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Republican Senator Warns About Impeachment Of Past Democratic Presidents

Valcazar

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LOL! Bubba actually broke the law.
Which is irrelevant to impeachment, as you know.
But there is a reason his popularity went up during that - it was obviously a weaponized tactic.

And that's the thing. Weaponizing it is going to be only partially successful because people push back.
Yes, it is is possible the GOP propaganda machine is much more powerful now since Fox news was just a fledgling back then.
Benghazi *did* work to lower Clinton's favorablity ratings.

But there is absolutely nothing stopping the GOP from doing all that already.
Remember these are people who blame the Supreme Court situation on how the Democrats "weaponized" the Court nomination process with Bork.
The idea that Trump's impeachments are going to result in the GOP "weaponizing impeachment" is silly because they are going to do it anyway.

So the Democrats may as well do the right thing.

This impeachment was already the most bipartisan ever. That some of the GOP senators are now going to turn around and try to dodge this on "procedural grounds" is just what one expects from them.
 

jcpro

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Which is irrelevant to impeachment, as you know.
But there is a reason his popularity went up during that - it was obviously a weaponized tactic.

And that's the thing. Weaponizing it is going to be only partially successful because people push back.
Yes, it is is possible the GOP propaganda machine is much more powerful now since Fox news was just a fledgling back then.
Benghazi *did* work to lower Clinton's favorablity ratings.

But there is absolutely nothing stopping the GOP from doing all that already.
Remember these are people who blame the Supreme Court situation on how the Democrats "weaponized" the Court nomination process with Bork.
The idea that Trump's impeachments are going to result in the GOP "weaponizing impeachment" is silly because they are going to do it anyway.

So the Democrats may as well do the right thing.

This impeachment was already the most bipartisan ever. That some of the GOP senators are now going to turn around and try to dodge this on "procedural grounds" is just what one expects from them.
This impeachment is wholly unconstitutional.
A) Can't use impeachment to prosecute a private citizen because the objective is to remove the president from his office. Trump is out of office, therefore cannot be removed.
B) The Constitution clearly states that the Chief Justice must preside over president's impeachment(the trial in the Senate). Justice Roberts already said NO
C) a senator cannot preside and be a juror at the same time.
 

Leimonis

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This impeachment is wholly unconstitutional.
A) Can't use impeachment to prosecute a private citizen because the objective is to remove the president from his office. Trump is out of office, therefore cannot be removed.
B) The Constitution clearly states that the Chief Justice must preside over president's impeachment(the trial in the Senate). Justice Roberts already said NO
C) a senator cannot preside and be a juror at the same time.
my heart goes out to President Trump! Life is so unfair to him!
 
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jcpro

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my heart goes out to President Trump! Life is so unfair to him!
Oh, so breaking the law is a ok in the pursuit of Trump? Interesting.
 

Leimonis

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Oh, so breaking the law is a ok in the pursuit of Trump? Interesting.
Have the dems sent an angry mob fed with lies to find Trump and deal with him? What a bunch of law breakers!
 
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jcpro

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mandrill

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Actually, regardless of this, both parties should now worry as impeachment has now been weaponised. It was a very big deal before Pelosi decided to use it, now it's just another tool in the partisan toolbox. I can easily see, if Republicans regain Congress, and it is possible looking at Biden's direction, I can see Biden's or Harris' impeachment in the future. For no other reason, but to just get even. Remember Harry Reid, people!
I agree. Totally cheapened. They're even impeaching presidents who incite a seditious mob to storm their own legislature, overthrow the government and kill the lawmakers now! Whatever next?!..... Impeaching presidents who nuke parts of their own country or assassinate their rivals?!?!?!
 

mandrill

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This impeachment is wholly unconstitutional.
A) Can't use impeachment to prosecute a private citizen because the objective is to remove the president from his office. Trump is out of office, therefore cannot be removed.
B) The Constitution clearly states that the Chief Justice must preside over president's impeachment(the trial in the Senate). Justice Roberts already said NO
C) a senator cannot preside and be a juror at the same time.

170 legal scholars don't agree with you, JC.

But you know more about US constitutional law than all of those guys, right? Tell us about Hitler again....
 
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Frankfooter

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This impeachment is wholly unconstitutional.
A) Can't use impeachment to prosecute a private citizen because the objective is to remove the president from his office. Trump is out of office, therefore cannot be removed.
B) The Constitution clearly states that the Chief Justice must preside over president's impeachment(the trial in the Senate). Justice Roberts already said NO
C) a senator cannot preside and be a juror at the same time.
He was president when the house voted to impeach him, its just up to the senate to finish the job.
Blame Mitch for refusing to act in a timely manner.
 
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kherg007

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Look at the charges.
Andrew Johnson refused to protect newly freed slaves in defiance of congress.
Nixon tried to use the power of the govt to spy on, and attack/destroy/ political opponents and then obstruct and cover up crimes.
Clinton lied about a bj to a grand jury.
Trump used the power of the govt to attack his political opponent. This was against the law.
Trump interfered with an election through intimidating election officials and inciting an insurrection against the govt of the usa. Also against the law.

Except for Johnson, all were impeached for violations of law. IMHO the worst is Trump 2, followed by Nixon, Trump 1, Clinton, Johnson. I say worse because it an overt effort to change the USA system of govt.

Trump has plenty of other laws he is alleged to have broken (individual 1, anyone?) But has yet to be charged.
 

dirtydaveiii

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Actually, regardless of this, both parties should now worry as impeachment has now been weaponised. It was a very big deal before Pelosi decided to use it, now it's just another tool in the partisan toolbox. I can easily see, if Republicans regain Congress, and it is possible looking at Biden's direction, I can see Biden's or Harris' impeachment in the future. For no other reason, but to just get even. Remember Harry Reid, people!
Some fucking idiot replusican senator said she wants to impeach Biden but she wasnt yet sure for what
 

wigglee

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It was weaponized against Clinton. They announced before the 2016 election that they intended to impeach Clinton right away.
That horse bolted ages ago.

There's a strong argument that it should be used more anyway. The Founders certainly thought it would be if you read their writing.
It is *incredibly* hard to actually remove a President via impeachment, but other than it pisses people off, there is no reason the House can't keep impeaching people all day long.
It will find a natural equilibrium.
GWBush should have been impeached for lying about WMD's. Trump should have been impeached about 10 times, but twice will have to do. Clinton's impeachment was bullshit . A blowjob has nothing to do with government corruption or national security. Nixon deserved it but at least had the decency to resign, so we give him a pass. The Repuglicans are so corrupt that they will probably try to impeach every Dem President for the forseeable future ( I mean what has Biden done in 1 week to warrant impeachment)? Repugs are a joke.
 
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jcpro

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GWBush should have been impeached for lying about WMD's. Trump should have been impeached about 10 times, but twice will have to do. Clinton's impeachment was bullshit . A blowjob has nothing to do with government corruption or national security. Nixon deserved it but at least had the decency to resign, so we give him a pass. The Repuglicans are so corrupt that they will probably try to impeach every Dem President for the forseeable future ( I mean what has Biden done in 1 week to warrant impeachment)? Repugs are a joke.
LOL! Bubba was not impeached for a blow job. I guess the joke's on you.
 

shack

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LOL! Bubba was not impeached for a blow job. I guess the joke's on you.
Whatever it was did not threaten the democracy. Some people just have their priorities screwed up.
 
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jcpro

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Whatever it was did not threaten the democracy. Some people just have their priorities screwed up.
Right, because catching Bubba obstructing justice, on a few occasions, was not a threat to democracy. Just accusing Trump of the same put the Republic on the edge of destruction. Impeach. Oh, sorry. That's not what the first impeachment was about. ROTFLMFAO!!!
 

Insidious Von

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The GOP are terrified of The Blessed One's disciples, they have begun defending him. That's disturbing, sedition cannot go unpunished, it will pave the way to a Stephen Miller dictatorship.

Maybe the GOP should get together and brainstorm. Where's Marco Rubio?

 

shack

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Right, because catching Bubba obstructing justice, on a few occasions, was not a threat to democracy.
A married guy lying about a BJ is not a threat to democracy.

Consorting with the Russians to influence an election through social media lies from fake accounts, trying to strongarm election officials to change results and steal the election, and inciting a mob to violently overthrow the Capito to disrupt a count of the Electoral College votes and potentially hang Mike Pence are all threats to democracy. They are directly involved with the actual elections, which is the basis of democracy.

The fact that you try to draw equivalency is truly ridiculous. No rational person could have a thought process that screwed up.

As I said, you reap what you sow.
 
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