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Russia will invade and occupy Ukraine before the end of February. China will invade and occupy Taiwan right after the Olympics.

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Gstep

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Title says it all. Any bets?
No and no.
It'll be a few more months before Russia moves they're not ready yet and they're only going into the eastern Russian dominated areas of Ukraine. China is not ready for a full scale amphibious landing yet, timeliness more likely for 2025-26 if diplomatic efforts to reunite fail before then but they'll at least attempt more dialog towards that first.
 

mandrill

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No and no.
It'll be a few more months before Russia moves they're not ready yet and they're only going into the eastern Russian dominated areas of Ukraine. China is not ready for a full scale amphibious landing yet, timeliness more likely for 2025-26 if diplomatic efforts to reunite fail before then but they'll at least attempt more dialog towards that first.
OK, they already have the Eastern Russian-dominated regions of Ukraine as a proxy mini-client state - Lugansk and Donetsk. Once you go further into Ukraine, you're entering non Russian-sympathizing areas.

I agree with your take on Taiwan, based on shitty "military analysis" videos that I have seen.
 

Gstep

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OK, they already have the Eastern Russian-dominated regions of Ukraine as a proxy mini-client state - Lugansk and Donetsk. Once you go further into Ukraine, you're entering non Russian-sympathizing areas.
Which is why it won't be a big jump for them to offically occupy and annex it like Crimea. Suppose Putin is weighing the pros and cons of doing that. But the further west they go the more likely they'll get bogged down in guerrilla warfare. The buildup is large but its not close to being overwhelming enough to take Ukraine quickly. Not sure Putin would want to risk looking weak with a prolonged campaign.
 

Valcazar

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As I said: look it up. I can go and dig out the exact clip and what difference will it make? You'll either try to spin it out or claim that it has been manipulated. Joe's statement on limited incursion is a matter of the public record. The rest is up to you.
Since it is basically impossible to find just a clip of that section that isn't embedded in an opinion piece of some kind, here is the transcript.



And so, I think what you’re going to see is that Russia will be held accountable if it invades. And it depends on what it does. It’s one thing if it’s a minor incursion and then we end up having a fight about what to do and not do, et cetera.

But if they actually do what they’re capable of doing with the forces amassed on the border, it is going to be a disaster for Russia if they further ingra- — invade Ukraine, and that our allies and partners are ready to impose severe costs and significant harm on Russia and the Russian economy.
Yup, his statement is on the record, and it isn't what you're saying it is.
 

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bigdickdean

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You don't know half of it. Denmark is amassing an invasion force in Greenland to take the Canadian arctic, before USA moves in. I believe USA and Denmark has come to an agreement of Peace in our time.

Thank you Neville Chamberlain.
 
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