple. Hauwei has superior tech. The closest competitor to Hauwei tech in 5G is at least 2 years behind. If they actually even catch up, will it be as good? At this stage of the game, very doubtful.
The fight between Huawei and the US government is over. Huawei has won big.
Here's some evidence. Look on the internet and you'll find. more.
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Just let us have Huawei and get on with 5G, UK mobe networks tell MPs
By Gareth Corfield 10 Oct 2019 at 14:15
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/10/10/5g_security_review_parliament_submissions/
I can see the parallel between these NBA players etc to
climate activists lecturing us on the urgency of the need to
deal with impending ecological crisis. We have an eminent
activist who bought water-front property while warning us
on rising water level. We have a leader who has committed
the nation to zero emission. And yet this leader would build a
new pipeline to buy votes and travelled on private jets for
family vacation.
We should accept that this is always the way the
world has been. The peasants had to do what their land
owners and the royalties told them to not following what
they did. The peasants in the modern world that is us
common folks would have to look to the elites for
inspiration and leadership for betterment of the world.
China just implemented a policy where the require a facial scan before you can buy a cellphone.
It is you who missed the point, but that's fine. I don't remember LeBron and plenty others kneeling. I'm sure if this were the case then jcpro would have come back to this thread to defend his position.
No one here has said that the NBA (or Nike for that matter) shouldn't be able to do business in China. We sharply pointed out that LeBron and others in the league have made bold statements about human rights in our country, but go out of their to criticize the Houston GM. Do your business and make your money, but shut up (LeBron) about China.
The canola farmer is just trying to make a buck and survive. The farmer's are not taking a stance on Hong Kong, the Uighurs, etc.
PS- On your point about Trump's China dealings, he doesn't have any properties in China. His daughter shutdown her clothing line.
We should just rip off Hauwei’s technology. Let the Chinese be on the receiving end of the intellectual property theft game for once.
Point taken about the Lebron statements the push back in the USA.
That is not really what I am interested in because that is US race relations. That is a very emotive subject.
