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If they did their income tax then they should be entitled to Cerb.


Amnesty International is one of 125 human rights organizations calling on the government to provide emergency income supports to sex workers.

During the pandemic, sex workers have been faced with the same hurdles as millions of other Canadians forced to stop working — no job and no income, but all the same bills to pay.

Where others can get emergency funding through CERB (the Canada Emergency Response Benefit), sex workers, for the most part, cannot. This is viewed by some as the latest indicator that those engaged in the industry need the same job protections and security as everyone else in the work force.

Advocates say it’s time for the government to decriminalize all aspects of sex work.

In 2014, selling sex was made illegal in Canada, a change that made everything worse for the very people it was supposed to protect.

“We’re finding the pandemic is really putting a microscope on issues of human rights and inequity,” said Jackie Hansen of Amnesty International Canada. “This is one of the most marginalized groups in Canada, even before the pandemic. Criminalization doesn’t work. It pushes sex workers into the shadows. You have no protections and bad things happen.

“These laws have further put sex workers in danger.”

Decriminalization of sex work is the eventual goal and the immediate goal, according to advocates, is desperately needed financial relief.

“Sex workers complied with social distancing like everyone else,” said Hansen. “They don’t want to get sick and they don’t want to make their families sick. Most stopped working. But most can’t get any government support, and they still need to pay for food, rent, medications, kids’ expenses … There is some limited and very restricted government support, like grocery cards.

“They need access to the same supports as other people.”

To add insult to injury, added Hansen, “They continue to enforce sex work laws if you do work. So where does that leave some people? You can’t work and you’ve lost all income, but there are no supports for you. If you do work, the laws on the books are being enforced during a pandemic.”

Hansen explained that various organizations across the country helping sex workers could distribute government funds to ensure people can pay their bills.

“They know who is struggling. And they know how to get funds to these people, while protecting safety and anonymity. That’s their job. It’s totally possible,” she said.

“But we keep hearing, ‘No.’ So the message is, the rights of some people are more important than others.”

A spokesman for Carla Qualtrough, Minister of Employment and Workforce Development, offered a generic statement that read in part, “We understand that the impacts of COVID-19 are being felt disproportionately by women. This crisis has also further exposed and exacerbated the underlying vulnerabilities for the most marginalized in our society.”

The statement noted that those applying for CERB need not state their occupation but do need to meet all eligibility requirements.

“Our priority is to make sure all Canadians, including vulnerable Canadians, have the support they need, and we will continue working with our partners across the country to do so,” the statement said.

 

explorerzip

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I agree that if people are paying their fair share of income taxes then they should be entitled to government programs like CERB because it is fair. However, if people are evading taxes then they should get nothing. That is also fair.

Self-employed people including sex workers have to prepare for irregular income. Everyone (not just the self-employed) always need to have money set aside and watch their spending like a hawk.
 

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I agree that if people are paying their fair share of income taxes then they should be entitled to government programs like CERB because it is fair. However, if people are evading taxes then they should get nothing. That is also fair.

Self-employed people including sex workers have to prepare for irregular income. Everyone (not just the self-employed) always need to have money set aside and watch their spending like a hawk.
If a sex worker claimed an income of $5,000 in 2019, they would've been eligible for CERB. You can't really expect tax paying citizens to cover your ass when you're running a cash business and avoiding taxes. You can't have it both ways.
 
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This board is always accusing sex workers of cheating the government. Why don’t you all show your taxes?? ?‍♀

and mind your own business, there is no need to encourage this kind of behaviour, always putting sex workers on the defensive as if we are obligated to show you our taxes

now I’ll probably get banned .. long hair don’t care ?
 
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This board is always accusing sex workers of cheating the government. Why don’t you all show your taxes?? ?‍♀

and mind your own business, there is no need to encourage this kind of behaviour, always putting sex workers on the defensive as if we are obligated to show you our taxes

now I’ll probably get banned .. long hair don’t care ?
All I said was that if you can show you made $5K last year then you'd be eligible for CERB. If not, too bad. Besides, who said anything about showing your taxes. This thread is about sex workers left without income support. I did my 2019 taxes and got $3.5K back. Thank you very much!
 

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I know of a sex worker who claims she made 70K last year and 85 K the year before, nothing declared and is on social assistance. She is fuming because she cannot get or even apply for CERB. Her overhead, room and board and meals are covered by the government but COVID-19 has cut into her freelance income.
 

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I know of a sex worker who claims she made 70K last year and 85 K the year before, nothing declared and is on social assistance. She is fuming because she cannot get or even apply for CERB. Her overhead, room and board and meals are covered by the government but COVID-19 has cut into her freelance income.
First world problem... :rolleyes:
 

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Why you guys always in sexworker pockets?
Why?

Do we come on board talking about all you all income, or where you get it from?

lots of you are on welfare, scamming.

Why do you always perpetuate and tell bullshit stories about so and so told you in confidence?

?
 

explorerzip

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This board is always accusing sex workers of cheating the government. Why don’t you all show your taxes?? ?‍♀

and mind your own business, there is no need to encourage this kind of behaviour, always putting sex workers on the defensive as if we are obligated to show you our taxes

now I’ll probably get banned .. long hair don’t care ?
It should be obvious that many here were speaking in general terms. Regardless if you're a sex worker, CEO, self-employed or a plain old employee, if you're committing tax evasion by under reporting income, inflating expenses, falsifying financial statements, etc. then you should not be entitled to government programs.
 

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It should be obvious that many here were speaking in general terms. Regardless if you're a sex worker, CEO, self-employed or a plain old employee, if you're committing tax evasion by under reporting income, inflating expenses, falsifying financial statements, etc. then you should not be entitled to government programs.
My point ITS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS EITHER WAY - zero
 

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My point ITS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS EITHER WAY - zero
What isn't my business? What I said is not controversial yet you decided to make it so. Nobody here said that all sex workers are cheating the government. It is undeniable that there are people that do it and it's not isolated to sex workers. Even the sex worker here understands that.

We have no way to check if lomotil's account is true, but the principle still applies. If you choose to not declare income while on social assistance thereby committing tax evasion then you should be ineligible for more government help. I see nothing wrong in calling out illegal activity even if it is a second hand account.
 

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You or anyone else purchasing sex calling out an alleged illegal activity against SPs is a huge irony on a board that promotes illegal activities ?
 

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What’s your name and address ? Your real identity pls so I can call you out, you know make sure you not doing anything criminal. Pffft
 

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You or anyone else purchasing sex calling out an alleged illegal activity against SPs is a huge irony on a board that promotes illegal activities ?
so some SP was making 70k cash a year and at the same time was on welfare for which, if I may add, many of us paid via taxes.
Now that SP cannot claim CERB and we are not allowed to discuss it because it is too ironic to talk about?
 

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What’s your name and address ? Your real identity pls so I can call you out, you know make sure you not doing anything criminal. Pffft
I was calling out the alleged activity on face value alone. I don''t need a name or address to do that.
 
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so some SP was making 70k cash a year and at the same time was on welfare for which, if I may add, many of us paid via taxes.
Now that SP cannot claim CERB and we are not allowed to discuss it because it is too ironic to talk about?
Sure let’s talk about it after you post your taxes. Let’s make sure you are not a crook first.

Why do you care what she can claim?

Again why are you in her pocket?

or why do don’t you just give her the $2000?

is she on board ? If not is it fair to discuss someone’s financial situation on this board, when they can’t defend themselves? Even if she is on board maybe she doesn’t wish to debate her finances on this board full of creeps and pimps.

what if she bullshitted you? ?

I do that sometimes, tell different stories to different ppl so when they blab I know exactly who it was.

BIG UP TO THE SP ?
 

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Sure let’s talk about it after you post your taxes. Let’s make sure you are not a crook first.

Why do you care what she can claim?

Again why are you in her pocket?

or why do don’t you just give her the $2000?

is she on board ? If not is it fair to discuss someone’s financial situation on this board, when they can’t defend themselves? Even if she is on board maybe she doesn’t wish to debate her finances on this board full of creeps and pimps.

what if she bullshitted you? ?

I do that sometimes, tell different stories to different ppl so when they blab I know exactly who it was.

BIG UP TO THE SP ?
We're not talking about someone's specific financial situation. We're talking about if sex workers should be entitled to Cerb. Let me say this again: anyone including sex workers should be eligible for CERB provided that they meet the requirements. You have yet to argue for or against that statement because you're too busy trying to silence people for things that they did not even say here.

Lomotil's post could be a total fiction, but it's still fair to argue if a person in that position should or should be eligible or not for CERB. Taken at face value, a person (even a fictitious one) that does not report income or inflates expenses is committing tax evasion. Being a sex worker does not change this. Such a person should not be eligible for CERB or any government benefit especially if they are also on social assistance. Those factors taken together are indefensible and illegal even if scenario is totally fictitious.
 
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If a person is on social assistance how can they be eligible for CERB? The CRA would just deny them their claim.
 
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