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peachkitten44

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May 30, 2021
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Guilty as charged lol always spend more in shoppers than I plan 🤷🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️. My concern with any kind of up front token is that it can easily be a deterrent since it isn’t a standard across the industry.
I’m really disappointed to hear some of the shenanigans that have happened—what happened to plain old honesty? I’m thinking I’d prefer to go back to my more hands on personal touch way of doing things because technology can be so cold and temperamental. One of us will answer the phone, to get a sense of who’s calling and maybe in the first week or two we’ll see either someone one of us has met or someone who is vouched for by a mutual acquaintance? And in my humble experience, this forum’s members have always been fantastic — so maybe we’ll offer two for one appointments for members? Just some ideas that we have been discussing.

Location!! Downtown is clearly not the hun it once was, do gents still prefer that location to others? Other preferences? We are building from the bottom up and the sky’s the limit ;)
 

peterxxx

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Sep 22, 2015
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Guilty as charged lol always spend more in shoppers than I plan 🤷🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️. My concern with any kind of up front token is that it can easily be a deterrent since it isn’t a standard across the industry.
I’m really disappointed to hear some of the shenanigans that have happened—what happened to plain old honesty? I’m thinking I’d prefer to go back to my more hands on personal touch way of doing things because technology can be so cold and temperamental. One of us will answer the phone, to get a sense of who’s calling and maybe in the first week or two we’ll see either someone one of us has met or someone who is vouched for by a mutual acquaintance? And in my humble experience, this forum’s members have always been fantastic — so maybe we’ll offer two for one appointments for members? Just some ideas that we have been discussing.

Location!! Downtown is clearly not the hun it once was, do gents still prefer that location to others? Other preferences? We are building from the bottom up and the sky’s the limit ;)
Miss K 🥰🥰 do i miss her 😜
 
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YellowFeverr

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Jun 14, 2019
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Call a central number, book a time with whoever it is you want to see and get an address was the was Pink Kitty and others operated. Easy as pie. Though I imagine the booking would now be done electronically. Also, you ladies might want to (in my opinion SHOULD, but it aint my business) only accept bookings if you are sent a low untraceable deposit, like a giftcard, to ensure that the fakebooking squad doesnt try to ruin you. There have been documented and organized fakebooking attacks, remember the lady from Montreal this year, fakebookers wont be willing to pay you 20 bucks in giftcards. I dunno, does Shoppers offer giftcards, women always can use something from there. Good luck, I hope you're able to set something up.

yeah I've heard something like this a few times from touring girls from outside agencies. Ottawa is a fakebooking fest. They say there is as much as 5-6 times the amount of fake bookers in Ottawa than Montreal/Toronto combined which makes no sense. Make Ottawa great again! The Ottawa scene is so dead I set myself the goal of saving all my money and make a trip to Toronto or Montreal and go on a spending spree there.
 

MarianneC

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Jan 8, 2022
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Not to cast aspersions on PK44's plans, I'm sure she will probably do a lot better job than previous agencies, but back in my day, I definitely had my worst experiences when working at the agencies. I won't name the agencies that I worked for, but the business ethics of the agency owners were scummy. I felt more secure working as an independent than working for any agency. I would have thought that these agencies screen the clients properly, and don't send you to potentially dangerous clients, but it didn't look like they did any sort of due diligence, the only thing that mattered was the money for them. The fact that I could do a better job of screening clients for myself as an indy than these agencies could with their own management staff who only had this one job to do, is a scathing indictment for them. I'm glad those agencies are no longer around.
 

peachkitten44

✗ღMiSS KATHRYN✗ღ
May 30, 2021
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Ottawa
Not to cast aspersions on PK44's plans, I'm sure she will probably do a lot better job than previous agencies, but back in my day, I definitely had my worst experiences when working at the agencies. I won't name the agencies that I worked for, but the business ethics of the agency owners were scummy. I felt more secure working as an independent than working for any agency. I would have thought that these agencies screen the clients properly, and don't send you to potentially dangerous clients, but it didn't look like they did any sort of due diligence, the only thing that mattered was the money for them. The fact that I could do a better job of screening clients for myself as an indy than these agencies could with their own management staff who only had this one job to do, is a scathing indictment for them. I'm glad those agencies are no longer around.
I’m part of the reason why some of those agencies are no longer around. It’s highway robbery the fees agencies charge and then they do nothing to keep their girls safe. I can tell you that my girls were always my first priority and I asked them for a flat rate house fee and ONLY if they made money. I absorbed the costs of photos, ads, transportation, supplies, location and security. I worked WITH my girls, so it wasn’t the same as if I was just bossing them about. Recently I’ve learned that several agencies are taking FIFTY per cent from their girls and I just can’t sit idly by because that’s not right.
 

Aioli

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Dec 1, 2021
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I’m part of the reason why some of those agencies are no longer around. It’s highway robbery the fees agencies charge and then they do nothing to keep their girls safe. I can tell you that my girls were always my first priority and I asked them for a flat rate house fee and ONLY if they made money. I absorbed the costs of photos, ads, transportation, supplies, location and security. I worked WITH my girls, so it wasn’t the same as if I was just bossing them about. Recently I’ve learned that several agencies are taking FIFTY per cent from their girls and I just can’t sit idly by because that’s not right.
How does Montreal do it so greatly, then? Toronto is too far so I have no idea what the scene is like there but I regularly travel to Montreal. So many gorgeous women in the $240-$260 range with all services in a nice condo/apartment. Maybe talk to management in Montreal to gain some insight into their model/style? PK, I wish you all the best of luck in the world. :cool:
 
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MarianneC

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Jan 8, 2022
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I’m part of the reason why some of those agencies are no longer around. It’s highway robbery the fees agencies charge and then they do nothing to keep their girls safe. I can tell you that my girls were always my first priority and I asked them for a flat rate house fee and ONLY if they made money. I absorbed the costs of photos, ads, transportation, supplies, location and security. I worked WITH my girls, so it wasn’t the same as if I was just bossing them about. Recently I’ve learned that several agencies are taking FIFTY per cent from their girls and I just can’t sit idly by because that’s not right.
I hope you succeed, I really do. However, I think girls really feel secure inside a spa, which has several other girls working beside you. Maybe this is only a perception, but it's hard to shake. If you can make your girls feel safe when working for you, then you might have a winning formula. Sure, reducing house fees and stuff help attract girls, but I'm not sure if it will help in retaining girls.
 
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Location!! Downtown is clearly not the hun it once was, do gents still prefer that location to others? Other preferences? We are building from the bottom up and the sky’s the limit ;)
Parking is a problem downtown, always. Positioning them either in the east or west-end will give you a lot of local clientele, but you'll likely miss out on the clientele from the other end of town. Perhaps a compromise position like central but not downtown, such as the area around south Bank St. Ideally you'd have locations everywhere, north, south, east and west, but you gotta start at one location only, obviously.
 

Amber Glory

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Apr 16, 2019
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Hello…
Miss K here, formerly of Guilty Pleasures. A couple of my girlfriends and I were talking about getting the agency together again because they don’t want to pay such outrageous fees but it’s more fun and safer to stick together. We’re totally open to ideas, comments, suggestions? Let me know what your ideal agency experience is, we want to make it happen!
Xo
Kathryn
Big, big thing to do is not be discriminatory about who you hire in regards to body shape/race/etc. That's a huge mistake other agencies made, where they believed you have to look a certain way to appeal to the market, without realizing that men love variety!

Also, please make sure the #1 priority is the provider's safety - Pink Kitty put our safety last on their priority and I'd hate for any new girls to ever experience what myself and others did at times because they cared more about the clients.
 

MarianneC

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Jan 8, 2022
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Big, big thing to do is not be discriminatory about who you hire in regards to body shape/race/etc. That's a huge mistake other agencies made, where they believed you have to look a certain way to appeal to the market, without realizing that men love variety!

Also, please make sure the #1 priority is the provider's safety - Pink Kitty put our safety last on their priority and I'd hate for any new girls to ever experience what myself and others did at times because they cared more about the clients.
Exactly! Guys are into all kinds of body shapes and sizes, they just like women in general, that's why they're guys. 😉

Safety is a selling point. Sure, reducing agency fees is a selling point too, but this is something that's easy to counter. Your competitors can easily reduce their agency fees to match yours. And of course, nothing beats just going independent and not having any agency fees whatsoever. But having a reputation for safety for the girls is something that can't be bought, it's either there or it's not. Even independents can be swayed to come to you if you have a reputation for safety.
 

DirtyMiind

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Jan 24, 2019
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Hello…
Miss K here, formerly of Guilty Pleasures. A couple of my girlfriends and I were talking about getting the agency together again because they don’t want to pay such outrageous fees but it’s more fun and safer to stick together. We’re totally open to ideas, comments, suggestions? Let me know what your ideal agency experience is, we want to make it happen!
Xo
Kathryn
1) Membership with perks. A lot of TO agencies have that, or at least had, when I was hobbying there. End of year contests and such.
2) Multiple locations ideally (eventually) - and please move the ladies around lol. Nothing was worse in TO than wanting to see a lady that was always at the location across town.
3) Girls of all types - variety is key, for me at least
4) A way to clearly communicate a lady's openness - also usually done in TO agencies, at least when you get to know the bookers and such.
5) Easy parking and if private residence, no concierge if possible.
6) Texting option once verified/a member
7) A pleasant booker makes all the difference sometimes.
 

elkober

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Sep 23, 2018
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Who remembers agencies, like Pink Kitty, Guilty Pleasures, and Mirage? Are there any agencies currently operating in Ottawa at all?
Kudos to Flip for staring this thread and congrats to.posters here for keeping it real, informative and thought provoking. I keep returning to this thread for updates and more insightful input and am not disappointed. I’m also very pleased that the dialogue has remained respectful and to the point. Also a very special thanks to provider input such as from Amber.
 
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