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Of course parts of the left are violent.
The question is what role violence plays in the ideology and how often it is deployed to those ends.

It will be interesting to see how that trial plays out.
(The article you posted uses Andy Ngo as a source, so should be taken with many grains of salt.)
 
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Gooseifur

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Of course parts of the left are violent.
The question is what role violence plays in the ideology and how often it is deployed to those ends.

It will be interesting to see how that trial plays out.
(The article you posted uses Andy Ngo as a source, so should be taken with many grains of salt.)
True, But the story is real. They were arrested and charged with felonies. The right has more instances of violence but people on this board say the left never commits violent acts.
 

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True, But the story is real. They were arrested and charged with felonies. The right has more instances of violence but people on this board say the left never commits violent acts.
Most of the violence on the far-left or Antifa was attacks on infrastructure, buildings, railroads, pipelines and etc. While the far-right tends more attacks on people, for example the Buffalo supermarket killings.

Dept. of Homeland Security - "Violent white supremacy was the most persistent and lethal threat in the homeland, and white supremacist were the most deadly among domestic terrorist in recent years."
 

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True, But the story is real. They were arrested and charged with felonies. The right has more instances of violence but people on this board say the left never commits violent acts.
No, we just say the right wing is way more violent.
There are no left wing militias, for instance, like the Oath Keepers or Proud Boys.
 

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True, But the story is real. They were arrested and charged with felonies. The right has more instances of violence but people on this board say the left never commits violent acts.
Well… first off… you are thinking about “right” and “left” incorrectly. They are simply abstract concepts. Unless you join a political party, which is a small percentage of the population, people don’t belong to the right or left. It simply does not exist.

You are no more responsible for the actions of a militia in Ohio, than I am for protesters at a Stop Police Brutality rally.

We are only individuals.

People get confused and try lumping everyone into the same pot. I myself certainly lean progressive… gay rights… a woman’s right to an abortion… sensible gun control (while acknowledging people have a right to defend their family and homes).

But I also want balanced budgets, don’t like gov’t over reach, and am concerned about the deficit.

Besides, I doubt most BLM protesters are really “left”. Not liking the “right” does not make one left. Lol. I bet there are more people who fail to define a Conservative vs Liberal then are people who understand the terms. An uneducated person, angry at police for beating and murder of people at traffic stops is not one thing or the other. It becomes apolitical. One issue does not make a person left or right.

I remember when we all just hated the “government”…. Those were the days.
 

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Gooseifur

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So, if they committed the crime let them do the time. Do you hear anyone considered on the left saying any different?
No but not one MSM network covered it yet they covered the arrests in Idaho where nothing happened.
 

Gooseifur

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Most of the violence on the far-left or Antifa was attacks on infrastructure, buildings, railroads, pipelines and etc. While the far-right tends more attacks on people, for example the Buffalo supermarket killings.

Dept. of Homeland Security - "Violent white supremacy was the most persistent and lethal threat in the homeland, and white supremacist were the most deadly among domestic terrorist in recent years."
I agree for the most part except Antifa attacks other protesters on a regular basis, Perfect example here.
 

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Well… first off… you are thinking about “right” and “left” incorrectly. They are simply abstract concepts. Unless you join a political party, which is a small percentage of the population, people don’t belong to the right or left. It simply does not exist.

You are no more responsible for the actions of a militia in Ohio, than I am for protesters at a Stop Police Brutality rally.

We are only individuals.

People get confused and try lumping everyone into the same pot. I myself certainly lean progressive… gay rights… a woman’s right to an abortion… sensible gun control (while acknowledging people have a right to defend their family and homes).

But I also want balanced budgets, don’t like gov’t over reach, and am concerned about the deficit.

Besides, I doubt most BLM protesters are really “left”. Not liking the “right” does not make one left. Lol. I bet there are more people who fail to define a Conservative vs Liberal then are people who understand the terms. An uneducated person, angry at police for beating and murder of people at traffic stops is not one thing or the other. It becomes apolitical. One issue does not make a person left or right.

I remember when we all just hated the “government”…. Those were the days.
I'm similar in a sense, I am more progressive on social issues such as abortion and gay rights but conservative on financial issues and security
 
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Your "fine guys" are the very "Pissful" oops "Peaceful patriots and tourists" according to the Fox News and other right wing outlets:
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I never said that. I think the right is more violent, but the left is violent as well to a lesser degree but you guys won't admit it
 

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I agree for the most part except Antifa attacks other protesters on a regular basis, Perfect example here.
Antifa protests white supremacists and fascists, which is why they are called 'anti fascists' or antifa.

Do you have a problem with people protesting white supremacists?
 
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