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U.S. would intervene militarily if China invades Taiwan, Biden says

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President Joe Biden said Monday that the U.S. would intervene militarily if China were to invade Taiwan, saying the burden to protect Taiwan is “even stronger” after Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.


It marks one of the most forceful presidential statements in support of self-governing in decades.

Biden, at a news conference in Tokyo, said “yes” when asked if he was willing to get involved militarily to defend Taiwan if China invaded.

“That’s the commitment we made,” he added.

The U.S. traditionally has avoided making such an explicit security guarantee to Taiwan, with which it no longer has a mutual defence treaty, instead maintaining a policy of “strategic ambiguity” about how far it would be willing to go if China invaded.

The 1979 Taiwan Relations Act, which has governed U.S. relations with the island, does not require the U.S. to step in militarily to defend Taiwan if China invades, but makes it American policy to ensure Taiwan has the resources to defend itself and to prevent any unilateral change of status in Taiwan by Beijing.

Biden’s comments drew a sharp response from the mainland, which has claimed Taiwan to be a rogue province.

Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Wang Wenbin expressed “strong dissatisfaction and resolute opposition” to Biden’s comments, sayin: “China has no room for compromise or concessions on issues involving China’s core interests such as sovereignty and territorial integrity.”

He added, “China will take firm action to safeguard its sovereignty and security interests, and we will do what we say.”

A White House official said Biden’s comments did not reflect a policy shift.

Speaking alongside Japanese Prime Minister Fumio Kishida, Biden said any effort by China to use force against Taiwan would “just not be appropriate,” adding that it “will dislocate the entire region and be another action similar to what happened in Ukraine.”

China has stepped up its military provocations against democratic Taiwan in recent years aimed at intimidating it into accepting Beijing’s demands to unify with the communist mainland.

“They’re already flirting with danger right now by flying so close and all the manoeuvres that are undertaken,” Biden said of China.

Under the “one China” policy, the U.S. recognizes Beijing as the government of China and doesn’t have diplomatic relations with Taiwan.

However, the U.S. maintains unofficial contacts including a de facto embassy in Taipei, the capital, and supplies military equipment for the island’s defence.

Biden said it is his “expectation” that China would not try to seize Taiwan by force, but he said that assessment “depends upon just how strong the world makes clear that that kind of action is going to result in long-term disapprobation by the rest of the community.”

He added that deterring China from attacking Taiwan was one reason why it’s important that Russian President Vladimir Putin “pay a dear price for his barbarism in Ukraine,” lest China and other nations get the idea that such action is acceptable.

Fearing escalation with nuclear-armed Russia, Biden quickly ruled out putting U.S. forces into direct conflict with Russia, but he has shipped billions of dollars in U.S. military assistance that has helped Ukraine put up a stiffer-than-expected resistance to Russia’s onslaught.

Taipei cheered Biden’s remarks, with Ministry of Foreign Affairs spokesperson Joanne Ou expressing “sincere welcome and gratitude” for the comments.

“The challenge posed by China to the security of the Taiwan Strait has drawn great concern in the international community,” said Ou.

“Taiwan will continue to improve its self-defence capabilities, and deepen cooperation with the United States and Japan and other like-minded countries to jointly defend the security of the Taiwan Strait and the rules-based international order, while promoting peace, stability and prosperity in the Indo-Pacific region.”

It’s not the first time Biden has pledged to defend Taiwan against a Chinese attack, only for administration officials to later claim there had been no change to American policy.

In a CNN town hall in October, Biden was asked about using the U.S. military to defend Taiwan and replied, “Yes, we have a commitment to do that.”

Biden’s comments came just before he formally launched a long-anticipated Indo-Pacific trade pact that excludes Taiwan.

White House national security adviser Jake Sullivan confirmed Sunday that Taiwan isn’t among the governments signed up for the Indo-Pacific Economic Framework, which is meant to allow the U.S. to work more closely with key Asian economies on issues like supply chains, digital trade, clean energy and anticorruption.

Inclusion of Taiwan would have irked China.

Sullivan said the U.S. wants to deepen its economic partnership with Taiwan on a one-to-one basis.

 

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The U.S. will provide billions of dollars' worth of military weapons sold by
Boeing, General Dynamics and other merchants of death to Taiwan at tax
payers' expense. Biden's military intervention will be intervention like
providing intelligence to Ukraine to take out a few Russian officers
to help prolong the war.
 

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The U.S. will provide military weapons sold by Boeing, General Dynamics
and other merchants of death to Taiwan at the expense of tax payers. Biden's
military intervention will be intervention like providing intelligence to Ukraine
to take out a few Russian generals to help prolong the war.
You're a big time military expert now, huh?
 

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The foot-in- mouth disease, like stuttering and asthma, he's been struggling with it all his life.
 
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No way he sends in the military against China. China is tougher and smarter than Russia and he wouldn't send his military in against Russia. It's all talk.
 

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The foot-in- mouth disease, like stuttering and asthma, he's been struggling with it all his life.
And yet he's had a long and successful political career and is now president.

China backed Putin's attack on Ukraine to lay the grounds for Taiwan.
Right now they are probably reconsidering watching the sanctions, military failure and global reactions.
China might be able to win that one but would they risk pissing off their biggest trade partner?
 

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And yet he's had a long and successful political career and is now president.

China backed Putin's attack on Ukraine to lay the grounds for Taiwan.
Right now they are probably reconsidering watching the sanctions, military failure and global reactions.
China might be able to win that one but would they risk pissing off their biggest trade partner?
LOL! When China is ready to cross the strait, it will do so no matter how much "success" Joe enjoyed.
 

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LOL! When China is ready to cross the strait, it will do so no matter how much "success" Joe enjoyed.
The majority of military pundits opine that China is years away from that kind of military operation. The corrupt and inept Chinese military is generally believed to make Russia's fumbling army look like an elite force.

Biden won't ever have to stand behind his words because China knows they can't do the operation and the very fact that the Americans MIGHT be standing there with guns means that the PRC will never work up the nerve.

Another win for Biden.
 
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The majority of military pundits opine that China is years away from that kind of military operation. The corrupt and inept Chinese military is generally believed to make Russia's fumbling army look like an elite force.

Biden won't ever have to stand behind his words because China knows they can't do the operation and the very fact that the Americans MIGHT be standing there with guns means that the PRC will never work up the nerve.

Another win for Biden.
LOL!! A win??? His own people had to contradict him, how is that a win?
 

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LOL!! A win??? His own people had to contradict him, how is that a win?
It's brilliant. Now the PRC has doubts about what America would do without Biden having to bring the corrupt and cowardly GOP and its horde of grifting traitors in line for a formal policy change.
 

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LOL! When China is ready to cross the strait, it will do so no matter how much "success" Joe enjoyed.
LOL

China would suffer enormous casualties trying to take Taiwan. Yes, they will likely succeed. But, there is a chance they have the same issues Russia does in its military. Plus, they lack several things they would need to actually take the island without catastrophic carnage. They do not have a blue sea navy, so they could be messed up fairly quickly. An airborne assault would likely be bloody. Biden's promise will make the Chinese think twice, three or maybe even four times. I think it prevents a war in the Pacific. I think Taiwan could re-unify with China at some point, but after what they did to Hong Kong, I can't see it happening anytime soon.
 

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Biden's promise will make the Chinese think twice, three or maybe even four times. I think it prevents a war in the Pacific.
I think it does the opposite to be honest with you. As a matter of fact Biden is either the worse diplomat I have ever seen or he is very very ill. Or both
 

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China would suffer enormous casualties trying to take Taiwan. Yes, they will likely succeed. But, there is a chance they have the same issues Russia does in its military. Plus, they lack several things they would need to actually take the island without catastrophic carnage. They do not have a blue sea navy, so they could be messed up fairly quickly. An airborne assault would likely be bloody. Biden's promise will make the Chinese think twice, three or maybe even four times. I think it prevents a war in the Pacific. I think Taiwan could re-unify with China at some point, but after what they did to Hong Kong, I can't see it happening anytime soon.
I agree. China is not ready to cross the strait. YET. However, one day, soon, it will be and then they'll go ahead whether the world likes it or not. Biden's promises are not worth the teleprompter photons as his handlers already reversed his position.
 

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This Biden admin is really beyond stupid and senile. They really have no clue about the oriental mind. If they keep up with this shit, they force China to attack as Xi cannot be seen to be weak. I thought Trump was stupid, but he makes Biden look like a freakin genius.
 

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I think it does the opposite to be honest with you. As a matter of fact Biden is either the worse diplomat I have ever seen or he is very very ill. Or both
So....you think that is going to make China invade sooner?

I think this is the USA standing up for the status quo. Is that the correct move? Maybe. If I was Taiwan, I wouldn't want to be under Beijing's thumb. I mean, look how they've gutted any sense of democracy in Hong Kong. The same thing would happen to Taipei. There has been speculation that China might launch an assault on Taiwan while the world is distracted by Ukraine. I seriously wonder if China is anywhere near up for it though. I mean, they have a massive manpower advantage, and they've pumped billions into the PLA & PLAN, but do they have the tactics and experience to launch an invasion? Taiwan isn't some border town along the border with India. I'm not saying they would be like Russia in Ukraine, but Taiwan has a lot of defences, a strong airforce (tiny compared to China), and I would imagine their people would fight like hell against an invasion.

There is also the fact the island is around 170km off shore, so they would need naval competence and combined air support. And....well, we really don't know what their army is capable of. They have had border skirmishes with India and what not, but a full blown battle...They could be great, or a disaster. I know the Taiwan air force is very well trained. They could knock out a lot of China's jets quickly....but would likely get overwhelmed by sheer numbers.
 

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LOL

China would suffer enormous casualties trying to take Taiwan. Yes, they will likely succeed. But, there is a chance they have the same issues Russia does in its military. Plus, they lack several things they would need to actually take the island without catastrophic carnage. They do not have a blue sea navy, so they could be messed up fairly quickly. An airborne assault would likely be bloody. Biden's promise will make the Chinese think twice, three or maybe even four times. I think it prevents a war in the Pacific. I think Taiwan could re-unify with China at some point, but after what they did to Hong Kong, I can't see it happening anytime soon.
China has 2 aircraft carriers and countless amphibious landing ships. Its nice to be all theoretical about what it would cost Taiwan and China, but do you understand the massive global depression this would cause?
 

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I'm not saying they would be like Russia in Ukraine, but Taiwan has a lot of defences, a strong airforce (tiny compared to China), and I would imagine their people would fight like hell against an invasion.
You don't have to imagine. Taiwanese has their history of fighting oppression
by Chiang Kai-Shek's Nationalist Party from the 1950s through 1980s before
they turned democratic. They also have a history of fighting Japanese invasion
near the end of the 19th century. The force taken by Chiang's Kuomintang
to pacify dissenters in Taiwan made what PRC did to Hong Kong protestors
like child's play. And yet given that Chiang and his nationalist party were
almost like angels by comparison with the brutality of its rivaling communist
party invasion into Taiwan and subjugation of its people would be a cakewalk
to the PRC.
 

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So....you think that is going to make China invade sooner?

I think this is the USA standing up for the status quo. Is that the correct move? Maybe. If I was Taiwan, I wouldn't want to be under Beijing's thumb. I mean, look how they've gutted any sense of democracy in Hong Kong. The same thing would happen to Taipei. There has been speculation that China might launch an assault on Taiwan while the world is distracted by Ukraine. I seriously wonder if China is anywhere near up for it though. I mean, they have a massive manpower advantage, and they've pumped billions into the PLA & PLAN, but do they have the tactics and experience to launch an invasion? Taiwan isn't some border town along the border with India. I'm not saying they would be like Russia in Ukraine, but Taiwan has a lot of defences, a strong airforce (tiny compared to China), and I would imagine their people would fight like hell against an invasion.

There is also the fact the island is around 170km off shore, so they would need naval competence and combined air support. And....well, we really don't know what their army is capable of. They have had border skirmishes with India and what not, but a full blown battle...They could be great, or a disaster. I know the Taiwan air force is very well trained. They could knock out a lot of China's jets quickly....but would likely get overwhelmed by sheer numbers.
China is usually very conservative when it comes to different political positions. And values international market relationship. The States just changed that..
Some things are more important to any country. No matter what the States ever said or did.. nobody ever bent to their threats. And if anything they got themselves enemies.
now the states are trying some “bigger fish” like Russia and China.! Good luck with that
 
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