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What Is The Great Reset And Why Are People Blaming Justin Trudeau?

oil&gas

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"Great Reset" is just a money grab. I don't believe
there is a conspiracy behind. Our leaders will not have
the means to pay off all the debts raised to fight the
pandemic any time soon.They have to find some excuse to
continue deficit spending after the pandemic ends.
 

JohnLarue

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Wait.
You think that any attempt to discuss any political priorities or international coordination is automatically socialism and evil?

That's impressively dumb.
When you seek to determine the priorities of societies the nature of business models and determine the management of a global commons., then yes it is socialism & it is evil
How
impressively dumb to try and exclude / ignore those objectives.

The nature of business models has long been determined and long been successful and it is to make a profit by supplying goods and / or services which are in demand

So what would the "Great Reset" change about the nature of business models ? The "to make a profit" part or 'the allocation of goods and services" part?
Likely both


For instance, if I proposed that we should coordinate in order to restore the pre-eminence of Western Civilization - a Europe that is united and acts as a peaceful bulwark against religious fundamentalism, communism, and radical Islam by promoting European Enlightenment Values and a strong system of Capitalism and Free Trade, do you know how I could describe that?

It would be a plan for determining the future state of global relations, the direction of national economies, the priorities of societies, the nature of business models and the management of a global commons.
No, I do not think so

#1 Your statement is Europe focused , not global - so no global commons and no orders for the puppet Justin Trudeau to implement
#2 You specified Capitalism and Free Trade which are already in place in Europe - so no economic radical change without a mandate
#3 You injected religion into the mix with specific objectives. The very best way to screw up a plan is to try manage an economy or a business subject to religious constraints, or equality constrainsts
#4 Politics and religion do not mix well, economic objectives and religion are even worse.
#5 An Economic Form does not have the authority to determine political or religious policy.


My guess is you pulled that quote from a speech by a right wing leader like Viktor Orbán and then tried to stuff it into the word salad from the World Economic Forum and failed miserably

Now that's impressively dumb.
 
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JohnLarue

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"Great Reset" is just a money grab. I don't believe
there is a conspiracy behind. Our leaders will not have
the means to pay off all the debts raised to fight the
pandemic any time soon.They have to find some excuse to
continue deficit spending after the pandemic ends.

They will do whatever they can to increase taxation and inflation in order to deal with the massive government debt accumulated before and during the pandemic.
(The budget will balance itself.... bloody moron)

They will tax fossil fuel based energy until you can not afford to use it. Which will be incredibly inflationary as ever thing you own or eat is brought to you via energy.
The real scary part is they will do this before an economically equivalent alternative energy source is developed . Green renewables are <5-10% of the world energy source, do not provide baseline dependable power & not the answer
They also lose all credibility when they reject nuclear in addition to rejecting all fossil fuels
This is over and above the lost credibility for using pseudo science to try and "Fight Climate Change", but that is an entirely different yet equally disturbing discussion
The assault on fossil fuels will hurt the poor disproportionately. The proposed solution to that self inflicted problem will be wealth transfer


Capital gains will also be subject to taxation. (Cap gains on primary residence was a discussion paper for Justin's liberals)
Wealth taxes will follow ( And this is just plain evil & theft ). It is a Huge problem when property rights are trampled on
And property taxes will also be in the cross hairs as municipalities (provinces too ) are also levered up real good.

Your kids and grandkids (and their kids) are going to get run over
 
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JohnLarue

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This is why JohnLarue assumes everyone without a 500-page white paper is actually trying to take over the world.
Really?
how many organizations have these objectives ?
determining the future state of global relations, the direction of national economies, the priorities of societies, the nature of business models and the management of a global commons.

If these are harmless inconsequential objectives, then there is no need to promote the "Great Reset"
Odd how it is being heavily promoted


Explain the specifics of what determining the direction of national economies,means?
Explain the specifics of what determining the management of a global commons means?
Explain the specifics of what determining the priorities of societies,means?

The UN is already dictating our immigration policy to Justin

But according to you there is no way the Great Reset will not have any impact on our sovereignty, our economy, our society, personal freedoms or our standard of living???

Why is it called the "Great Reset" if it will not involve change

Wrong., so very wrong
 
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JohnLarue

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1) You should stop pushing these dumb-assed conspiracy theory.
You should stop telling me what to do and instead provide intelligent well thought out counter arguments or....... get lost or put me on ignore
Decide one way or another, but put an end to trying to telling me what to do !!!

Conspiracy?
It is a direct quote from the World Economic Forum website



2) Ignoring your tinfoil ramblings, as PM and holding a majority in parliament in fact does have the authority to enact laws as long as they are in line with the Charter.

# 1 He does not hold a majority, he has a minority, he lost the popular vote and he has no representation in Western Canada
#2 he threatened a to make his throne speech a confidence vote and then had to back off of this "Great Reset"/ Green bullshit he was going to include it the speech
No way he has the confidence of the people of Canada to implement a "Great Reset"

#3 What parts of sovereignty, our economy, our society, personal freedoms are covered in the Charter, what parts are not covered?
I will bet Gerald Butts already has this mapped out

#4 He just shot down an NDP proposed legislation
How many times will they continue to support him if he keeps doing that?

No way he has the confidence of the people of Canada to implement a "Great Reset"

This moran can not manage a state visit to India without it turning into a clown show
The only thing he is capable of doing is spending other people's money and he somehow managed to turn that into a shitshow (WE Charity)
Not a snowballs chance in hell his "Great Reset" will be a net benefit to Canadians
 
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JohnLarue

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Only a paranoid conspiracy freak could interpret a little international co-operation as a bad thing.
Only a deceitful left wing lunatic would isolate one component of
determining the future state of global relations, the direction of national economies, the priorities of societies, the nature of business models and the management of a global commons.

if it were only about a little international co-operation, there would be no problem

again it begs the question
We are dealing with the biggest crisis since WWII and have been asked to expend any and all resources to address the pandemic
Why the urgency to divert resources to the "Great Reset" ?

Fix the pandemic and then ask the electorate if they wish to be governed under the management of a global commons, ask the electorate if they want european bureaucrats to determine the direction of our economy, the priorities of our society and the nature of our business models
 
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Frankfooter

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again it begs the question
We are dealing with the biggest crisis since WWII and have been asked to expend any and all resources to address the pandemic
Right, so its the biggest crisis since WWII but larue is complaining the response is big as well.
That's hilarious.
 

oil&gas

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Right, so its the biggest crisis since WWII but larue is complaining the response is big as well.
That's hilarious.
What big response you are talking about? I can see all
the lock down and vaccine developments to be responses
to the pandemic crisis. The reset seems more like an ostensible
response to climate change using the pandemic as an excuse.
 

Frankfooter

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What big response you are talking about? I can see all
the lock down and vaccine developments to be responses
to the pandemic crisis. The reset seems more like an ostensible
response to climate change using the pandemic as an excuse.
Why not reset what drives the economy in a year that also turned the skies of North America orange?
Clearly that needs changing and what better way to jump start them?
 

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#1 Your statement is Europe focused , not global - so no global commons and no orders for the puppet Justin Trudeau to implement
#2 You specified Capitalism and Free Trade which are already in place in Europe - so no economic radical change without a mandate
#3 You injected religion into the mix with specific objectives. The very best way to screw up a plan is to try manage an economy or a business subject to religious constraints, or equality constrainsts
#4 Politics and religion do not mix well, economic objectives and religion are even worse.
#5 An Economic Form does not have the authority to determine political or religious policy.


My guess is you pulled that quote from a speech by a right wing leader like Viktor Orbán and then tried to stuff it into the word salad from the World Economic Forum and failed miserably
I am trying to get you to understand that the rhetoric is value free on its face.
Anyone attempting any change could use those same words.
It is just your fear that makes you assume those words mean socialism.
 
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JohnLarue

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What big response you are talking about? I can see all
the lock down and vaccine developments to be responses
to the pandemic crisis. The reset seems more like an ostensible
response to climate change using the pandemic as an excuse.
Like I said
We are being told the pandemic is the biggest crisis since WWII and we are being told any and all resources need be applied to fix it
And now Justin wants to divert resources to the "Great Reset" ?????

Why divert resources, before the pandemic is crisis is fixed?
This pandemic could get worse
How in the world is an unresolved crisis with an undefined end point an opportunity??

Why he wont just come right and say it "We need to go balls out socialism in order to respond to Climate change and social injustices"?
Instead he wants to present this in a different wrapper the "Great Reset"
It is impossible for Justin Trudeau to be honest with Canadians
 
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JohnLarue

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I am trying to get you to understand that the rhetoric is value free on its face.
Rhetoric when telling the country we need a "Great Reset" ? during a crisis?
Rhetoric in the middle of a pandemic ?

How is "This is an opportunity" Rhetoric ?


Anyone attempting any change could use those same words.
Too bad it was the prime minister in a speech to Canadians who said we need a "Great Reset"
Sadly his is not just anyone

It is just your fear that makes you assume those words mean socialism.
Actually no, it is more the sources , the UN & Justin, Gerald Butts and his policies thus far along with " determining the nature of business models" and "global commons' which are pointing the direction
 

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It appears that with the Great Reset and the incoming Biden administration, climate change hysteria will reach a new high, to what end I don't know. This vid will allow people to keep climate hysteria in perspective.

 

Frankfooter

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Like I said
We are being told the pandemic is the biggest crisis since WWII and we are being told any and all resources need be applied to fix it
And now Justin wants to divert resources to the "Great Reset" ?????

Why divert resources, before the pandemic is crisis is fixed?
This pandemic could get worse
How in the world is an unresolved crisis with an undefined end point an opportunity??

Why he wont just come right and say it "We need to go balls out socialism in order to respond to Climate change and social injustices"?
Instead he wants to present this in a different wrapper the "Great Reset"
It is impossible for Justin Trudeau to be honest with Canadians
So you want nothing done?
 

oil&gas

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Biden is no fool. Like other world's political
leaders who have jumped on the climate change
bandwagon he is set to take advantage of voters'
concern about climate change. I believe Biden's
environmental policies will be sensible and
measured. He may for instance return
to the Paris agreement on carbon emission. But that
doesn't mean he actually will follow it through.
If Biden is taken over by Harris things would get interesting.
Harris will make a climate change leader out of AOC.
I can't wait to see how Greta's school strike for climate
devolve into riots over emission reduction in the U.S.
 

Frankfooter

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Biden is no fool. Like other world's political
leaders who have jumped on the climate change
bandwagon he is set to take advantage of voters'
concern about climate change. I believe Biden's
environmental policies will be sensible and
measured. He may for instance return
to the Paris agreement on carbon emission. But that
doesn't mean he actually will follow it through.
If Biden is taken over by Harris things would get interesting.
Harris will make a climate change leader out of AOC.
I can't wait to see how Greta's school strike for climate
devolve into riots over emission reduction in the U.S.
John Kerry likely won't get much done, true.
He'll be way more forward than Trump, but will stall the US's actions.
Still two steps forward from mr coal.
 

bver_hunter

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Why are the right wingers painting certain traits of "Socialism" like they are evil??



Maybe the Great Harry Truman was a "Marxist" then!!
 
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You should stop telling me what to do and instead provide intelligent well thought out counter arguments or...
Funny to see a guy pushing this "great reset" idiocy is demanding well thought out arguments.
...get lost or put me on ignore
Decide one way or another, but put an end to trying to telling me what to do !!!
How stupid is it for you to complain I'm telling you what to do while demanding I do what you want?
 

JohnLarue

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Funny to see a guy pushing this "great reset" idiocy is demanding well thought out arguments.
Disappointing to see a guy who was asked for well thought out counter arguments to not provide any and instead revert to insults
If the well thought counter arguments are beyond your capabilities , just say so
However without any well thought out counter arguments you are not providing anything other than insults. And what is value of that?

How stupid is it for you to complain I'm telling you what to do while demanding I do what you want?
I gave you lots of options including saying nothing and/ or providing well thought out counter arguments, even putting me on ignore and "get lost'
All of which would lead to less hostility
Instead you stay with the insults and orders for me to cease and desist
Oh yes I almost forgot, you like the cancel culture approach dont you?

Let me put it differently
You want to end the discussion and you think you can order me to end the discussion?
WTF?
I do not take orders from you & generally do not care to be ordered about
Nobody does
Is this news to you?
Is it a big surprise?

If you do not like the implications of the posts here , and do not have any well thought out counter arguments, you do not have to participate
But do not think for a second you can order me to do anything
What is wrong with you?
 
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