Nike to end sales in Israeli stores

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No, its controlled by Israel's blockade.
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So your conspiracy theory that the Jews control Egypt again?

Israel is fully entitled to control their border and despite Hamas being a hostile government set on destroying them, Israel ships in tonnes of aid every day. The sad part is that once that aid gets in, it is often confiscated by Hamas for their own corruption and violence. For example, Qatar facilitated cash payments to support poor Gazans but Hamas took 60% of the money for themselves.

The biggest evidence of the blame Hamas deserves is simply by comparing the conditions of Palestinians in Gaza to the West Bank. Because the PA is not openly at war with Israel, they don't have the same restrictions.


p.s. You calorie claim is pure bullshit. Israel made sure that Gazan poor had the amounts recommended by the WHO. I know the Hamas millionaires tend to be quite portly but since when should humanitarian aid pay for people to become unhealthily fat?

 

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Israel is fully entitled to control their border

You already admitted that Gaza is not in Israel.
Which means Israel has no right to control Gaza's border and to make deals with the despots of Egypt to control their side of the border.

p.s. You calorie claim is pure bullshit.

Of course its not bullshit.

Document on Calorie Figures in Gaza Blockade Stirs Dispute (Published 2012)

The Israeli military calculated the number of calories Gaza’s residents would need to avoid malnutrition during a blockade imposed on the Palestinian territory from 2007 to mid-2010.

www.nytimes.com

Israel made sure that Gazan poor had the amounts recommended by the WHO

In 2007 after the WHO reported that 10% of the children of Gaza are stunted, Israel kicked them out of Gaza.
In 2017 it was reported that nearly 20% of Gaza's children are stunted.

(PDF) Prevalence and associated factors influencing stunting in children aged 2-5years in the Gaza Strip-Palestine: A cross-sectional study

PDF | Background: Stunting continues to be a major public health problem in developing countries. It is one of the most important risk factors for... | Find, read and cite all the research you need on ResearchGate

www.researchgate.net

Why do you support starving children until they are permanently disfigured?
Why are you defending Israel instead of saying this is wrong?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1386907709937750016

 

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You already admitted that Gaza is not in Israel.
Which means Israel has no right to control Gaza's border and to make deals with the despots of Egypt to control their side of the border.
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And here you tick off another of those anti-semitic indicators by pretending Israel isn't allowed to control their own borders a second one with your claim that they somehow are secretly controlling Egypt.


And it is sad that you care claiming the WHO RDA is really starvation and you are condemning a country that sent food to an enemy state during an active war.

 

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And here you tick off another of those anti-semitic indicators by pretending Israel isn't allowed to control their own borders

So you are still claiming that Gaza is in Israel so Israel has a right to control the borders of Gaza?
Why do you support a policy that has stunted 20% of the children of Gaza?

Didn't you say that targeting civilians is terrorism?
So how can you justify a blockade that has targeted the civilian children of Gaza?

By the way, Israel just declared 6 Palestinian NGO's to be 'terrorists', including Defence for Children International.

Gantz declares six Palestinian rights groups ‘terror organizations’

Israel accuses them of being fronts for the PFLP; Al-Haq, Addameer and other prominent nonprofits deny charges, say Israel trying to silence criticism

www.timesofisrael.com

The same guy who says wants to shoot terrorists.
Are you going to support Israel shooting NGO's now too?

Gantz: If terrorists raise their heads, we'll put them back down

 

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So you are still claiming that Gaza is in Israel

??????

The fact that you keep arguing Israel isn't allowed to control it's own border is just one of those anti-semitic indicators that expose you. Your belief that Egypt is just following Israel's orders is another one.

Sad that in your pathetic zealotry, you claim making sure people get the WHO RDA is targeting civilians.

By the way, Israel just declared 6 Palestinian NGO's to be 'terrorists', including Defence for Children International.
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For some reason they haven't shared the evidence with me but we've already discussed that DCIP has several board members that are PFLP so they are run by terrorists. If PFLP is then using those groups as a cover for acts of terrorism then they deserve to be condemned as terrorists. If not it is still worth discussing that they are run by a designated terrorist entity.

 

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The fact that you keep arguing Israel isn't allowed to control it's own border is just one of those anti-semitic indicators that expose you.

You can't even tell me where the border of Israel lies.
So how can you protect something when you don't know what it is?

Stop claiming Palestinian, Syrian and Lebanese land are part of Israel.
If you want to protect Israel's border you need to say where it is and stick by what the international community agrees to as the border.

And that doesn't include Gaza.

No comment on Israel calling NGO's like Defence for Children International 'terrorists'?

Gantz declares six Palestinian rights groups ‘terror organizations’

Israel accuses them of being fronts for the PFLP; Al-Haq, Addameer and other prominent nonprofits deny charges, say Israel trying to silence criticism

www.timesofisrael.com

I gather that means you agree.

 

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You can't even tell me where the border of Israel lies.
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And your usual excuse when caught in your immoral double-standard.

Stop claiming Palestinian, Syrian and Lebanese land are part of Israel.

Wait. You were just claiming that Gaza is part of Israel and now you're admitting it's not?

p.s. According to the UN, Israel completely evacuated Lebanon (but why would you listen to them unless you think it harms Israel).

 

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And your usual excuse when caught in your immoral double-standard.

There you go saying Israel has a right to defend border but you can't say or won't say where they are.
And somehow in your mind that means its me that has a double standard.

You just don't want to admit that there is no Palestine, only apartheid Israel.

Wait. You were just claiming that Gaza is part of Israel and now you're admitting it's not?

p.s. According to the UN, Israel completely evacuated Lebanon (but why would you listen to them unless you think it harms Israel).

See, there you go again. You want to claim all the land as Israel.
Shebaa Farms as well.

Israel really is the only settler colonial state left that is still trying to take more and more land from other peoples.
Yet somehow you think either Hamas or Defence for Children International are to blame.

Israel announces plan for 1,300 homes across seven West Bank settlements
New projects add to thousands of illegal homes already declared for occupied territory in August

 

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There you go saying Israel has a right to defend border but you can't say or won't say where they are.
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So you can't argue your antisemitic double standard so you need to pretend there isn't a border between Gaza and Israel, just like you can't discuss why conditions for Palestinians in the PA ruled West Bank are much better than in Hamas' Gaza.


And speaking of double standards, you ignore that Israel also approved 1300 Palestinian homes.



p.s. Lebanon might claim Sheba Farms, the UN says Israel withdrew from all Lebanese territory. Why is it the UN is suddenly not good enough for you?

 

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So you can't argue your antisemitic double standard so you need to pretend there isn't a border between Gaza and Israel, just like you can't discuss why conditions for Palestinians in the PA ruled West Bank are much better than in Hamas' Gaza.

HRW, B'tselem, the UN and others have clearly argued that Israeli apartheid occurs in different forms in Gaza, the West Bank, Jerusalem and Israel. Its all apartheid.
And you can't continue to claim that you are defending borders if you can't even tell anyone where they are.
We both know why, because you keep wanting to to colonize and steal more of Palestine.

And speaking of double standards, you ignore that Israel also approved 1300 Palestinian homes.

a) How does that make the 1300 new illegal settlements any less of a war crime that continues to destroy the chances of the two state solution that you say is the only way forward?
b) Why is Israel approving new homes in what you claim is Palestine?

 

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HRW, B'tselem, the UN and others have clearly argued that Israeli apartheid occurs in different forms in Gaza, the West Bank, Jerusalem and Israel. ...

Ah, this magical definition of apartheid that somehow doesn't get affected by Israeli Arabs having the exact same legal rights as Israeli Jews whether in the West Bank or Israel. In fact they actually have more rights because they can live, work, and own land in PA ruled parts of the West Bank while it is a capital offence to sell land to Jews (though Abbas has been nice enough to commute the death sentences to lengthy jail terms). So much for your desire for equal rights.

But not surprised you want to change the topic now that you realize that denying Israel's rights to control their own border is just another of your anti-semitic double standards.

 

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Ah, this magical definition of apartheid that somehow doesn't get affected by Israeli Arabs having the exact same legal rights as Israeli Jews whether in the West Bank or Israel. In fact they actually have more rights because they can live, work, and own land in PA ruled parts of the West Bank while it is a capital offence to sell land to Jews (though Abbas has been nice enough to commute the death sentences to lengthy jail terms). So much for your desire for equal rights.

45% of Israelis say Israel is apartheid.
25% of US Jews say Israel is apartheid.

You lost this battle years ago, now you're only defence is a larue like denial.
You knew it was coming and all you did was argue for more apartheid, more settler colonialism and more war crimes.

But not surprised you want to change the topic now that you realize that denying Israel's rights to control their own border is just another of your anti-semitic double standards.

You still can't even say where these borders you want to defend lie on a map.
That's comedy gold.

 

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45% of Israelis say Israel is apartheid.
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First off, you and your source are full of shit. It's the usual attempt to lie about the results of a survey by stupidly grouping responses.

The actual results for Israelis:
very much fits: 11%
Somewhat fits: 17%
Doesn't really fit: 22%
Not at all: 43%

But of course you want to pretend that people saying "Doesn't really fit" are actually agreeing with you.


And speaking of lost that battle, that same survey says only 6% of Israelis strongly support a One State peace just like only 6% of Palestinians prefer that solution. Thankfully we have your Victorian elitism claiming to support rights while completely rejecting that the people in question hate what you want to impose.

 

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You still can't even say where these borders you want to defend lie on a map.
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That's as dumb as Jonny claiming that CO2 can't affect climate. Not my fault you can't figure out where Gaza's borders are.

And in your quest for human rights, I'm sure you're going to claim Israel is responsible for Hamas sentencing another 6 people to death sentences which are usually done in public.

 

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First off, you and your source are full of shit. It's the usual attempt to lie about the results of a survey by stupidly grouping responses.

The actual results for Israelis:
very much fits: 11%
Somewhat fits: 17%
Doesn't really fit: 22%
Not at all: 43%

You're lying again.
Here is the quote from the source I supplied.
Of course, since they are an NGO you'll likely say they are also 'terrorists' even if they are Israeli.

The poll found that 45% of the overall river-to-the-sea population say that the definition of “apartheid” proposed in the survey question is fitting or very fitting as a description of the Israeli regime. A strong majority among Palestinian respondents believe that the apartheid definition fits the Israeli regime (57% “strongly” and 18% “somewhat” – three-quarters in total) and a mirror image among Jews reject it (50% say it doesn’t fit at all and 25% doesn’t really fit – three-quarters in total).

You really should stop lying and making up numbers.
Israel is apartheid, that's what the Israeli people say.

 

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You're lying again.
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Sorry but you should try following your link and looking at the actual data. They have the XLS file available for download.

No surprise you want to manipulate reality to fit your agenda though.

 

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Sorry but you should try following your link and looking at the actual data. They have the XLS file available for download.

No surprise you want to manipulate reality to fit your agenda though.

Ah, I see, so in your colonial and very racist mind you can't count the views of Palestinians.
Typical.

This is still the finding, as they noted in their headline.

The poll found that 45% of the overall river-to-the-sea population say that the definition of “apartheid” proposed in the survey question is fitting or very fitting as a description of the Israeli regime. A strong majority among Palestinian respondents believe that the apartheid definition fits the Israeli regime (57% “strongly” and 18% “somewhat” – three-quarters in total) and a mirror image among Jews reject it (50% say it doesn’t fit at all and 25% doesn’t really fit – three-quarters in total).

Now, if there were a state of Palestine you could argue the findings are wrong, but since there is no Palestine and only the 'river to sea' area under military control by Israel, this is the correct number.
45% say Israel is apartheid.

 

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Ah, I see, so in your colonial and very racist mind you can't count the views of Palestinians.
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Thanks for admitting that trying to force the Palestinians into a One State peace against their will is colonial and racist.

And sorry but this is one of your self-owns. You claimed 45% of Israelis think Israel is apartheid and then make up asinine claims when it turns out your headline is ridiculous political spin.



But no surprise you want to rely on a heavily biased statement rather than actually looking at the data, just like when you tried to deny that only 6% of Palestinians prefer a One State peace, and ignore that 50% of Palestinians support "attacks on Israeli civilians inside Israel".

 

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BTW. Nike and Ben&Jerries are still available in Israel.

 

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Thanks for admitting that trying to force the Palestinians into a One State peace against their will is colonial and racist.

Israel is colonial and racist.
Its apartheid.

45% of the people living under Israeli rule say Israel is apartheid.

That is the truth you can't deny.

The poll found that 45% of the overall river-to-the-sea population say that the definition of “apartheid” proposed in the survey question is fitting or very fitting as a description of the Israeli regime. A strong majority among Palestinian respondents believe that the apartheid definition fits the Israeli regime (57% “strongly” and 18% “somewhat” – three-quarters in total) and a mirror image among Jews reject it (50% say it doesn’t fit at all and 25% doesn’t really fit – three-quarters in total).