Ottawa family physician speaks out as more and more provinces drop masking requirements
Lifting mask mandates 'a slap in the face' to responsible Canadians, says doctor
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They are just starting to realize their ignorant ideology is a slap to their own face and now are projecting it and blaming it on others. Typical toxic mindset.
The issue here is very few scientists agree with dropping mask mandates at this time. We are still seeing large amounts of the virus in waste water, which could mean there are thousands of cases right now. And, if things go horribly wrong in a month of so, will Ontario re-impose masks again, or have another lockdown? I think we can all see that the end is hopefully near...but rushing things could be disastrous. You might be done with COVID, but it doesn't mean COVID is done with you....
No. This is the new reality and they know it. Covid is here to stay and will keep mutating and is NOT going away probably ever. Sometimes it will be worse and sometimes it will be mild. You can’t just keep indefinitely shutting down and imprisoning people will bullshit mandates that do nothing. They are starting to finally see the damage they have done to the people, business, livelihoods, economy, mental health etc. you push any further and the damage becomes irreversible. Not everyone can afford this like the majority of terbs posters who are well off and have tons of money to throw on SPs and post drivel all day long and pretend they are experts in everything discussed.
The fact we aren't using waste water measurements more is just idiocy.
It's one of the few measures that isn't a lagging indicator. It avoids all the self reporting issues and general problems of people wanting to pretend nothing is happening. If the infrastructure is built out there is a good chance it can act as a leading indicator for flu as well. It can be reasonably targeted to specific communities, allowing for more targeting interventions.
It's being criminally underused.
We do use it....just not super effectively. I saw last week they were saying the waste after could show there are 10-15,000 active cases in Ontario. That's potentially massive spread...
I never claim to be an expert. But, I do know how a lot of things work. Dropping the mask mandate will & should happen. But, is now the time? A lot of experts say they're doing it without a lot of data to back things up. Waste water shows there could be thousands of active cases across the province. Now, we're getting to the warm season, and we have a lot of vaccinated people. But I think it'll be telling after this week where kids and families are going to be getting together for March break. If we don't have a major surge in cases, then I'll feel more confident. As they stop dropping masks, we'll see if there is another surge in cases.
Believe, me, I understand and feel bad for those who are caught up in shit over the virus. I feel the government should support them as much as possible. But just dropping all the safety measures without data is just politics. We might be lucky and the timing is actually right....or we'll have a Omicron type surge that threatens to overwhelm hospitals again. A gradual approach would probably be safer for everyone, including the economy.
Is now the time? Lol, how many more years man? Get a grip and wake up. Why haven't you examined the details since the start? There will always be variants of most things in life, not just a virus. You can hide, we will live.
The problem is that there is a loud and politically active group that is against acknowledging it is a problem at all. Instead of treating it like the flu, where it is actively monitored and there are whole systems in place to keep it from getting out of hand, they want to prevent any acknowledgement of COVID-19 as a serious disease out of some weird investment in it as a political identity.
I can honestly say, I am looking forward to dropping my mask at some point in the (hopefully) near future. I know people who are very careful and still caught the disease. We are still learning about how it affects the body, the brain and all the other organs. There are people who are still struggling with symptoms 14 months after they were first infected. There are people who got ED or kidney issues. Lord knows where it ends. The point is, I'd rather be super safe than running around helter skelter and throwing caution to the wind. I mean, nobody has a real number of how many people actually have COVID right now. It could be a thousand people, or 20X that. But we can't get a PCR test now, and the rapid tests are nowhere as accurate. If people are still getting ill and suffering permanent damage, we could be paying for this disease for generations.
Basically what I'm saying is this: We are close (I hope) to when we will literally have the disease under control. It could be right now, though I think that's waaaaaay to optimistic. I'm hoping that after the March Break and a few weeks afterwards, we don't see a surge. The bottom line is wearing a good mask is not that big a deal. If used properly it protects the wearer and everyone near them. I think the worst case scenario is dropping masks too soon, then having to go through another lockdown.
The next thing that the Ontario Science Fiction Table is right about will be the first.
Yet when he was asked if he would still wear mask, he stated he would still wear one for a while.
So.....I'm sure you have started to hear about the COVID sub variant hitting China right now. They're calling it "stealth omicron," and it apparently spreads easier and faster than omicron did. Now, we don't know how it will impact people. Apparently there are few deaths related to this, but who knows.
I guess the question is, will there be another lockdown and mask mandate...or will Ford just let things ride and see what happens on the other side? And that is a truly scary proposition.
I guess the question is, will there be another lockdown and mask mandate...or will Ford just let things ride and see what happens on the other side? And that is a truly scary proposition.
I think Ontarians are mostly pro-precautions and there's an election coming up. He needs to ignore the loud fringe.
We are never seeing a mandate again in either Canada or the US is my guess.
It just won't happen.
It will be your fault if you die of COVID and the numbers overall won't be reported unless they become impossible to ignore.
Whether any of the support structure for COVID stays in place is also in question.
Like I have said repeatedly, we need to treat it at least as seriously as we do influenza and I don't think that will happen.
While personally on TTC and some other places I will continue to either wear or keep one handy I think Its time to let the vaccine and herd immunity play out.
The other damage tolls to mental health, community cohesion, the economy are greater at this point.
The other damage tolls to mental health, community cohesion, the economy are greater at this point.
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