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Regina paying climate crisis skeptic $10K to speak at 'sustainability' conference

U of R scientist 'dismayed' by city's decision to have Patrick Moore speak at conference

CBC News·Posted: Feb 01, 2020 10:30 AM CT | Last Updated: February 1

A former Greenpeace employee who has spoken out in opposition to environmental science has the top billing at the City of Regina's upcoming conference on future sustainability.

The Reimagine Conference 2020: Roadmap to Sustainable Cities will run May 20-21 with keynote speaker Patrick Moore kicking off the event Wednesday morning.

Moore was one of the early figures in the Greenpeace movement, serving as Canadian president for nine years and as a director of Greenpeace International for six before parting ways with the organization in the mid-1980s.

He is now criticized by environmental groups — including Greenpeace — or his views, particularly questioning the link between carbon emissions and climate change.

In March 2019, Moore was interviewed on Fox and Friend and said, "the whole climate crisis is not only fake news, it's fake science." Moore's Twitter bio says "CelebrateCO2!"

Some environmental advocates and city residents spoke out on Twitter soon after Moore's appearance was announced.

Simon [email protected]_enoch

Why is @CityofRegina and @MayorFougere inviting a known climate change denier to keynote its Renewable Cities conference? Talk about bad faith. https://www.desmogblog.com/patrick-moore

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Does the city know he’s anti-science? this is really embarrassing.

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Moore undermines city's sustainability agenda: scientist

Britt Hall, a biology professor at the University of Regina, said she's "dismayed" the city picked Moore to speak at the conference.

She said it's a decision that goes against the city's stated agenda that sustainability and climate change are important issues.

"It just makes me feel like, again, the politicians in this city and Saskatchewan just don't get it," she said. "They just don't understand that climate change is an important thing to take seriously."

The city said Moore will be paid $10,000, plus expenses, to speak at the conference, double what the next-highest speaker is receiving.

Science is a fact-driven situation ... you either accept it or you don't.- Britt Hall, University of Regina biology professor

"One of the things that we're aware of is that he would probably create some interest ... and he has — you're here today," said Mike O'Donnell, a city councillor who helped pick the speakers for the event. "Two, he has an interesting background."

Guests will be required to pay $300 to attend the event, according to its website. O'Donnell said that will help the city recover the costs for the event.

Moore told CBC Saskatchewan he's not a climate change denier — "I know that the climate changes" — but said "alarmists" are trying to force a link between carbon dioxide, extreme weather events and increasing temperatures.

"I'm going to give a pretty complete presentation of the long history of climate on this Earth and then I'm going to talk about energy choices because the biggest expense of this, basically, climate emergency hoax ... is not the climate research," Moore said.

"The biggest expense is basically revamping our entire energy system with much more expensive, less efficient technology than we have at the present time."

Hall said the city should "talk the talk" and "walk the walk" if it's going to take sustainability seriously.

"I do not agree that when we are talking about science we have to give a voice to those that don't accept the science," she said. "Science is a fact-driven situation ... you either accept it or you don't. And if you are a scientist there is a very very, very good chance you will accept the data showing that humans cause climate change."

With files from Alex Soloducha and Bryan Eneas.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/climate-skeptic-speak-at-sustainability-conference-regina-1.5448458
 

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Former Greenpeace employee, gotta love the CBC the bastion of truth and accuracy in reporting. Patrick Moore is a founding member and past President of Greenpeace. He left the organization because it morphed into political extremism.
 

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Former Greenpeace employee, gotta love the CBC the bastion of truth and accuracy in reporting. Patrick Moore is a founding member and past President of Greenpeace. He left the organization because it morphed into political extremism.
Sure, he worked for Greenpeace but buddy went for the big bucks and switched to backing the mining industry, nukes and PVC.

Best example of how honest and smart he is is on the video below, back when he was working for Monsanto he claimed Roundup is safe to drink but then freaks out when its there for him to drink.
https://youtu.be/ovKw6YjqSfM

Fucking comedy gold.
 

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Regina paying climate crisis skeptic $10K to speak at 'sustainability' conference

U of R scientist 'dismayed' by city's decision to have Patrick Moore speak at conference

CBC News·Posted: Feb 01, 2020 10:30 AM CT | Last Updated: February 1

A former Greenpeace employee who has spoken out in opposition to environmental science has the top billing at the City of Regina's upcoming conference on future sustainability.

The Reimagine Conference 2020: Roadmap to Sustainable Cities will run May 20-21 with keynote speaker Patrick Moore kicking off the event Wednesday morning.

Moore was one of the early figures in the Greenpeace movement, serving as Canadian president for nine years and as a director of Greenpeace International for six before parting ways with the organization in the mid-1980s.

He is now criticized by environmental groups — including Greenpeace — or his views, particularly questioning the link between carbon emissions and climate change.

In March 2019, Moore was interviewed on Fox and Friend and said, "the whole climate crisis is not only fake news, it's fake science." Moore's Twitter bio says "CelebrateCO2!"

Some environmental advocates and city residents spoke out on Twitter soon after Moore's appearance was announced.

Simon [email protected]_enoch

Why is @CityofRegina and @MayorFougere inviting a known climate change denier to keynote its Renewable Cities conference? Talk about bad faith. https://www.desmogblog.com/patrick-moore

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Does the city know he’s anti-science? this is really embarrassing.

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Moore undermines city's sustainability agenda: scientist

Britt Hall, a biology professor at the University of Regina, said she's "dismayed" the city picked Moore to speak at the conference.

She said it's a decision that goes against the city's stated agenda that sustainability and climate change are important issues.

"It just makes me feel like, again, the politicians in this city and Saskatchewan just don't get it," she said. "They just don't understand that climate change is an important thing to take seriously."

The city said Moore will be paid $10,000, plus expenses, to speak at the conference, double what the next-highest speaker is receiving.

Science is a fact-driven situation ... you either accept it or you don't.- Britt Hall, University of Regina biology professor

"One of the things that we're aware of is that he would probably create some interest ... and he has — you're here today," said Mike O'Donnell, a city councillor who helped pick the speakers for the event. "Two, he has an interesting background."

Guests will be required to pay $300 to attend the event, according to its website. O'Donnell said that will help the city recover the costs for the event.

Moore told CBC Saskatchewan he's not a climate change denier — "I know that the climate changes" — but said "alarmists" are trying to force a link between carbon dioxide, extreme weather events and increasing temperatures.

"I'm going to give a pretty complete presentation of the long history of climate on this Earth and then I'm going to talk about energy choices because the biggest expense of this, basically, climate emergency hoax ... is not the climate research," Moore said.

"The biggest expense is basically revamping our entire energy system with much more expensive, less efficient technology than we have at the present time."

Hall said the city should "talk the talk" and "walk the walk" if it's going to take sustainability seriously.

"I do not agree that when we are talking about science we have to give a voice to those that don't accept the science," she said. "Science is a fact-driven situation ... you either accept it or you don't. And if you are a scientist there is a very very, very good chance you will accept the data showing that humans cause climate change."

With files from Alex Soloducha and Bryan Eneas.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/climate-skeptic-speak-at-sustainability-conference-regina-1.5448458
$10,000 ????
You are worried about $10K spent to try and bring some sanity into the climate change debate?
Perhaps you may consider questioning the Billions of $ which have been spent on the propaganda effort to support anthropogenic global warming and only anthropogenic global warming
And then ask yourself. Are we getting the whole picture here ?

Then perhaps you might consider applying for a grant to investigate natural variation in climate. A most worthwhile endeavor if we truly want to understand how the climate is changing.
You will not get a dime and you would be ostracized in the workplace
"We have a consensus !!!!", gee that's surprising

The article itself is about efforts to shut down any counter arguments and this happens all the time
Think about that
That is not the path to scientific understanding an extremely complex and important issue
Think about that

We know multiple ice ages occurred, without any intervention by man, so we know for sure, natural variation in climate does exist
Fossil fuel use does not turn nature off
However natural variation is ignored and not incorporated into the models used for policy decisions
Despite the fact the models have consistently predicted far too much warming

How in the world do you expect to successfully "tackle climate change" with this approach.
How do you solve a problem if you do not truly understand what the problem is?

The odd thing about arguments & news media coverage related to climate is that it is often what is not said or mentioned which is critical for evaluation
 

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Sure, he worked for Greenpeace but buddy went for the big bucks and switched to backing the mining industry, nukes and PVC.

Best example of how honest and smart he is is on the video below, back when he was working for Monsanto he claimed Roundup is safe to drink but then freaks out when its there for him to drink.
https://youtu.be/ovKw6YjqSfM

Fucking comedy gold.
I know attacking a scientist's character is what you do best,
Character assassination is something everyone learns in the school play ground

Too bad that Character assassination does not change the facts he illustrates
You lack the understanding of the facts he presents, have no logic or scientific arguments to refute him
He has not falsified data (Michael Mann) or conspired with others to "hide the decline" climategate

The round up video does show he is capable of making regreatable statements & plainly does not look good

Since the only thing (of value ?) you bring to the discussion is character assassination and questioning others motivation why do you not look into the $100 MM Al Gore has pocketed from his climate change crusade?
 

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$10,000 ????
You are worried about $10K spent to try and bring some sanity into the climate change debate?
Perhaps you may consider questioning the Billions of $ which have been spent on the propaganda effort to support anthropogenic global warming and only anthropogenic global warming
And then ask yourself. Are we getting the whole picture here ?

Then perhaps you might consider applying for a grant to investigate natural variation in climate. A most worthwhile endeavor if we truly want to understand how the climate is changing.
You will not get a dime and you would be ostracized in the workplace
"We have a consensus !!!!", gee that's surprising

We know multiple ice ages occurred, without any intervention by man, so we know for sure, natural variation in climate does exist
Fossil fuel use does not turn nature off

The odd thing about arguments & news media coverage related to climate is that it is often what is not said or mentioned which is critical for evaluation
I find it pathetic that you still think more money is spent by climate change scientists than deniers.
In all, 140 foundations funneled $558 million to almost 100 climate denial organizations from 2003 to 2010.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/dark-money-funds-climate-change-denial-effort/

Big oil is the side with the deep pockets here and the side that has spent money on the propaganda you post here.
 

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I find it pathetic that you still think more money is spent by climate change scientists than deniers.
In all, 140 foundations funneled $558 million to almost 100 climate denial organizations from 2003 to 2010.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/dark-money-funds-climate-change-denial-effort/

Big oil is the side with the deep pockets here and the side that has spent money on the propaganda you post here.
Again, the odd thing about arguments & news media coverage related to climate is that it is often what is not said or mentioned which is critical for evaluation
https://www.heritage.org/environment/commentary/follow-the-climate-change-money

” According to a recent report by the U.S. Government Accountability Office, “Federal funding for climate change research, technology, international assistance, and adaptation has increased from $2.4 billion in 1993 to $11.6 billion in 2014, with an additional $26.1 billion for climate change programs and activities provided by the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act in 2009.”
That is the US government only & excludes the billions spent by activist organizations like WWF, the tides foundation & Rockefellers
One can only guess how much the Europeans have poured into this money pit

And Al Gore is $100 MMM richer than before his crusades. Go figure

Thanks for doing half the work to provide half of the story

Find it pathetic do you?
 

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Sure, he worked for Greenpeace but buddy went for the big bucks and switched to backing the mining industry, nukes and PVC.

Best example of how honest and smart he is is on the video below, back when he was working for Monsanto he claimed Roundup is safe to drink but then freaks out when its there for him to drink.
https://youtu.be/ovKw6YjqSfM

Fucking comedy gold.
Goes to show what a stupid moron Moore has turned out to be. Talks the talk, but cannot walk the walk, when he is offered the Glyphosate to consume. There are some very dumb people in this Universe that would blindly do what he said!! Here is one such case of this individual who consumed it and paid the price for it!!

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22835958

This is the kind of Science that the right wingers will pretend is meaningless!!
 

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Again, the odd thing about arguments & news media coverage related to climate is that it is often what is not said or mentioned which is critical for evaluation
https://www.heritage.org/environment/commentary/follow-the-climate-change-money



That is the US government only & excludes the billions spent by activist organizations like WWF, the tides foundation & Rockefellers
One can only guess how much the Europeans have poured into this money pit

And Al Gore is $100 MMM richer than before his crusades. Go figure

Thanks for doing half the work to provide half of the story

Find it pathetic do you?
You're conflating research money with publicity money.
All scientists are legislated not to use their research money on lobbying, whereas the half a billion spent in 7 years alone by oil lobbyists is entirely on propaganda.

Not to mention that your numbers are inflated by including non climate change agencies and work.
tsk, tsk.
 

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You're conflating research money with publicity money.
All scientists are legislated not to use their research money on lobbying, whereas the half a billion spent in 7 years alone by oil lobbyists is entirely on propaganda.

Not to mention that your numbers are inflated by including non climate change agencies and work.
tsk, tsk.
Conflating research money with publicity money ????
Holy smokes, you can not be serious
Al Gore made $100 MM & he is not a researcher
Extension rebellion & the tides foundations pay people in order to increase protest crowd sizes
Lets hope those wakos are not researchers

On the flip side Dr. Willie Soon received $10 to $50 K to support his scientific research (maybe enough to support one research assistant) and he gets brain dead activists interrupting his presentation, yelling and calling him a whore for big oil.

Half a billion vs. what looks like hundreds of Billions????
0.5 % vs 99.5% ??

This is not even close. your position is completely wrong and a flat out lie to keep repeating it
What is wrong with you?

Give it up, the people you think you are fooling are a lot sharper than you

You will say anything and everything without any evidence
Do you not realize you are the poster boy for what is wrong with climate activism?
 

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Conflating research money with publicity money ????
Holy smokes, you can not be serious
Al Gore made $100 MM & he is not a researcher
Who paid Al Gore?
Or did he just make his own money?

Go ahead and prove this is climate change research money, larue.
 

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David Suzuki's environment business wasn't as lucrative
as Al Gore's. He made only $30,000 to $50,000 per
talk. I presume payment was on top of plane ticket
and hotel accommodation. The climate issue could
actually be profitable.
 

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Who paid Al Gore?
Or did he just make his own money?

Go ahead and prove this is climate change research money, larue.
Prove it is not

$100 Billion is a lot of money sloshing around
no way that was spent entirely on research
What is wrong with you?
 

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Prove it is not
Its your claim, I'm not surprised its bullshit and you can't back it up.
Just like everything else you post here.
 

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$10,000 for a kook is too much.
Seriously, watch this video and tell me you think that guy is worth $10k.
https://youtu.be/ovKw6YjqSfM
Hmm a pathological liar, who cant read a grade six chart calls a PHd ecologist who helped launch Greenpeace a "kook."

Watch this video and then judge who is more credible and if $10,000 is a reasonable fee for his presenation?
Given Al Gore was a c student and gets $100,000 . $10,000 for Patrick seems quite reasonable

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFHX526NPbE
 

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Hmm a pathological liar, who cant read a grade six chart calls a PHd ecologist who helped launch Greenpeace a "kook."
Whoops, you fell for his bullshit too!
He was not a founder of Greenpeace.

tsk, tsk

Moore is a lobbyist paid by the Heartland Institute.
Same people who once used to be tobacco lobbyists.

Regina should invite scientists, not lobbyists.
 

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Whoops , you cant read


He is quite clear about his participation in the video link I posted

What is wrong with you?
Like I said, you are a sucker and you fell for his bullshit.
You fall for bullshit every time.

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Patrick Moore was not a co-founder of Greenpeace. He does not represent Greenpeace. He is a paid lobbyist, not an independent source. His statements about
@AOC
& the #GreenNewDeal have nothing to do with our positions.

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