The DNC couldn't organize an orgy.....

[bver_hunter]

Yes you are defending it. You continue to tout partial results as the final.

91% of the votes have been counted and Buttigieg is still in the lead. Not that partial. As I stated Sanders will be winning the popular votes, but that will not reflect the majority of state delegates as Buttigieg will be getting the majority of the rural voters on board!!

 

[Butler1000]

91% of the votes have been counted and Buttigieg is still in the lead. Not that partial. As I stated Sanders will be winning the popular votes, but that will not reflect the majority of state delegates as Buttigieg will be getting the majority of the rural voters on board!!

You are still defending the roll out.

A partial count is an unfair count. This caucus is about showing viability for fundraising. And to get press.

It was unfair to all the candidates what happened. Stop defending the party. They fucked up totally and made themselves look stupid.

Now the nominee has to carry this baggage forward as well.

 

[Butler1000]

Btw bver Pete's "win" in delegates is only now at a 0.1% lead.

Get ready to acknowledge Sanders as the winner.

 

[bver_hunter]

You are still defending the roll out.

A partial count is an unfair count. This caucus is about showing viability for fundraising. And to get press.

It was unfair to all the candidates what happened. Stop defending the party. They fucked up totally and made themselves look stupid.

Now the nominee has to carry this baggage forward as well.

The rules were agreed prior to these nominations, so suck up to it for a change.

Iowa has screwed up in the manner in which they have conducted these ballots.

97% of the ballots have been counted and Buttigieg is still in the lead by 0.1%. Seems like it will be joint tie!!

 

[Butler1000]

The rules were agreed prior to these nominations, so suck up to it for a change.

Iowa has screwed up in the manner in which they have conducted these ballots.

97% of the ballots have been counted and Buttigieg is still in the lead by 0.1%. Seems like it will be joint tie!!

Um. They didn't agree to an app designed by the spouse of a Buttigieg operative to report the results.

Or not having results reported for three days.

Also apparently now in Polk and Blackhawk counties they had stole votes for Sanders and gave them to Steyer and Deval Patrick. It was lured and they had to backtrack them.

It's a good thing Sanders sent reps to every caucus to note the real totals and send them to the campaign.

Total cluster fuck.

 

[bver_hunter]

Um. They didn't agree to an app designed by the spouse of a Buttigieg operative to report the results.

Or not having results reported for three days.

Also apparently now in Polk and Blackhawk counties they had stole votes for Sanders and gave them to Steyer and Deval Patrick. It was lured and they had to backtrack them.

It's a good thing Sanders sent reps to every caucus to note the real totals and send them to the campaign.

Total cluster fuck.

Again you keep on harping about the app and it's connections to Buttigieg. Still that fake stuff has been debunked:

https://apnews.com/afs:Content:8464590602

Yes the caucus messed up by not testing it prior to the actual nominations. But tell us for once if it was worse than the Republicans and their real fraud in the 2018 mid terms where the count took more than 3 months?? Of course you will not acknowledge that fact and just ignore this question, as you never call out the Republicans for their corruptness.

All that the media states is that the Blackhawk County Poll was delayed as they cleared up that mistake themselves. But Polk County only discussed the general problems with the App. So not sure where you get the "stole the votes". For once post a source or name it if you cannot do the very basics on a computer / laptop / smartphone.

This was a screwup by Iowa, but not the real fucking criminal doings by the Republicans in N. Carolina and how they sent one of them to jail for it!!

 

[Butler1000]

Again you keep on harping about the app and it's connections to Buttigieg. Still that fake stuff has been debunked:

https://apnews.com/afs:Content:8464590602

Yes the caucus messed up by not testing it prior to the actual nominations. But tell us for once if it was worse than the Republicans and their real fraud in the 2018 mid terms where the count took more than 3 months?? Of course you will not acknowledge that fact and just ignore this question, as you never call out the Republicans for their corruptness.

All that the media states is that the Blackhawk County Poll was delayed as they cleared up that mistake themselves. But Polk County only discussed the general problems with the App. So not sure where you get the "stole the votes". For once post a source or name it if you cannot do the very basics on a computer / laptop / smartphone.

This was a screwup by Iowa, but not the real fucking criminal doings by the Republicans in N. Carolina and how they sent one of them to jail for it!!

Source is Status Coup on YouTube. Reported by the Sanders campaign.

And they changed the results so it's true. That's why Bernie is up.

The App connections are true. There is nothing to Debunk. They paid over $40000 to the company. The founder of the company is married to a senior Buttigieg staffer.

And the Iowa Dems didn't bother to test the app. And refused the Assistance of the Fed govt to check on its security.

In the chaos vote counts were reported wrong. But the Sanders campaign made sure to take picture proof of every caucus site. And had their own app.

When word of that got out suddenly the results were delayed for days. And discrepancies were found only in Sanders winning districts.

That's the bottom line.

 

[bver_hunter]

Source is Status Coup on YouTube. Reported by the Sanders campaign.

And they changed the results so it's true. That's why Bernie is up.

The App connections are true. There is nothing to Debunk. They paid over $40000 to the company. The founder of the company is married to a senior Buttigieg staffer.

And the Iowa Dems didn't bother to test the app. And refused the Assistance of the Fed govt to check on its security.

In the chaos vote counts were reported wrong. But the Sanders campaign made sure to take picture proof of every caucus site. And had their own app.

When word of that got out suddenly the results were delayed for days. And discrepancies were found only in Sanders winning districts.

That's the bottom line.

Again they paid $42,500 for another APP related to Buttigieg's campaign and NOT THAT DNC NOMINATION APP. Biden and another candidate used that same company for their APPS. So get your facts right for a change, unless you did not read that link that I sent you twice already!!

Did not find anywhere that the Sanders Campaign found the wrongdoings, when I googled it. So not sure about your exact links!!

Well, Status Coup is your Source. OIC!!

 

[Valcazar]

Did not find anywhere that the Sanders Campaign found the wrongdoings, when I googled it. So not sure about your exact links!!

Well, Status Coup is your Source. OIC!!

Sanders campaign does seem to have had an app. Every campaign took their own record of the votes. (Warren released theirs publically and with little fanfare early to help with verifying and cross checking the recount.). The story that because Sanders team had an app is the only reason the conspiracy was caught doesn't seem to have much backing. One of the obvious tells is that when Sanders team released their data to show Sanders was in front it was from only 40% of the precincts. If they had all the data and were obviously the winners they would have released all the data.

As it stands now, Buttigieg comes out stronger than the raw numbers because of the way delegates are broken out over districts.

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P20/IA-D#0203
Looks like Buttigieg will get 14, Sanders 12, Warren 8, Biden 6, Klobuchar 1.

With 97% in, those numbers don't look likely to change. (there may be a couple of places where if the votes are concentrated enough, Sanders could steal 1 delegate back from Buttigieg).

Sanders should win easily, especially with the GOP caucus cancelled, freeing up independents.

 

[Butler1000]

Again they paid $42,500 for another APP related to Buttigieg's campaign and NOT THAT DNC NOMINATION APP. Biden and another candidate used that same company for their APPS. So get your facts right for a change, unless you did not read that link that I sent you twice already!!

Did not find anywhere that the Sanders Campaign found the wrongdoings, when I googled it. So not sure about your exact links!!

Well, Status Coup is your Source. OIC!!

Conflict of interest. It's that simple.

 

[WyattEarp]

Conflict of interest. It's that simple.

I'm guessing almost every Democrat working in the National and State Democratic parties or Democratic political organizations has an allegiance or bias.

The Iowa Caucus has exaggerated importance because it comes after a long, long period of talking and debating with no new information. As just about every commentator, liberal and conservative, has said Iowa doesn't pick the winner it winnows down the field.

Bernie is doing fine.

 

[Butler1000]

I'm guessing almost every Democrat working in the National and State Democratic parties or Democratic political organizations has an allegiance or bias.

The Iowa Caucus has exaggerated importance because it comes after a long, long period of talking and debating with no new information. As just about every commentator, liberal and conservative, has said Iowa doesn't pick the winner it winnows down the field.

Bernie is doing fine.

Yup. I'm good with how things are shaping up.

 

[Butler1000]

Now the NYT is reporting discrepancy in over 100 caucus sites. And the DNC is talking total audit and recount.

Still think it was nothing bver?

 

[jcpro]

The Iowa results need to be struck or completely redone, if the DNC wants to salvage any credibility.

 

[bver_hunter]

Conflict of interest. It's that simple.

Just a Conspiracy Theory in the works!!

 

[bver_hunter]

Sanders campaign does seem to have had an app. Every campaign took their own record of the votes. (Warren released theirs publically and with little fanfare early to help with verifying and cross checking the recount.). The story that because Sanders team had an app is the only reason the conspiracy was caught doesn't seem to have much backing. One of the obvious tells is that when Sanders team released their data to show Sanders was in front it was from only 40% of the precincts. If they had all the data and were obviously the winners they would have released all the data.

As it stands now, Buttigieg comes out stronger than the raw numbers because of the way delegates are broken out over districts.

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P20/IA-D#0203
Looks like Buttigieg will get 14, Sanders 12, Warren 8, Biden 6, Klobuchar 1.

With 97% in, those numbers don't look likely to change. (there may be a couple of places where if the votes are concentrated enough, Sanders could steal 1 delegate back from Buttigieg).

Sanders should win easily, especially with the GOP caucus cancelled, freeing up independents.

Buttigieg performed really well considering that he was not one of the front runners at the very start of the campaign. In Iowa it could finish as a dead tie between Sanders and Buttigieg. But these are early days yet. New Hampshire and South Carolina are some of the pivotal states, that can make or break some of these candidates.
However, this will be an even more polarized election than the 2016 one, whoever is nominated. The Independents will be supporting Sanders, and that is true. But it still has to be seen if they can show up to support him all the way.

 

[Butler1000]

Tom Perez decided to call for a recanvas.

But only when the outlying precincts coming in show Sanders about to take the lead in every category just before NH.

First they release limited stats showing the edge to Buttigieg, then when the final counts are about to change that cancel the final count.

What a shit show. Thankfully people see seeing right through it.

 

[bver_hunter]

A mess with using an unproven APP. But not as bad as the real shit show when the Republicans defrauded that ballots in North Carolina during the 2018 Mid Terms. They were found to be guilty there!!

 

[Dutch Oven]

Tom Perez decided to call for a recanvas.

What is Perez doing calling for that? Isn't that the perogative of the candidates, or the Iowa Democratic Party?

 

[Butler1000]

What is Perez doing calling for that? Isn't that the perogative of the candidates, or the Iowa Democratic Party?

Exactly. And it only happened when the satellite precinct votes were narrowing the lead.

He doesn't have the right. And the Iowa Dem party is pushing back. It's now coming out it was the DNC that pressured Iowa to use the App. And were involved days ago on the ground in releasing the early numbers benefiting Buttigieg. If you go to Jimmy Dore on YouTube there is video of them cheating a coin toss.

Perez is a partisan against Sanders. Emails from the hack in 2016 prove that.