The Nanos Poll which gave John Tory the cammanding lead was fixed.

boodog

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"the reputation of the City of Toronto has improved, been the same, or worsened over the past four years." was asked before the voter intention was surveyed.


More than half of those surveyed said Toronto's reputation had declined (58%) during that time, while 17 per cent said it had improved. Twenty-one per cent said the city's reputation has "been the same" and 4 per cent said they were unsure.

Read more: http://toronto.ctvnews.ca/mayoral-h...ng-lead-poll-suggests-1.1987784#ixzz3CO8vT02G

With less than two months before the municipal election, Toronto mayoral hopeful John Tory has a strong lead over the other front-running candidates, a new poll suggests.

The Nanos Research poll conducted for CTV News and The Globe and Mail asks decided voters who they would cast their ballot for if an election were held today. Among those surveyed, 42 per cent said they would vote for Tory.

"If there was an election held right now, it would be a Tory sweep, very clearly," Nanos researcher Nik Nanos told CTV Toronto on Tuesday.

Tory's rivals Rob Ford and Olivia Chow trailed more than 10 percentage points behind him, receiving 28 per cent and 26 per cent respectively.

The poll also found that the former Ontario PC leader’s support was strong across the city, except in Ford’s stronghold of Etobicoke where the two candidates were virtually tied.

The telephone survey was conducted between Aug. 27 and Aug. 31 and has a sample size of 1,000 Toronto voters. It is considered accurate within plus or minus 3.1 percentage points, 19 times out of 20.

The Nanos poll also asked respondents if they thought "the reputation of the City of Toronto has improved, been the same, or worsened over the past four years."

More than half of those surveyed said Toronto's reputation had declined (58%) during that time, while 17 per cent said it had improved. Twenty-one per cent said the city's reputation has "been the same" and 4 per cent said they were unsure.


Over the last four years, Ford's tenure of the city's top political office has been dotted with scandals. But it was his shocking admission last November that he smoked crack cocaine in one of his "drunken stupors" that made him the subject of headlines around the world. His missteps, however, did not stop there.

Among his public blunders since last year was the expletive-laden rant about Toronto Police Chief Bill Blair that was captured on video. Ford was also recorded making lewd comments about former mayoral candidate Karen Stintz.

Ford's behaviour has also been mocked by late-night television hosts, including Jimmy Kimmel and Jon Stewart -- perhaps tinting the supposed stereotype that Canadians are pleasant and agreeable.

"We have a stereotype about Canadians being very sedate, reasonable people, laid back," Nancy Isenberg, a professor at Louisiana State University, told CTV Toronto. "So (Ford's behaviour) was I think counter-narrative to that."

With a front-loaded question asked first and the voter intention being asked second, no wonder Rob Ford scored so low (yes still higher than Olivia Chow) and his main rival John Tory scoring a commanding lead.
 

destillat

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Yea, no wonder...
It solidifies the obvious linkage between a useless laughing-stock mayor and the reputation of the city he allegedly leads.
No 'fixing'... just common sense.

Move along...
 

Butler1000

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Where does it state that was the first question?

Actually it was a pretty good poll question was because it asked the voting question twice. Once where they could answer "don't Know" and once where they couldn't. Both time it came out with the 12 point lead for Tory.

Its a long way to go. Anything can happen it two months. However if the candidates do continue the way they are I think this poll and its numbers will stand out as a pretty good sampling.

Sorry Boodog. Ford just isnt resonating as well this time. Partly due to his personal issues. Partly due to questions of his ability to work with council. And Olivia I think has issues with communicating her ideas and a reputation as well that doesn't carry well with voters.

Tory is the second choice of some on both sides. And the first choice of many as well. He has the best ability to work with council, and to continue to gain infrastructure from higher levels of govt.

I also think he is a "Red Tory". Of the type who successfully let this province for decades. He won't be a Ford hacker and slasher, nor a raise taxes and spend crazy Chow. He will fimd the compomises between the political divisions on council do accomplish things.

And no more stupid fights.
 

Anynym

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If you think any given poll is "clean", you should wake up and study the matter more closely.

Sure this poll may have been constructed with bias. It should be news, but it shouldn't be a surprise.

Always know who is behind any poll you see published, to get a hint of what biases were built into it.
 

Moviefan-2

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Nanos did one of the best jobs predicting the recent provincial election, even though he wasn't in the field as often as other pollsters. In part, that was because he avoided the unreliable weighting using the "most likely to vote" factor.

Also, it was Nanos who initially predicted the huge Rob Ford victory back in 2010.

I sincerely doubt Nanos did anything to try to influence the results.
 

boodog

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Voter intention poll by the Rob Ford Hater Toronto Star.

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/201...nd_the_up_express_what_were_you_thinking.html


".................... The results were similar in a Forum poll .

And as a municipal election looms thestar.com readers are itching to register their votes, even if it’s just in an online poll. John Tory was the victor of our unofficial poll, and Rob Ford was a close second. ( Click here for more municipal election polls )............................"
 

oldjones

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The TV news story doesn't say anything like the misleading headline you attached to it. If you have issues with the poll itself, why didn't you read (and cite) the actual Nanos Research document?

In any case, your hysterical, over-dramatized 'point' is still mistaken. The question about voters' sense of Toronto's reputation isn't in any way loaded, either positively or negatively, and there was not one pol mentioned in it. Unless you've been so hyper-sensitized by trying to defend Rob's constantly discreditable behaviour that you can't hear a neutral phrase like 'Toronto's reputation' without hearing a coded attack on your boy, it was a neutral question.

Even if there was the slightest shred of truth to your silly allegation that such a neutral question somehow pre-disposed folks against Rob, then all it could produce is a firmer number for the rock-solid core of his reality-avoiding fanatics. And wouldn't you know, the numbers for the various questions about Rob's trustworthiness, competence, and ability to represent us show about the same hardcore 18%, as those who think Toronto's reputation improved while he Mayored around in the drunken stupors he lied to us about. But in spite of what you call prejudicial-loading, an additional 10% or so who thought the City's rep was harmed and that he was an untrustworthy, incompetent and bad Mayor, nonetheless disliked the other candidates enough to want to put their X next to his name. Still makes 60-70% or more of us sane enough not to. Whether or not we care about anything as nebulous or lame as 'Toronto's reputation'.

There's only 18% of you who believes the world thinks better of Toronto for regularly making The Tonight Show. Finding treatment for such a minority ailment is tough, but when you go on to try use it to 'prove' everyone but you is crooked or crazy, you stand a much better chance of a berth at CAMH.
 
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