What has happened to the Niagara Forum??????

[papasmerf]

Come on people it is up to us to make this forum work.

Does anyone have to get suckered into a flame war?????????????

Or can the flamers be banned, ignored? Or better yet is, agencies, SP's MPA's be boycotted?

Keep reviews to the facts and opinions to the point. Don't let these threds become personal vendetta's. If someone gives a positive or negitive review no need to argue with them, say your peace and move on.

This is ment as an information exchange. If you want to hold debates maybe it is best done in another forum, meant for that.

 

[WoodPeckr]

Think about it....

Originally posted by papasmerf

...Keep reviews to the facts.....

......This is meant as an information exchange....
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Maybe the NF forum was just getting too hot. Besides the bickering agency BS, there was plenty of facts and plenty of information being exchanged. Perhaps a tad too much. It is becoming well known that the two "hot spots" in Canada for fun & frolic are Niagara Falls and MTL. This may be the price of our success, to end up being put between a rock and a hard place.

 

[Rounder]

Boycotts won't work. If Agency A knows that we are boycotting agencies that plant reviews etc, they could post as if they were trying to shill for Agency B. Bottom line is that we can't get sucked into flame wars.

What papasmerf said about this board being used for an exchange of information is right on the mark.

I really hope that they quit reviewing posts. Even if we have to put up with idiots that just want to start trouble, it would be better than the way it is now.

 

[ycghiydvo]

I don't agree rounder. The big thing is that we have a place here to do reviews. We can go to other boards, we can go to other areas. That is what happened. Everybody disappeared. Spontenaity is gone.Why bother to post if you know your not going to see it for sometimes as long as 12 hours?

I don't blame the moderators as they are doing what they think best. Besides, boycotts don't hurt the agencies as much as the ladies themselves. I deal with the agencies, whichever one has the lady I want to see, not because they are an agency because they have the lady I want to see.

The only thing to do is to wait it out. I lament doing so because instead of helping the board it is probably going to kill it, as witnessed by the activity here. But wait it out, hoping the bad seeds won't be back, and that all will return to "normalcy" or whatever passes for that in the NF region.

 

[y2kmark]

Response Time??

The previous post was about 20 minutes ago. Seems reasonably good to me. I think ore users have been lost to this board due to the censoring of content than to slow turnaround. Banning information on some agencies has been stupid and just plain wrong.

 

[Ripper77]

Ripper,

It was not the intent of Fred Zed, Sheik, or any of the other moderators to shut down the Niagara forum. They are only being responsible trying to keep the crazy infiltrator off these boards.

The one thing i have to disagree with is banning of agencies or the review of girls from such agencies.I beleive in the freedom of speech and to express that with sincerity.I am from the USA so that may acoount for such beleifs.Unless you are out to harm someone by your words or distort the truth. Thanks,Rich

 

[Fred Zed]

Re: Response Time??

Banning information on some agencies has been stupid and just plain wrong.

Some of your guys either have short memories or just haven't bothered to read old posts.

 

[gbrochester]

Re: Re: Response Time??

Some of your guys either have short memories or just haven't bothered to read old posts.

I think my memory is OK, and what I remember most are the pissing contests between the owners of one particular agency and this board's mods. Perhaps if offending threads had just been sumarily closed rather than responded to (as has happened on at least one other board), things would have turned out differently. As it is, let's face it, the terb Niagara board is effectively dead. I come back here mostly by force of habit, but other boards have taken the lead for NF. As others have suggested, I imagine this is fine with Fred, as he's made it clear more than once that the NF forum is more trouble than it's worth to him. It's unfortunate, but c'est la vie.

 

[ycghiydvo]

I was only here a short time before the NF area became reviewed. I only caught the tail end of the problems, and then it became reviewed.

I am only voicing my unhappiness about this situation. Will it change? I would like it to, as I would like to return to the old days. Will it? Let's hope so, because a board like the one should be lively, spontaneous, and without it being so, the lack of activity will kill it.

 

[ycghiydvo]

Sorry, one other quick thing...

You know that this thread would not have survived on that other board, so it shows that at least the ideas here are open for discussion, even though they are delayed, so thank you for at least that moderators...

 

[fanofthehobby]

Fred, I don't think anyone wants to rehash prior problems this board has had although I personally feel their was a tangible dropoff in board participation when TERB made the ecisions it did restricting posting by certain entities. And please be clear I am not disagreeing with the policies that the powers that be imposed, but the increase of posts I have seen on other local boards in proportional to the decrease in posts here which is a shame. TERB was a relevation when I happened upon it. It has not only saved me countless $$ from sterring me away from inadequate providers but the women I have met as a result of positive reviews have been among the highlights of my life {I don't get out much!} I was in San Fran for a week and just got back, Iwill post a report in the lounge but my point is , after a week away I log on and what have I missed ? Nothing! No great new SPs being reviewed , no threads I can add any info to , no reason to log on routinely to contribute. If people cant get info or contribute they move on, goes with the cyberspace concept.
Anyway my suggestion... shorten or eliminate monitering times before posts, make the board more spontaneous, leave your banned posters in place to prevent future problems and pick your brain to come up with ideas to increase activity on this board.

 

[fanofthehobby]

This is a very active region for the hobbier as evidenced by the great response to the parties. If things get better great, if things get ugly again then I would again make a bold suggestion and say just pull the plug and elininate the Niagra Region from TERB and we'll find alternate ways to share info.
I believe in TERB and its principles and approve of the way its run
but agree lately all is not right and it needs SOMETHING to get it up and vibrant again. So lets work together and do what we need to to make this the best area review board again...
Who"s with me .. Lets GOOOOO...{GO not GOO!}

 

[pineappleguy]

Not sure...

I'm kind of new to this board, so I'm not sure why it had to be switched to reviewed/moderated instead of just moderated.

I used to be a frequent visitor and occasional poster on the Priviate Eyes segment of www.stripclublist.com. (Different handle there) I used to post reviews of dancers and answer general information questions where possible. That forum became so overrun with drama and hurtful comments by uninformed self-proclaimed experts that I had to abandon it. (I never participated in the drama.) I checked back recently and threats to shut it down by the moderator cleaned it up for awhile, but it's going back to it's bad-old ways rapidly.

I would hate to see posters on that forum flooding this one with their BS if PE@SCL got shut down and this one got opened back up.

That being said, the delay in posting on this forum probably does have an influence on its usability and spontenaity.

Someone suggested blacklisting any offending posters, but that is easily circumvented by adopting a new handle. Perhaps an alternate approach would work. I don't know if this is technically feasible with the software that runs this forum, but perhaps a "whitelist" of userids known to belong to posters that respect the rules could be implemented. Members of the "whitelist" would get their messages posted immediately. Messages from userids not on the list would have to get reviewed. Maintaining such a list would be a bit of effort for the moderators, but perhaps less effort than manually reading and approving every single post to go to this forum.

Thoughts?

 

[ycghiydvo]

Maybe goooing will help....

I agree with fan... how about another trial, and if it gets bad, pull the plug permanently... I am willing to take the chance... anyone else?

 

[Gentle Ben]

[B... how about another trial, and if it gets bad, pull the plug permanently... I am willing to take the chance... anyone else? [/B]

I'd love to see non reviewed posts , but if closing the board down is at risk ,, I honestly believe there are enough ***holes that would start the hole thing rolling again, just to have just that, shut down

 

[papasmerf]

Ben,

I have to agree with you.

There is more then enough proof that some would close this forum down.

 

[ycghiydvo]

Another idea

I don't know if it is possible, but how about making the forum closed to all who do not have more than a certain amount of posts or a certain length of time on the board?

This will make sure that those who are banned can not get on the forum for a significant amount of time.

As an example: Someone who has a year or so on the board, but little posts can join. Someone else who has posted, say 25 times over the course of a month can.

I still haven't worked it all out yet, but it would prevent those with a new handle every week from posting, stopping those already banned from starting the trouble over again.

Is this a possibility? Any other ideas?

 

[Gentle Ben]

ycghiydvo, Im sure there are limitations to what can be done with the software, a lot of questions have been answered already with respect to Posters, I dont like the way this forum is at present as I've already stated, but I also do think that what we are seeing is likely the best that can be offered for the time being. I'm not sticking up, or pointing fingers at anyone, I do honestly believe that if known posters could be allowed instant posts or even without a lot of trouble , we would be seeing that.
Another note here, as Ive already stated previously, we all seem to get a lot of enjoyment, or use out of TERB, but how much revenue is generated from the Niagara Threads and its poster?
How many people that enjoy terb are actually supporters?

 

[ycghiydvo]

After more than a few PMs and e-mail, it has been pointed out to me that my suggestion doesn't fly.

So, my question is, can anyone come up something better, or are we seeing the last breath slide out of this forum?

A new slogan, "Embrace your Bitterness"

Sorry, can't help it.

 

[fanofthehobby]

On a happier note, I find my recent posts have been almost instantaneous which is a good thing...