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Kanye anounces his presidential candidacy for 2024 and asks Trump to be his VP

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Ye’s announcement of a second run for the White House was made with a video of his campaign logo to social media captioned “Ye24”. In it, he claimed to have asked Donald Trump to be his running mate, a suggestion that had “most perturbed” the former president.

“The thing that Trump was most perturbed about [is] me asking him to be my vice-president,” Kanye said in a video posted on his recently unlocked Twitter account. “I think that was, like, lower on the list of things that caught him off-guard.”

“It was the fact that I walked in with intelligence,” Ye added.

In the “Ye24” Twitter post, the rapper said he’d he advised Trump to “go and get these people that the media tried to cancel”, with flashes of Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski, Roger Stone and InfoWars conspiracist Alex Jones.

Several days ago, Ye was seen in the company of white nationalist Nick Fuentes at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago country club and home. In the subsequent video, titled “Mar-A-Lago Debrief”, Ye said Trump “started basically screaming at me at the table, telling me I’m going to lose. Has that ever worked for anyone in history? I’m like, ‘Wait, hold on Trump, you’re talking to Ye.’”

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Fuentes is well known for virulent antisemitic opinions of his own, and started a white nationalist organization called America First Foundation. The Department of Justice has called him a white supremacist and he has been banned from multiple social media platforms.

In the video Ye sang Fuentes’s praises and called him a “loyalist”.

Ye also recently told the far-right British commentator Milo Yiannopoulos that he was “working on the campaign”, which Yiannopoulos said he took to be a campaign announcement. On Thursday, Ye indicated that he had enlisted Yiannopoulos as his 2024 campaign manager.

Yiannopoulos has a long history of antisemitism, too, including donating $14.88 to a Jewish journalist, a figure that references the so-called “14 Words” white supremacist manifesto and 88, used by neo-Nazis as shorthand for “Heil Hitler” because H is the eighth letter of the alphabet.
 

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Ye’s announcement of a second run for the White House was made with a video of his campaign logo to social media captioned “Ye24”. In it, he claimed to have asked Donald Trump to be his running mate, a suggestion that had “most perturbed” the former president.

“The thing that Trump was most perturbed about [is] me asking him to be my vice-president,” Kanye said in a video posted on his recently unlocked Twitter account. “I think that was, like, lower on the list of things that caught him off-guard.”

“It was the fact that I walked in with intelligence,” Ye added.

In the “Ye24” Twitter post, the rapper said he’d he advised Trump to “go and get these people that the media tried to cancel”, with flashes of Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski, Roger Stone and InfoWars conspiracist Alex Jones.

Several days ago, Ye was seen in the company of white nationalist Nick Fuentes at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago country club and home. In the subsequent video, titled “Mar-A-Lago Debrief”, Ye said Trump “started basically screaming at me at the table, telling me I’m going to lose. Has that ever worked for anyone in history? I’m like, ‘Wait, hold on Trump, you’re talking to Ye.’”

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Fuentes is well known for virulent antisemitic opinions of his own, and started a white nationalist organization called America First Foundation. The Department of Justice has called him a white supremacist and he has been banned from multiple social media platforms.

In the video Ye sang Fuentes’s praises and called him a “loyalist”.

Ye also recently told the far-right British commentator Milo Yiannopoulos that he was “working on the campaign”, which Yiannopoulos said he took to be a campaign announcement. On Thursday, Ye indicated that he had enlisted Yiannopoulos as his 2024 campaign manager.

Yiannopoulos has a long history of antisemitism, too, including donating $14.88 to a Jewish journalist, a figure that references the so-called “14 Words” white supremacist manifesto and 88, used by neo-Nazis as shorthand for “Heil Hitler” because H is the eighth letter of the alphabet.
The most arrogant black person on earth and the most arrogant white/orangy person on earth are friends well kind of. Gotta love the GOPee. Throw in a kkk leader and you have a party.
 

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Is kayne a BINO ? I sarcastically mentioned trump/kayne 2024 a few weeks ago. Fact is stranger than fiction in America
 

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Unfortunately foe the GOPee Kayne might be the best they have - he's certainly not the dumbest or most despicable with people like Trump, Marge Greene and hershel. The GOPee will spend huge on kayne thinking that he will take a majority of the black vote away from Biden.
 

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The problem is them ore candidates the more it plays into the stable genius favour. he has a solid 35 +- %. No one else does. That is how he bevame the nominee in 2016.
And I don't think they changed the way the GOP primary awards delegates, either.
Trump's strategy in 2016 is much harder to pull off under the Democratic primary system, because of the proportional delegates.
 

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And I don't think they changed the way the GOP primary awards delegates, either.
Trump's strategy in 2016 is much harder to pull off under the Democratic primary system, because of the proportional delegates.
How do the primaries work ? Do the people within the party vote ?
 

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How do the primaries work ? Do the people within the party vote ?
Yes and no.
The US system is kind of screwy.

The Delegates to the Party Convention vote.
BUT both parties long ago decided that they would have delegates assigned by winning primaries or caucuses - so most of the delegates aren't allowed to vote for who they want, they have to vote for who they are assigned to. (Unless no one gets a majority, then they sometimes can vote for someone else in later rounds. They can also be "released" by someone who dropped out, but what happens there isn't always clear - I think officially they don't have to vote for who the candidate they were chosen to support tells them to.)
Some get to vote for whoever, no matter what the actual people voted for in the state. (This varies state to state - some states keep everyone unpledged, some assign a fraction, some don't have any.)

How they get assigned also varies state to state. Some states are winner take all (whoever wins the state gets all the delegates), some are proportional, some are a mix (one set proportional and the rest as a bonus for winning), some are winner of each district gets that delegate and the winner of the overall vote gets some statewide delegates.

It's all very complicated.

The important thing is that the GOP made a push a while ago to get more and more states to do winner take all or winner takes most. That meant that Trump could sneak in a win with 25-35% in those states and get all the delegates. Those states are also clumped pretty early in the process so that a clear winner comes out fairly quickly.

The Democrats have mostly all decided that their states should do things proportionally (or mostly proportionally with a small winner bonus). So if someone keeps winning with 30% in the Democratic primary, the other people are probably still in the running for a while. That was part of what went on with Sanders in the 2016 primary. Clinton beat him pretty consistently, but not really in any kind of blowout fashion. The result was that while it became extremely unlikely he could catch up after a certain point, he wasn't actually eliminated mathematically and could ride it out to the end.

It's also why his "30% strategy" in 2020 wasn't likely to work. The field was likely to narrow down and consolidate in one person against him at some point (that is what normally happens, that it didn't in the GOP in 2016 was a weird edge case). Besides happening fairly early, there was also the simple fact that narrowly winning a few of the early states didn't give Sanders any kind of serious cushion. It is just a lot harder in the Democratic primary to win a bunch of states narrowly early and then just look so dominant that there is no point in trying to catch up. You can do that in the GOP primary.
 
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Further details of how Ye's new racist campaign advisor called Yiannopoulos actually set up this sting on Trumpty Dumpty. Trump on his part was advised not to entertain Ye in the first place. However we all know how Trump acts on impulse::


Yiannopoulos, a former Breitbart editor who was banned from Twitter in 2016 for inciting a racist campaign against the comedian Leslie Jones, told NBC News that he was “the architect” of the plan to have Fuentes travel with Ye in the hopes of slipping him into the dinner with Trump. The intent, according to Yiannopoulos, was for Fuentes to give Trump an unvarnished view of how a portion of his base views his candidacy.

Yiannopoulos persuaded a former Trump 2016 campaign adviser from Florida, Karen Giorno, to give Ye a ride to Mar-a-Lago, which she said led her to become an accidental member of Ye’s dinner party. Yiannopoulos said he also wanted Giorno to brief Ye on Trump and politics and, if she went to the dinner, to lend a sense of political gravitas to the discussion. The fourth member of the party was a man Ye later identified as a parent of a student at his private school in California, Donda Academy. (Donda shut down for the year after Ye’s antisemitic remarks.) Yiannopolous said he was unsure of why the man traveled with them.

Yiannopoulos said Fuentes is serving in an advisory capacity to Ye. Giorno is not an official member of the unofficial Ye campaign team but flew to Los Angeles to meet with them this week.

“I wanted to show Trump the kind of talent that he’s missing out on by allowing his terrible handlers to dictate who he can and can’t hang out with,” Yiannopoulos told NBC News.

“I also wanted to send a message to Trump that he has systematically repeatedly neglected, ignored, abused the people who love him the most, the people who put him in office, and that kind of behavior comes back to bite you in the end,” he added.

And, Yiannopoulos said, he arranged the dinner “just to make Trump’s life miserable” because news of the dinner would leak and Trump would mishandle it.

Fuentes echoed the sentiment: “I hate to say it but the chickens are coming home to roost. You know, this is the frustration with his base and with his true loyalists.”

Trump fumed afterward that Ye had betrayed him by ambushing him. “He tried to f--- me. He’s crazy. He can’t beat me,” Trump said, according to one confidant, who then relayed the conversation to NBC News on the condition of anonymity to discuss private conversations.

“Trump was totally blindsided,” the source said of Fuentes’ presence. “It was a setup.”

Some in Trump’s orbit had cautioned him not to have dinner with Ye, under fire for antisemitism, in the first place, according to two sources who had been briefed on an internal damage assessment the campaign performed after the controversy erupted.

But Trump is known for refusing to heed cautious counsel, guardrails and gatekeepers. So he went ahead with the dinner alone, telling confidants that he thought Ye needed his counsel. One confidant told NBC that Trump acknowledged he wanted the rapper to be seen because “it would be fun for the members” of Mar-a-Lago.

Trump issued three successive statements in as many days on his Truth Social media platform admitting Fuentes was there while disavowing knowledge of his identity prior to and during the dinner.


U.S. Secret Service distanced itself from the incident and said in a statement Monday that, as “a private club,” Mar-a-Lago’s security is in charge of “who may have been allowed access to their facilities.”

On Monday, Ye, Yiannopolous and Fuentes were scheduled to discuss how the dinner came together in a joint appearance on a conservative webcast, but the rapper stormed out after he was challenged about his statements suggesting Jewish people control banks and the news media.

His entourage followed.

Getting into Mar-a-Lago

The pre-Thanksgiving dinner was the third shock to ripple through Trump’s presidential campaign, which was exactly one week old on the night of the dinner.

Hours before the turkey and stuffing were served, the U.S. Supreme Court ordered Trump to turn over his income tax forms to Congress, capping a yearslong fight that followed Trump’s declaration in 2014 that he would “love” to release them if he ran for president. And four days before the Ye dinner, on Nov. 18, the Justice Department appointed a special counsel to examine the Jan. 6, 2021 U.S. Capitol riots and Trump’s possession of highly sensitive government documents at Mar-a-Lago when he was no longer president.

Hours before Ye’s flight arrived in Florida, Yiannopoulos enticed Giorno to pick up the rapper in Miami and take him to Mar-a-Lago, 70 miles away. Giorno said that Yiannopoulos only told her that Ye would be with two people, including someone named “Nick,” but he didn’t give a last name. Yiannopoulos confirmed that he gave limited information to Giorno.

Both say Giorno was not told in advance of the plan to confront Trump.

But some Trump loyalists and advisers in Trump’s inner circle still fault Giorno for not giving the former president or his team a heads-up about Fuentes, whose identity she said she learned on the drive.

“Given Milo’s multiyear, anti-Trump posts since 2020 and his self-proclaimed desire to get a vengeance on President Donald Trump, Karen Giorno cannot in good faith say that she didn’t know what Milo was planning to do … Karen and Milo set Trump up to make him look bad,” said Laura Loomer, a Trump loyalist who ran for Congress in Florida in 2020 and hired Giorno, who then met and hired Yiannopoulos to work for Loomer.

Both had separate clashes with Giorno, in 2022 and 2020, respectively. Yiannopoulos and Giorno dismissed Loomer’s criticisms as the result of their falling out.

Loomer was one of the first high-profile right-wing activists banned from Twitter in 2018, after calling one of the nation’s first Muslim congresswomen, Democrat Ilhan Omar of Minnesota, “anti Jewish” and attacking Islam for abusing women.

Loomer also criticized Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Ga., for being complicit in the alleged Trump setup because she is an ally of Yiannopoulos and had hired him as a summer intern.

A spokesperson for Greene denied the accusation of her involvement but declined to comment further to NBC News; Greene fired back at Loomer on her Telegram social media channel. Greene also has a Fuentes connection: She spoke at his America First Political Action confab in Florida in February but then said she didn’t know who he was.

Giorno said she had been caught in the blast radius of the dinner with Ye and Fuentes but was an unwitting participant. On the night she drove the crew to Mar-a-Lago, she said, she didn’t realize there was going to be a confrontation and she didn’t have time to call or text anyone with a heads-up because Ye’s flight landed about 5 p.m., in the middle of the South Florida metropolis’ rush hour on a rainy day. It took the party three hours to get to Mar-a-Lago, double what it normally takes.

About halfway to Mar-a-Lago, Giorno said in an interview, she realized that Ye, Fuentes and the other man weren’t properly attired.

“All of you are wearing jeans. Did they not tell you about the dress code?” she said she asked.

Ye said he hadn’t been informed and that “I doubt Nick is going to get in anyway.”

“Nick,” she said she asked, “what’s your last name?”

Fuentes gave his last name.

“I’m going to kill Milo,” Giorno said she thought.

Giorno kept driving and said they would probably have trouble getting into Mar-a-Lago because of private security and Secret Service. Giorno said she also realized she had forgotten her driver’s license so she had to use a credit card with her name on it to prove her identity to get in.

Because she had Ye in her car and she is a frequent visitor to the property, having attended Trump’s campaign announcement seven days before, Giorno said, the four of them were able to get in.

Trump met the party in the foyer and warmly greeted everyone but he was puzzled that his old adviser was somehow with Ye, Giorno said. Giorno said she tried to leave Trump with Ye privately.

“Sir, it’s really good to see you again,” she said she told Trump. “My understanding is you’re supposed to have a private meeting with Ye and I’m happy to go to the bar with these two guys while you have dinner.”

But Trump deferred.

“I’ll leave that to Ye. Do you want them to join?” Trump asked, according to Giorno.

“Yes,” Ye replied. “Let’s all eat.”

“Great,” Trump said. “Let’s go out to the patio.”

The inside story of Trump’s explosive dinner with Ye and Nick Fuentes
What was supposed to be a private dinner ended up being a political nightmare.

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