The US abstains, the vote passes.
Lets hope the genocide ends.
Lets hope the genocide ends.
UNSC passes resolution demanding immediate ceasefire in Gaza
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The UN HRC will publish a report saying Israel is committing genocide.
The use forced the change of the word 'permanent' to 'lasting' ceasefire, which means its a 2 week ceasefire.
But this marks the first time that the US has allowed a resolution against Israel to pass at the UNSC, which is momentous in of itself.
We'll see.
I expect it'll take more than two weeks to plan and start implementing hostage releases.
And if aid and the press gets into Gaza its going to make restarting it harder.
Netanyahu's only plan is to attack Rafah, where 1.5 million refugees are sheltering and which he has zero support for doing.
Its a big question whether Netanyahu can play this one like he did the previous temporary truce.
Its not a permanent ceasefire and its way too late but its something.
Here's the nitty gritty of behind the scenes and how US finally caved with a huff.
They have already been denied justice for many years, at least since 1967, so it's a surprise?
Odds of Hamas listening to the UNSC and "immediately and unconditionally" releasing all their hostages? 0%
Odds of Frank caring about Hamas not complying? 0%
It would not take 2 weeks for Hamas to release the hostages. It would take less than a day as all they need to do is send out and order and tell Israel when they can expect the release. The only cases it would take longer is for the hostages in such poor heath condition.
Odds of Frank caring about Hamas not complying? 0%
It would not take 2 weeks for Hamas to release the hostages. It would take less than a day as all they need to do is send out and order and tell Israel when they can expect the release. The only cases it would take longer is for the hostages in such poor heath condition.
Israel has 7000 Palestinian hostages.
How long will it take them to be released?
Israel is not abiding by the ICJ Genocide ruling, they are now not abiding by the UNSC ceasefire call.
Yes, I said it then, I said it when Russia has used it and I said it each of the 4 times the US used it to prolong the genocide.
More from the UN report on the Israeli genocide.
A/HRC/55/73
Palestine and the context of genocide
10. Historical patterns of genocide demonstrate that persecution, discrimination and other preliminary stages prepare the ground for the annihilation stage of genocide.20 In Palestine, displacing and erasing the Indigenous Arab presence has been an inevitable part of the forming of Israel as a ‘Jewish state’.21 In 1940, Joseph Weitz, head of the Jewish Colonization Department stated: “there is no room for both peoples, together in this country. The only solution is Palestine without Arabs. And there is no other way but to transfer all of them: not one village, not one tribe should be left.”22
11. Practices leading to the mass ethnic cleansing of Palestine’s non-Jewish population occurred in 1947–1949, and again in 1967, when Israel occupied the West Bank, east Jerusalem and the Gaza Strip with mass displacement of hundreds of thousands, killings, destruction of villages and towns, looting and the denial of the right to return of expelled Palestinians.
They demanded an immediate ceasefire.
Both sides can't return hostages until after the immediate ceasefire.
This must really piss you off.
You've been clear that demanding hostages be released for a temporary ceasefire is demanding Hamas give up its leverage and completely unacceptable.
I expect it pisses you off more.
For the US to allow this resolution to pass is massive, even though it has issues.
I back it for that reason.
I expect you're more pissed about protesters targeting Genocide Joe at his biggest fundraiser of the year.
Israel probably could have used it get the hostages back but Netanyahu instead seems intent on maintaining the genocide to keep is career alive.
That leaves Israel as a rogue state, ignoring the UNSC, ignoring today's new additional protocols from the ICJ and continuing to starve children to death.
Biden is left trying to argue that anyone can ignore UNSC resolutions and doubling down on the genocide when he had an easy out.
This will be the end of zionism as a movement.
It make take a few years, but its coming.
This was Belgium today.
Why?
So you back this - even though you disagree with it - just because it shows the US doing something?
Not sure why you would expect that I'd be pissed about that.
He's a fucking shit show - of course he isn't going to respect it.
You yourself have said that anything that puts a time limit on the ceasefire and demands Hamas return hostages should be rejected by Hamas because it destroys their leverage.
With Hamas not likely to comply, Bibi is going to take advantage to blame them for not complying and do what he wants to.
Isn't that situation exactly why you've said the previous cease fire proposals were to be rejected?
Anything that required Hamas to give up its leverage was a bad idea.
Odds that Basketcase would put the blame on Netanyahoo for the genocide....zero. "Hamas made him do it!"
If your reasoning is as black and white as yours is, I could see why you'd make that argument.
Its along the lines of 'rump will destroy the US', so all evil that keeps that from happening is therefore acceptable.
This wasn't a negotiated ceasefire, this was the international community getting Biden to allow a UNSC resolution against Israel to pass. Biden immediately stepped back and said Israel doesn't have to abide and continues to support Israel. That it was unfavourable to Palestinians isn't as important as the power of now having the entire world stand against the continuation of the genocide.
If you combine that with the new ICJ rulings, the UN report saying Israel is committing genocide, which the MSM is ignoring, and this UNSC resolution it leaves Israel as entirely isolated from the world in the same way North Korea has been. That leaves Biden trying to argue that UNSC resolutions do not need to be obeyed and enforced, which puts the US on trial while Biden faces even larger protests.
Israel is now a country that the world sees is starving children to death despite calls from the UNSC and the ICJ.
How does zionism as a movement ever recover from this?
Blame Netanyahu for many things? Absolutely. Believing this genocide nonsense. Sorry, not going to accept invented definitions.
