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Surprisingly, suicide has become rarer during the pandemic

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That's because suicidal people today cling to support groups like Qanon, covid deniers, anti-vax, and anti-lockdown to keep them going.
 

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squeezer

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OH NO, this is one of the denier's biggest play in their arsenal of bullshit and lies.
 

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I wonder if there's something to feeling that we're all in the same boat that may be at play. Depressed and suicidal might tend to feel that their problems are unique to them and something others can't appreciate their pain. I am generalizing obviously but I would think that would be part of it that covid is affecting us all to varying degrees so covid may not be affecting their desire to take their own life. It's the more personal individual struggles that I would guess drives someone to contemplate or even act on suicidal thoughts.
 
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That’s because they grouped people that committed suicide with those that died of COVID. Hospitals did it to make money. Fucking sheep. Learn to think critically and think for yourself.
 

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That’s because they grouped people that committed suicide with those that died of COVID. Hospitals did it to make money. Fucking sheep. Learn to think critically and think for yourself.
yes! it's the same fucking people who have been telling us for years that the Earth is round! Lying bastards!
 

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That’s because they grouped people that committed suicide with those that died of COVID. Hospitals did it to make money. Fucking sheep. Learn to think critically and think for yourself.
yes! it's the same fucking people who have been telling us for years that the Earth is round! Lying bastards!
Thank GOD, finally the truth!

I'm shopping for a car that can actually fly so I won't fall off the earth when I'm speeding down an open road.
 
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K Douglas

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Not sure how meaningful this is since they're looking at a small window of April 2020 to July 2020.
What I'd want to see if suicide rates for the following periods
March 2020-Feb 2021 compared to March 2019 to Feb 2020. Then compare it amongst different jurisdictions say Sweden (which didn't lockdown) vs. Republic of Ireland which did hard lockdowns. People couldn't be out more than 2 hours or 10 km away from home.
 

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Not sure how meaningful this is since they're looking at a small window of April 2020 to July 2020.
I giuess you didn't see or didn't want to see post 6.
 

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"“It’s hard to determine exactly why suicide death decrease during times of crisis like the COVID-19 pandemic, but we have seen this in other instances like the Spanish flu pandemic during the early 1900s,” Dr. Christine Yu Moutier, the chief medical officer of the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention, told Healthline."

 

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Hey Genius, did you at least read the summary by any chance?

Here you go, nice and slow, don't miss any words. I even bolded and highlighted something that should have light bulbs flashing in head and bells ringing in your ears!

Summary While history demonstrates the potential for COVID-19 ― and the resulting anticipated economic recession ― to impact suicide rates, an increase is not inevitable. 110 With close attention to the risks, the implementation of best practices in suicide prevention, and strong social protection, people in Canada can get through the pandemic without an additional loss of life to suicide. Recognizing that the impacts of COVID-19 will be long term, complex, and may take time to fully emerge, it will be essential to take the long view by advocating for the continued expansion of universal supports (such as the Wellness Together Canada portal and distress line), adequate funding to maintain and enhance mental health and substance use services, and amplified monitoring and research to better understand the dynamic impacts of the pandemic, now and in the future
 

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"Many assumed suicides would spike in 2020. So far, the data tells a different story

...Widespread assumptions that suicide rates would increase during the pandemic are not supported by the growing amount of evidence coming out of Canadian provinces and other jurisdictions around the world, say experts who study the topic.

"It's a good example of how sometimes the story we tell ourselves, we look for reasons to support it and we don't always use the data," said Tyler Black, a psychiatrist and suicide expert the University of British Columbia in Vancouver.

"When we look back at the numbers, it just doesn't pan out the way we thought."

Numerous public figures have claimed a link between public-health restrictions and increased suicide rates, without evidence to back it up. Some merely speculated about the potential early on in the pandemic, while others have made stronger claims more recently.


Ontario MPP Roman Baber was kicked out of the Progressive Conservative caucus in January after sending an open letter asserting public-health restrictions were "causing an avalanche of suicides," among other claims.

But Black pointed to recently released data out of Alberta, British Columbia and Saskatchewan that suggest suicide rates declined in 2020. He also noted coroners in Quebec and the chief medical examiner in Newfoundland and Labrador have recently said there were no increases in suicide rates in those provinces last year.

Data from Ontario and other provinces is still forthcoming. Black says counting suicide deaths always comes with some degree of uncertainty because investigations into both cause of death and a person's intentions can take a long time.

What the early data tells us
Still, Black said the data collected so far suggests the pandemic's arrival in 2020 didn't bring with it a surge in suicides.

"There might be small fluctuations because there are inquests and investigations ongoing," he said. "But they're likely not large enough to substantially change the results."

Alberta saw a particularly noticeable decline, according to preliminary data compiled by the province in late January that counted 468 deaths by suicide in 2020.

That compares to more than 600 in each of the previous four years."

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K Douglas

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I giuess you didn't see or didn't want to see post 6.
No I didn't see post 6 thanks for bringing that to my attention. Interesting data points
1. The number of heart disease deaths increased by 5% year over year.
2. The number of unintentional injury deaths increased by 11%.
3. The number of stroke deaths increased by 6%
4. The number of diabetes deaths increased by a whopping 15%. Despite it not being more than a 3% increase in either of the previous 4 years. I'd call that a major outlier.

Bottom line. Lockdowns probably had a major hand in the spikes in the 1st 3 causes of death. Stress and anxiety is a major inducer of heart attacks and strokes. And of course the #1 cause of unintentional deaths are drug overdoses.