Trump commutes Roger Stone’s sentence

[kherg007]

Is pardoning drug traffickers better?

Pardons are pardons. Just because you don't like one over the other doesn't make one worse than the other. You don't like this law? Then change it.
Don't just whine about it after the fact.

It's not about liking the law. It's about using a power corruptly, as what happens in 3rd world dictatorships. None of the obama pardons and commutations was for people who said they were protecting Obama during an investigation of obama, in contrast to what stone said ("he knows I was under enormous pressure to turn on him", said stone. He instead stuck to his lies and was found guilty unanimously).

And true 1715 commutations, pardons, clemency under Obama. . Most were not drug traffickers, but instead nonviolent drug users caught up in mandatory sentences. And, all of them DID serve time, as they were in prison, when they got commuted or pardoned etc. Obama did not do this to say they should not be punished (which is what Trump did) but he said they had been punished enough and the mandatory sentences from the drug wars were too severe.

 

[drc75]

Like I said, is what Trump did by pardoning him illegal?

Once more, it was NOT a pardon. His conviction still stands. If you want to bitch and argue, at least get your terminology or knowledge correct.

 

[Boober69]

It's not about liking the law. It's about using a power corruptly, as what happens in 3rd world dictatorships. None of the obama pardons and commutations was for people who said they were protecting Obama during an investigation of obama, in contrast to what stone said ("he knows I was under enormous pressure to turn on him", said stone. He instead stuck to his lies and was found guilty unanimously).

And true 1715 commutations, pardons, clemency under Obama. . Most were not drug traffickers, but instead nonviolent drug users caught up in mandatory sentences. And, all of them DID serve time, as they were in prison, when they got commuted or pardoned etc. Obama did not do this to say they should not be punished (which is what Trump did) but he said they had been punished enough and the mandatory sentences from the drug wars were to severe.

Tell that to all the people who overdosed and/or had their lives ruined due to drugs. Funny how that's overlooked in your comparison.
25,000+ drug overdose deaths in 2015 alone.

But the left considers the pursuit of getting Trump out of office much more important. Funny indeed.

 

[Boober69]

Once more, it was NOT a pardon. His conviction still stands. If you want to bitch and argue, at least get your terminology or knowledge correct.

Commute, pardon, my, my you radical leftists get so touchy...would you all have lost your minds even more if he was pardoned? haha that's funny!

 

[jcpro]

Tell that to all the people who overdosed and/or had their lives ruined due to drugs. Funny how that's overlooked in your comparison.
25,000+ drug overdose deaths in 2015 alone.

But the left considers the pursuit of getting Trump out of office much more important. Funny indeed.

Drug dealing is a victimless crime according to the lefty logic. Never mind hundreds of thousands deaths, destroyed lives and families, and the constant gang shootings. Dealing smack or fentanyl is just a job for the disadvantaged youths. Just don't do it in the nice middle class neighborhood or we'll stomp on you.

 

[Leimonis]

Drug dealing is a victimless crime according to the lefty logic. Never mind hundreds of thousands deaths, destroyed lives and families, and the constant gang shootings. Dealing smack or fentanyl is just a job for the disadvantaged youths. Just don't do it in the nice middle class neighborhood or we'll stomp on you.

Wake me up when you have evidence that a dem president pardoned HIS OWN drug dealer.
Kinda like your orange POS did.

 

[Frankfooter]

Wake me up when you have evidence that a dem president pardoned HIS OWN drug dealer.
Kinda like your orange POS did.

Likely Rob and Doug would have pardoned Rob's crack dealer if they could.
Just so they could have fun times in that police party wagon Doug wanted built.

 

[kherg007]

Tell that to all the people who overdosed and/or had their lives ruined due to drugs. Funny how that's overlooked in your comparison.
25,000+ drug overdose deaths in 2015 alone.

But the left considers the pursuit of getting Trump out of office much more important. Funny indeed.

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Not sure what you're getting at about releasing drug users - and wrre talking users, not traffickers - causing drug deaths? Are you saying Obama is sending them to their doom by letting them out so they can OD? Or that we need to issue draconiun laws so as to dissuade people from taking drugs - thus letting people out of gaol after a few years would make people more likely to OD ? Many were marijuana users too.
You lot keeping talking about drug traffickers, this is not drug traffickers. Drug users. Who have been serving sentences in gaol.

 

[K Douglas]

?
Not sure what you're getting at about releasing drug users - and wrre talking users, not traffickers - causing drug deaths? Are you saying Obama is sending them to their doom by letting them out so they can OD? Or that we need to issue draconiun laws so as to dissuade people from taking drugs - thus letting people out of gaol after a few years would make people more likely to OD ? Many were marijuana users too.
You lot keeping talking about drug traffickers, this is not drug traffickers. Drug users. Who have been serving sentences in gaol.

People don't get sentenced federally for being a drug user. These were drug dealers, prob most were marijuana dealers. And even then they were likely repeat offenders.

 

[bver_hunter]

Like I said, is what Trump did by pardoning him illegal? If not, then it's just more whining from the radical left who has spent 4 years on failed witch hunts to heal their suffering since he won the election.

At least he didn't pardon convicted terrorists like Clinton did. WOuld you say that's much worse? Or is your TDS so bad that even terrorists are nice people in your view?

Stone should have spent time in jail, but The Bunker Bitch commuted his sentence. But as usual you come out with the BS of a "Witch Hunt", especially as so many of your cult leader's cronies went to jail or were indicted on very corrupt criminal charges. Yet that Bunker Bitch pushed the fake notion that Clinton was corrupt and would be jailed when he became the President. What a bullshitter!!

But if you are referring to Susan Rosenberg, well she spent 16 years in jail on charges of possessing weapons, explosives etc. However, in jail she became an author, an AIDS Activist, and even got a Masters Degree. Many critics stated that she did more than her expected time, and that is the reason for her sentence being commuted.

 

[wigglee]

Meuller was a pansy for the Left. Everyone knows that.

Has Trump broken any laws pardoning Stone? If not, then you may not like it but no laws have been broken. If the law allows him to do it, then so be it.
You don't like the laws? Then change them.
Just like if you don't like the election laws, change them before the election, not complain afterwards when your candidate has lost.

Sounds like the same rationale Putin supporters use to justify the corrupt , authoritarian regime in Russia.

 

[Boober69]

Sounds like the same rationale Putin supporters use to justify the corrupt , authoritarian regime in Russia.

You mean logic?

 

[Boober69]

Maybe look up

Stone should have spent time in jail, but The Bunker Bitch commuted his sentence. But as usual you come out with the BS of a "Witch Hunt", especially as so many of your cult leader's cronies went to jail or were indicted on very corrupt criminal charges. Yet that Bunker Bitch pushed the fake notion that Clinton was corrupt and would be jailed when he became the President. What a bullshitter!!

But if you are referring to Susan Rosenberg, well she spent 16 years in jail on charges of possessing weapons, explosives etc. However, in jail she became an author, an AIDS Activist, and even got a Masters Degree. Many critics stated that she did more than her expected time, and that is the reason for her sentence being commuted.

Funny how you refer to Susan Rosenberg who was part of a left-wing terrorist group planning on overthrowing the government...predictible you would support one of your COmmies when trying to make a statement.

Liberals have a tendency to kiss & forget with terrorists...

Try looking up Pardongate...and the FALN commutation under Clinton.

And yes, Hilary should be in jail. That's old new though.

 

[Frankfooter]

Liberals have a tendency to kiss & forget with terrorists...

 

[toguy5252]

Liberals have a tendency to kiss & forget with terrorists...

As usual you are right. I keep forgetting about the love affair between Obama and Kim Jong Un.

 

[Frankfooter]

"On October 7, 2016, after WikiLeaks released its first set of then-Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta's emails, prosecutors say Stone received a text message from 'an associate of the high-ranking Trump campaign official' that said 'well done,' signaling that the Trump campaign was looped in on Stone's quest for dirt on Democrats.

"The associate and the high-ranking campaign official are not named in the complaint, though the indictment describes how Stone told a reporter that what Assange had in the unreleased emails was good for the Trump campaign. Stone responded at the time, 'I'd tell [the high-ranking Trump Campaign official] but he doesn't call me back'."

"An email matching that wording that was published by The New York Times shows that the official Stone referred to was Steve Bannon.

"After the October 7 releases, Stone boasted to 'senior Trump Campaign officials' that he had correctly predicted the data dump, prosecutors say."

Stone repeatedly insisted publicly, and in testimony to Congress, that he had not attempted to contact to WikiLeaks and had not tried to serve as any sort of intermediary between the Trump campaign and WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange during the release of the emails, which were aimed at harming Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign.

Donald Trump's commutation of Roger Stone's sentence is even worse than it looks

President Donald Trump's decision to commute the sentence of longtime political confidant Roger Stone late Friday night drew the usual outrage from Democrats and silence from Republicans -- yet another norm busted by a man who seems to revel in doing things that no one who has held the job in...

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The judge in the Stone trial is trying to figure out if Trump just commuted his sentence or his parole as well.
That would hilarious to see him back in prison for breaking parole.

 

[Charlemagne]

Judge seeks copy of order commuting Roger Stone sentence

Judge seeks copy of order commuting Roger Stone sentence

A federal judge on Monday sought a copy of the executive order commuting Roger Stone’s prison sentence in order to address questions about the scope of President Trump’s commutation.Judg…

thehill.com

 

[drc75]

Commute, pardon, my, my you radical leftists get so touchy...would you all have lost your minds even more if he was pardoned? haha that's funny!

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Big difference, but you don't care to recognize facts...and you have no idea of my political standing. I may think Trump is an idiot (and I do) but that doesn't make me a leftist.

 

[Frankfooter]

Judge seeks copy of order commuting Roger Stone sentence

Judge seeks copy of order commuting Roger Stone sentence

A federal judge on Monday sought a copy of the executive order commuting Roger Stone’s prison sentence in order to address questions about the scope of President Trump’s commutation.Judg…

thehill.com

Trump let him off the fine, probation and the sentence.
I'm surprised he didn't give him a bonus check as well.

 

[Boober69]

Two words: Clinton. FALN.