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The Capitol Riot Zip-Tie Guy Had Quite the Arsenal at Home, Prosecutors Say

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ok then since you dispute it please prove your point

going to be next to impossible since nobody knows how many guns there are in the US estimates are from 120 million to 600million

estimate 120.5 guns per 100 people but since not everyone owns a gun ......the number per person is not so easy to figure out very few are registered there are surveys but most gun owners wouldn't tell anyone squat on the phone


That top 14% of gun owners – a group of 7.7m people, or 3% of American adults – own between about eight and 140 guns each. The average is 17.

These super-owners include collectors with elaborately curated selections of historical firearms, serious hunters, firearms instructors, gunsmiths, people who love tinkering with and customizing their firearms, and Americans worried about feeding or defending their families in the wake of a disaster scenario. But you don’t have to be prepping for the breakdown of civilization to end up with 17 guns. In fact, gun enthusiasts say, it’s surprisingly easy to get to 17 – especially because many Americans inherit multiple guns from their parents and grandparents.

I’m from Texas, and I just have an assload of guns,” said John Risenhoover, a retired agent from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms who now lives in Colorado.

Risenhoover said he owns about thirty guns, including firearms given to him by his father-in-law and grandfather, his self-defense Glocks, a shotgun for hunting ducks, a larger rifle for hunting elk, and a few .22 handguns, “little plinker guns” he used to teach his children how to shoot. (His daughter is more enthusiastic than his son, he noted.)

“The fact that you’d open the closet and have a stack full of guns in this country is really not a big deal,” he said. “I know it sounds weird.”



Meet America's gun super-owners – with an average of 17 firearms each | US news | The Guardian
It’s just common sense...that’s a militia members cache .
 

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You are right, I stand corrected.

The unrestricted model (in Canada) you showed had a barrel length over 18.5".

I made the leap from Restricted to Prohibited as I mistakenly considered it a long gun, rather than a pistol. I think the min barrel length for a Restricted pistol is 4". Mag capacity limited to 10 rounds for pistol.
 
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It’s just common sense...that’s a militia members cache .
Unfortunately your wrong

you need different guns for different things

pratice bolt action.22
Plinking semi auto .22
Cheap pistol practice.22 pistol
Revolver
Semi pistol
Competition pistol if you compete
Hunting rifle deer
Hunting rifle large game ie moose
Pump shotgun
Semi auto shot gun
Over and under shotgun for skeet
Competition rifles. ( different classes you need different rifles)

then if you collect let say ww1 ww2 lee enfields while there are dozens of versions

like any hobby or collection it’s size is only limited to your budget
 

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Unfortunately your wrong

you need different guns for different things

pratice bolt action.22
Plinking semi auto .22
Cheap pistol practice.22 pistol
Revolver
Semi pistol
Competition pistol if you compete
Hunting rifle deer
Hunting rifle large game ie moose
Pump shotgun
Semi auto shot gun
Over and under shotgun for skeet
Competition rifles. ( different classes you need different rifles)

then if you collect let say ww1 ww2 lee enfields while there are dozens of versions

like any hobby or collection it’s size is only limited to your budget
I think I’m more right than you are...outside of militia groups, that is way over the top for your typical family.
 

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I think I’m more right than you are...outside of militia groups, that is way over the top for your typical family.
again if your not into guns you wouldn't get it

just because you or your family didn't have guns doesn't mean others don't

you don't get to decide what's the right number you cant prove otherwise

you can think what you want your wrong even in Canada the number was 4.5 per person in the early 2000's the number of guns in Canada has gone way up since then

there was a shop my grandfather used to take me too i don't recall where (in canada) anyways the guy collected Winchester lever action rifles he had hundreds most never fired or even taken out of the box his office all the walls were covered in rifles

anyone I know with guns has at least 6 more like 10+

In Europe before the EU some countries you could own pretty much anything and guys had dozens even machineguns plus lots of people had guns from ww2 even if they were not allowed
 

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You are right, I stand corrected.

The unrestricted model (in Canada) you showed had a barrel length over 18.5".

I made the leap from Restricted to Prohibited as I mistakenly considered it a long gun, rather than a pistol. I think the min barrel length for a Restricted pistol is 4". Mag capacity limited to 10 rounds for pistol.

Thanks I respect the fact you can admit that! most members here wont admit when they are wrong

yes its around 4" (but in mm of course) unless you have 12.6 status and grandfathered pistols

all guns in Canada are prohibited unless you have the correct license!
 

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its America why not? its what 10 guns that's nothing like tools each one has a different use. I know guys who have that many shotguns alone some for hunting some for skeet some for trap ect
Good point.
There are so many different kinds of people you might need to kill and you need to be prepared to kill all of them.
 

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again if your not into guns you wouldn't get it

just because you or your family didn't have guns doesn't mean others don't

you don't get to decide what's the right number you cant prove otherwise
Sure we do.
We can vote for governments that will ban semis and automatics and make you register all long guns.
 

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Sure we do.
We can vote for governments that will ban semis and automatics and make you register all long guns.
trolling again eh frank

first the Liberals spent over $2 billion on a failed registry its gone it never worked never made anyone safer

semiautomatic will never be gone even if banned the criminals doing the murders will still have them

even your hero said its a failure

Trudeau calls long-gun registry 'a failure' | CBC News
 

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trolling again eh frank

first the Liberals spent over $2 billion on a failed registry its gone it never worked never made anyone safer

semiautomatic will never be gone even if banned the criminals doing the murders will still have them

even your hero said its a failure

Trudeau calls long-gun registry 'a failure' | CBC News
I'm not trolling, contact, I'm just here as friendly reminder of how incredibly unpopular your views are here in Canada.
They may fly in Texas, but Canadians don't feel the same way about guns.

7 in 10 Canadians want handguns banned, contact.
87% want more funding to stop guns being smuggled up here from Texas or the rest of the US.
82% support bans on assault weapons.

 
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you are trolling you love to keep telling me how unpopular my views are

you post a bunch of polls

then when I ask you a question you divert name call or refuse to answer

this whole thread is about the USA by the way

you will NEVER have 80% of anyone agree to anything hell you wouldn't get 30% these days the poll questions are always set in a way no matter how you answer its for a ban
 

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you are trolling you love to keep telling me how unpopular my views are

you post a bunch of polls

then when I ask you a question you divert name call or refuse to answer

this whole thread is about the USA by the way

you will NEVER have 80% of anyone agree to anything hell you wouldn't get 30% these days the poll questions are always set in a way no matter how you answer its for a ban
I understand you're from Texas.
Canada is different and you should understand that and change your views if you want to fit in.
The polls aren't fake news, they are the views of Canadians.
Canadians don't want the same level of guns as Texas.
Period.

Wingnut right wingers like zip tie guy show why.
 

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I understand you're from Texas.
Canada is different and you should understand that and change your views if you want to fit in.
The polls aren't fake news, they are the views of Canadians.
Canadians don't want the same level of guns as Texas.
Period.

Wingnut right wingers like zip tie guy show why.
Never said I was from Texas. We are free country in Canada we’re allowed to have different views it’s not about fitting in. Perhaps you should take my views then.I never said the polls were fake I said they’re worded in such a way so that no matter what answer you pick that your for some sort of ban
You should stop making assumptions about me because you’ve been hundred percent incorrect each and every time you come and your troll that’s all you’re doing you’re trying to get a rise out of me but you won’t.

don't you have Jews to hate and terrorist groups to defend and support?
 

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Never said I was from Texas. We are free country in Canada we’re allowed to have different views it’s not about fitting in. Perhaps you should take my views then.I never said the polls were fake I said they’re worded in such a way so that no matter what answer you pick that your for some sort of ban
You should stop making assumptions about me because you’ve been hundred percent incorrect each and every time you come and your troll that’s all you’re doing you’re trying to get a rise out of me but you won’t.

don't you have Jews to hate and terrorist groups to defend and support?
I thought you had said you're from Texas, if you're not then you're views are just more out of touch. At least if you were from Texas you'd have a reason.
The polls are accurate, you just won't accept how unpopular your views are here.
And by the way, I'm against racism and apartheid, not the Jewish people. Which is why I support the work of B'teselem and IJVCanada.
 

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I thought you had said you're from Texas, if you're not then you're views are just more out of touch. At least if you were from Texas you'd have a reason.
The polls are accurate, you just won't accept how unpopular your views are here.
And by the way, I'm against racism and apartheid, not the Jewish people. Which is why I support the work of B'teselem and IJVCanada.
whatever you fully support know terror groups

the polls are framed so that the questions ONLY lead to the answer they want
I think your views are very unpopular here that's why your on so many ignore lists
I also don't care what you think
 

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whatever you fully support know terror groups

the polls are framed so that the questions ONLY lead to the answer they want
I think your views are very unpopular here that's why your on so many ignore lists
I also don't care what you think
Too bad you never listen to your own advice.
You should stop making assumptions about me
You claim I support terrorist groups, I don't.
I challenge you to either prove it or admit you're just slandering me.

If you get tired of losing arguments you can also put me on ignore, I'm fine with it 'cuz then I can just point out your errors for everyone else on the board and not have to waste time replying to you.
 

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Too bad you never listen to your own advice.

You claim I support terrorist groups, I don't.
I challenge you to either prove it or admit you're just slandering me.

If you get tired of losing arguments you can also put me on ignore, I'm fine with it 'cuz then I can just point out your errors for everyone else on the board and not have to waste time replying to you.
says they guy who threatens me with actual VIOLENCE and accused me of criminal acts (with NO proof) (then you go back and try and edit the threat out)

you defend iran, hamas and the plo terrorist groups, you knock Israel at every opportunity

its the internet if you think your winning I do really feel sorry for you, everyone else on the board? like I or they actually know me or you so really who cares? again I feel sorry for you if that's what makes your day.

your the one on peoples ignore lists which means your the problem and your views are not embraced around here
 
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