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K Douglas

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I've been telling folks about empty shelves for weeks now. Nobody believed me that this was a problem. Now they're texting me all the time saying wow you were right.
 

frankcastle

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Heres what you should have a 22 lr rifle and a 12 guage shotgun.

Trauma level 1st aid kit.

Cheese cloth, funnel, bleach and big container for water.

Large tarps. Zip ties. Paracord. Rope.

Siphon for gas.

Crow bar. Hammer. Tool box. Basic tools.

Lighter. Flint.

A solid hunting knife.

Compass.

Crank powered radio.

Flashlight. Head lamp.

Poncho. Winter clothes. Waterproof boots.

Freeze dried food.

Can opener.

Pot.

Portable stove.

Solar panel. Portable rechargable battery.

Sleeping bag.

Grease pencil. Waterproof matches. Maps.

Gas cans. Oil and fluids for your car. Have a real spare tire instead of a doughnut.
 
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limewater

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1 month at 2000 calories a day.
2000 calories a day is too low if you get out of bed. I.e. physically active (chores) or if you like to fool around on the computer.
Probably need 2500 on average if you want to have a life, maybe 3000 if you really want to go out and do stuff.
 

poker

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moredale7

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This was today at my local Walmart. The supply chain is struggling hard right now. Won't take much for it to start to Crack.

I'm not saying we're going to run out of food. I'm saying transporting will become the problem. Fuel prices are going up and shortages in the UK.

I'd rather be ready than not.
You're the only one supporting your narrative.

Maybe you're just lonely and the empty shelves are a metaphor for how you feel inside.
 
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oral.com

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Heres what you should have a 22 lr rifle and a 12 guage shotgun.

Trauma level 1st aid kit.

Cheese cloth, funnel, bleach and big container for water.

Large tarps. Zip ties. Paracord. Rope.

Siphon for gas.

Crow bar. Hammer. Tool box. Basic tools.

Lighter. Flint.

A solid hunting knife.

Compass.

Crank powered radio.

Flashlight. Head lamp.

Poncho. Winter clothes. Waterproof boots.

Freeze dried food.

Can opener.

Pot.

Portable stove.

Solar panel. Portable rechargable battery.

Sleeping bag.

Grease pencil. Waterproof matches. Maps.

Gas cans. Oil and fluids for your car. Have a real spare tire instead of a doughnut.
Any chance we can you can beta test your plan for us. A two year isolation test would be sufficient
 

Mr Deeds

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The irony of someone who moves off to the boonies for survival only to die of a heart attack or a stroke that could have been treated if they lived in a more accessible place.


The supply chain will be fine. To panic over that would be to pull a Justin Twoplanes when he paniced over the Ft Mac fires and said we needed 10 billion dollar surplus for 3 years when 1: it was just a glitch and 2: by the time the money would take effect, the economic effects would have been done and 3: I doubt he really meant it and was just using it as an excuse to end up over doubling his goals with no intent to ever stop. I was rather shocked that neither other major party called him out for panicking over nothing.


Great, now I am in the mood for baby back ribs.
Baby, the other white meat
Baby, it's whats for dinner.
There is a huge population of cats and dogs in the city don't think we'll starve to death anytime soon
 

Mr Deeds

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I've been telling folks about empty shelves for weeks now. Nobody believed me that this was a problem. Now they're texting me all the time saying wow you were right.
I just did a full shop yesterday didn't seem to have a problem finding anything I needed
 

NotADcotor

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When there were runs on TP in Australia I was hearing about it.

Not a peep about empty stores till this thread. Considering the sources I don't think I'll worry much.
Once in a while Wally World is short of an item or two, but I'll put to Walmart being Walmart over some sort of systemic problem. Never noticed the problem elsewhere.
Not going to panic because someone forgot to stock the cerial isle and it's only 50% full or they are out of 4 packs of AW rootbeer but loads of every other diabetes drink.
 

versitile1

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Honey is said to last indefinitely. Pressure canning some types of meat will be shelf stable for up to ten years. Freeze drying food will also make it last a long time, but foods with high fat content don’t do as well. Also, water filtration and purification tablets don’t always last indefinitely, so it’s good to check on them, if you own any of them.
 

versitile1

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Also, the date on a lot of canned or dry food items is a “best before” date, not an expiry date. I know “BB” means something entirely different on this board but on food… ummm yeah.
 

Charlemagne

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it’s less of a concern that scarcity will become desperation in rural areas… the cities may become chaotic. If it’s turning the way of civil unrest, you can bet that country folk can and will defend themselves.

cash won’t mean much if things get to the next level.
I think they'll be coming to the city to stock up.

They got no chance against city folk that really wanna harm them.
 

Jasmina

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None of that will matter when the nuclear plants explode, or the gas pipelines.


Heres what you should have a 22 lr rifle and a 12 guage shotgun.

Trauma level 1st aid kit.

Cheese cloth, funnel, bleach and big container for water.

Large tarps. Zip ties. Paracord. Rope.

Siphon for gas.

Crow bar. Hammer. Tool box. Basic tools.

Lighter. Flint.

A solid hunting knife.

Compass.

Crank powered radio.

Flashlight. Head lamp.

Poncho. Winter clothes. Waterproof boots.

Freeze dried food.

Can opener.

Pot.

Portable stove.

Solar panel. Portable rechargable battery.

Sleeping bag.

Grease pencil. Waterproof matches. Maps.

Gas cans. Oil and fluids for your car. Have a real spare tire instead of a doughnut.
 

Nathan 88

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For those of you reading this thread and starting to get worried, relax none of these things are going to happen, at least in our lifetime.
The only thing that could bring us to that level would be an all at nuclear war and that is still unlikely at this time.
 

simon482

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You guys must not be seeing what's happening at all the ports and ship back ups.

It's not end of civilization but it's about to get real hard to get shit.
 

NotADcotor

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You guys must not be seeing what's happening at all the ports and ship back ups.
That's been going on for a while. Meanwhile, the old man went shopping today for food and the shelves were full.
There is an issue with computer chips but those purchases can be delayed, and some concern for things like Christmas shopping being delayed but going from what is happening with the ports to full on TEOTWAWKI is a bit either special needs or just taking the piss and trying to get a rise out of people.

I enjoy following prepper stuff but they use every little excuse to go "see it's coming" and they so far have been wrong every time. I used to collect gold bug books about the upcoming Great Depression some published in the 70s at used book stores. Actually pretty well thought out books more so than, a few ships outside of ports. All of them wrong. Except for Harry Browne who learned from his experiences and went to a Permanent Portfolio idea because he admits he can't tell the future, the rest kept at it. I suppose if they live long enough they are bound to be right some time but still.

But hey if you want to go 2 weeks, or even full Mormon and store a rotated 1 year supply of food, wouldn't hurt much, but current events isn't a good excuse doing so.
 

basketcase

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Grain will last 30 years if not forever. Beans and peas will last about 8. Most canned goods will last about 2 it seems.
Assuming you can keep the bugs out.

As mentioned before, potable water will be the more immediate issue
 
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